stan3186

That may be so that it can withstand my rants, but I don't think it can withstand the rest of the Obama idiot term. He is moving with great speed to try and wrap up the job of destroying this country. I'm sure you welcome the new socialist republic. You traitor.

I guess your leaving was just another Libertard lie,just like your liar and chief. Can't believe anything these morons spew.

rickdri

So how about my question? Are you not able to answer it? Not likely! You will make up excuses for Obama no matter what he does. You call me a troll yet, you are the one that can not think for yourself. You listen to everything the democrats churn out and believe it no matter if it is true or not!

Don DeHoff

Will you people stop this game of one-on-one, off-subject "mental masturbation" and let the rest of us get back to the real issues at hand? As some old sage said, "you are stepping on ants while lions are leaping through the windows"! Go get you "kicks" on Facebook or some other place that allows such drivel!

Btfkr Loc: just outside the Mile High City

e or r there is a term for that, but no matter :oops: :P :P . I do believe you have it correct as well. Why read?? When you right you right! Why muck it all up with facts?? :P

Btfkr Loc: just outside the Mile High City

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Btfkr Loc: just outside the Mile High City

Once capitalism is regulated it is no longer "true capitalism". That is why I say the deregulation of capitalism, thus moving more toward "true capitalism" (or if you will Laissez Faire Capitalism) is one of the causes of why we are in the mess. Yes the repeal of Glass-Stegall is a prime example. Greed is a human trait as well as one of the 7 deadly sins. We can never expect total honesty. That is why capitalism and business must be regulated. I believe the "business has been over regulated" is just a big right wing cover up for greed. If there are specific examples or over regulation, I'd be happy to listen. It may still be possible to rebuild the country without a total down fall, but of that I'm not certain. It will be a huge fall and I don't think medic-alert makes anything big enough to help.

K. I'll post this one more time. No body seems to like to face things or read things.

http://reclaimdemocracy.org/corporate-accountability-history-corporations-us/

Homestead

Your link starts out pretty good, gives some good historical facts and then shifts to corporation bashing.
That's not to say, that the grievances they sight are not legitimate, they are.

But, the article gives the impression that without the corporations there wouldn't be any evil or that evil wouldn't be able to take hold without the existence of corporations. This is nonsense.

"But the men running corporations pressed on. Contests over charter were battles to control labor, resources, community rights, and political sovereignty."

The King wasn't a corporation, the institution of slavery was not a corporation, Hitler wasn't a corporation, neither was Mussolini, The Emperor of Japan, Lennon or Stalin and they managed to:

"converted the nation’s resources and treasures into private fortunes, creating factory systems and company towns. Political power began flowing to absentee owners, rather than community-rooted enterprises."

and they did it just fine without corporations.

Our fore fathers were forward thinkers, they understood that, a pound of cure was worth an once of prevention and that a stitch in time saved nine.

That's why they created a government that dispersed political power over several branches which forced people to work out problems rather than force solutions onto the public.

So, it's not a surprise to see that they would follow the same logic in the business structure of the corporation.

But, try to remember that a crook is a crook. The corporation is just one tool a crook uses to take what he wants. Even if you make all the changes you want in the business structure of the corporation, whatever you create in it's place, will be run by crooks in a dishonest society.

That's not going to have a good outcome.

John Adams said that only a virtuous society can govern itself.
In those days dishonesty was unacceptable.
Now-a-days it's celebrated.

Don't lose track of the forest, because, your focussed on the trees.

Btfkr Loc: just outside the Mile High City

Just a suggestion for your own good Don...maybe you better lower your expectations and just enjoy th ride. I know, took me a while to get it too. Very occasionally there might be a decent conversation, but only VERY.

rickdri

So I ruffled your feathers? Benghazi is not a real issue? All of the lies told by Obama are not real issues? Congressional grid lock is not a real issue? Partisan politics by both parties is not a real issue? Both parties taking America into oblivion. Is it so much to ask why they are doing so? How about why we have a president that continues to lie about just about everything? Congressional representative too? Is not a president's lying a reason to not like him? I don't hate anyone, yet we are on topic! This is about people hating Obama. So please tell me where I went off topic! I merely asked why he lied! I merely meant that if you call someone a name you should make sure of your own belief system first. So you consider my asking this person why we have a president that lied even when the evidence pointed out the truth to be drivel? When a person gets away with a small misdeed, it gives him confidence to move on to larger misdeeds. That is my point! You can consider anything you want to be drivel. I have no problem with that!

moose

Yeah,get going Glacon go put your lies on some other site.Nobody pays attention to them here. Go tell it to cnn,nbc,abc,cbs,msnbc all losers and way down in the rating's.

moose

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jimahrens Loc: California

She is a plant. It is not worth any reasonable persons time to try and talk to her. She just likes to get your dander up.

moose

Capitalism has worked for over 200 yrS.Obama is trying to knock it down with SOCIALISM,which never works.God liberals only have a one way agenda's.You bleeding heart liberals make me sick.

Armageddun Loc: The show me state

What was unreasonable about Homesteads opinion? I think it makes good sense.

D.L. Moody once said, "If the railroad gives an uneducated man a job he may steal a few pieces of coal to warm his family. If the railroad hires an educated man, he often tries to steal the whole railroad."

Btfkr Loc: just outside the Mile High City

I'm impressed! Seriously, Thanks for reading and the feed back. I personally didn't take it as "corporate bashing" rather, even as you quoted from it, "MEN RUNNING corporations pressed on". Is not a man (board of directors, stock holders etc) "hiding behind" a corporate shelter today the same as, in your examples, Hitler, Mussolini, Lennon or Stalin? I think you make the point.
Our Fore Fathers WERE forward thinking. I think the writers of this are seeing BOTH the forest AND the trees, as were our for fathers. You make the point again in that a "crook is a crook". So what do we do, let the crooks get "to big to fail"? That in my mind is Leissez faire Capitalism. We will NEVER live in a totally honest world, especially where $$ is involved. Isn't that what laws and regulations are for, to limit the damage of dishonest people? You make the point again, "an ounce of prevention (ie some regulation on business, or what it boils down to is the, your word, crooks running business) is worth a pound of cure.

I personally would not mind going BACK to what our For Fathers intended.