ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV

Miracle shall follow miracle and wonders shall never cease. I agree with your statement. unalienable rights include a woman aborting her fetus. that is sad.

glibona Loc: Nevada

Agree... supreme crt. should not according to separation of powers legislate abortion upon demand.... nor is abortion a constitutional right. .. right to life is protected, not the destruction of it.
this should be a matter upon which the individual states vote.

Lonewolf

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

There is no right to an abortion enshrined in The Constitution.

You also focus on women’s rights to ‘control their own bodies.’ Answer this one question there, Kevyn. Did the woman or did she not voluntarily perform the sex act? If it was not voluntary then it was rape.

If it was voluntary then how was she not controlling her body when she decided to enter into an act that had a good chance of resulting in pregnancy ?

And BTW, for all readers, I am sending this directly to Kevyn so that he can’t avoid seeing it.

greeneyes2

To Lonewolf: I'm female & Catholic, & I totally agree with you. Abortion should never have been brought before the Supreme Court. Abortion is a state's rights issue. Abortion is as old prostitution, but in the past it was very dangerous. Modern medical abortions helped desperate women. There must always be a safe place for limited term abortions, but not all states need to supply such places. Just as we are Red & Blue in this country, there will be abortion states & non abortion states.
Just like legalized gambling or legalized marijuana, or legalized euthanasia.
One note: too many women use abortion as a form of birth control. I'm not judging, but that's not healthy birth control.
Ideally, we should live & work in the state that is the best fit for us.
I would not have an abortion, but I would not take away another women's right to have one, and I would also not take away states rights.

Liberty Tree

No one should have the right to make me pay for abortions. As long as they do I should have a right to vote if they should be allowed.

ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV

An individual's rights trump all. It is her decision. Period.

ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV

maryjane

An ignorant rant like this deserves no response.

maryjane

I am NOT arguing against abortion, but I really would like to hear some better arguments for killing a not yet born baby. WHY is doing this a RIGHT of women? What about responsibilities incurred by rights? Do women not have a responsibility to do the things necessary to avoid pregnancy if they do not wish to be pregnant, to have a baby?? How can a woman choosing to abort a 9 month pregnancy NOT be viewed as a murderer, a monster?? Does what she wants at the moment mean she has the right to whatever action she choses? What about this "right" doing away with all consequences of sexual acts? A woman goes on a date of drinks and dinner, afterwards voluntarily going to the guy's apartment. Now, would commonsense say she knows what is most likely to happen, knows what she has already given semi-agreement to? Okay, they have totally consensual sex. She is not using any type of birth control and does not demand the guy use protection, all in the heat of the sexual moment, of course. Guess what, instead of AIDS or other sexually transmitted disease, the result of the glorious few minutes is pregnancy, which she discovers 6 weeks later. Now, this was a one night stand, so no bonds existing between these two adults except a few minutes of sex, when neither gave a single forethought to the possible results. Do they both bear responsibility for the results? Of course, does the woman bear a greater responsibility for the result BECAUSE the result is ALWAYS GREATER and more far-reaching for her AND she could have prevented ANY unwanted results BUT CHOSE to put a few moments of sexual pleasure over commonsense AND HER RESPONSIBILITY TO LOOK OUT FOR HERSELF????? MY point here is that if abortion is going to be a legal option for women, there simply must be restrictions that require women to take responsibility for themselves, for their own sexual decisions and actions AND the consequences. Abortion should not be a replacement for personal responsibility in the sexual arena and should not be just a way out after poor decisions and behavior no matter what. If women want the abortion option they must change their views and use this option responsibly and sparingly, which requires restrictions on using this option.

maryjane

"Not even a majority of the voters"? Suppose there are 10,000 voters, 5000 males and 5000 females. Let's say 100 males vote FOR abortion on demand and 1000 females vote that way. So you are saying that these 1100 voters should decide and FORCE 3900 other voters to allow something they are totally against with strong views about it. Is that right, fair, logical? The USA has always been a republic that operates democratically, majority rule, with miniority views always having the option of persuasion to change minds to their view. BUT, UNTIL RECENT YEARS WE NEVER ALLOWED THE VIEWS OF ONE PERSON OR A SMALL GROUP TO OVERRIDE THE WISHES OF EVERYONE ELSE.

ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV

I pretty much agree with you. However, until you eliminate a woman's free will, which is not a good idea. She is still in charge of her body. Not anyone else. Either she is free or she is not free to do as she sees fit. Regardless of what anyone else says. What she does may be repulsive but that is not the issue. First we deny her this then we take her life as ours.
This is not a moral issue. That's her problem.

amyinsparta

Does anyone ever think about how many more millions of people would be on this planet if all pregnancies were brought to term? And you know, in the end, it's the man's job to see that a woman doesn't conceive. If that semen doesn't say hello to the egg, then all is well. So lets stop blaming the lady and put the blame where it belongs.

greeneyes2

The truth is that women who cannot afford to raise a child will find a way to abort a pregnancy. Years ago women took a drug called thalidomide to help with pregnancy. It turned out that the drug caused horrible birth defects.
Women had to go to Europe for an abortion if they wanted to end the pregnancy. My point, women will find a way to have an abortion.
There have been cheap, back alley abortions that were dangerous. We are not living in the Middle Ages, but there is no getting away from the fact that abortion is murder. The fetus is not given the right to speak for her/himself and say, "I want to live." The states should decide the abortion issue. We can name several states easily that will allow abortions. And orher more evangelical states will vote for No abortions.
But as a country we can find that middle ground. At the end of the day the woman will answer to her God.
I feel bad for a man involved with a woman who aborts his child against his will. Does a man have no say in this murder of his child?
I wonder how many men on this site have heard of this twist on abortion?

badbob85037

Wow! That is one twisted mind you have there. Do the world a favor and leave it to science.