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Oct 13, 2018 20:45:23   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
lindajoy wrote:
YES Sir!!!!!


Nice. Very nice. I'm sure you will agree he well deserved it!

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Oct 13, 2018 21:10:12   #
Mikeyavelli
 
lindajoy wrote:
How about French??
Je te trouve très bien......


Mais oui, je vais tres bien.
Ooh la la. C'est si bon!
Chevrolet Coupe.
Encore une fois!

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Oct 13, 2018 21:31:18   #
emarine
 
lindajoy wrote:
Mind backing your comment with substance?? What’s fake about the article, did Trump not achieve the things recorded??




Want some truth LJ?...Trump lowered unemployment 1 point in 2 years... you can now kiss his ring...

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Oct 13, 2018 21:55:57   #
debeda
 
Seth wrote:
Ask all those Americans who are now working again, ask small business owners who are now able to HIRE more people, ask non-rich families that now get to keep more of their hard earned money, ask rich people who can no longer deduct any local income tax above 10k from their federal returns if the tax cuts only benefit "the rich."

This leftist propaganda can be repeated like a mantra to try and perpetuate a lie, but anyone who dwells in reality knows to the truth.


BRAVO!!! TRUTH!!!

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Oct 13, 2018 22:43:22   #
steve metter
 
Seth wrote:
Vietnam? Oh, THAT Vietnam, the war begun by Democrats, accelerated by Democrats, and featuring a DRAFT created by Democrats.

Yet it's these same Democrats who are the first people to throw Vietnam vets under a bus and spit on them.

It may also be interesting to note that while the Democrats got us embroiled in S.E. Asia for all those years and through all those crippled and dead young Americans, they are the same folks who encouraged draftees to flee to Canada and the same people who, once they got our troops mired in that friggin' nightmare, did everything they could to criticize those brave young men's every move and accuse them of being "immorai" for doing whatever they had to do to try and get his home in one piece.

All in all, not the Dems' finest hour, so whenever I hear a Democrat use Vietnam in any context other than one of self loathing or admission that their party was single handedly responsible for every last American death over there, I am reminded of just how deep hypocrisy is on the left side of the aisle.
Vietnam? Oh, THAT Vietnam, the war begun by Democr... (show quote)


Deep state 101

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Oct 13, 2018 22:52:19   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
You are correct. Much harder to lower unemployment from a low number. Just like the market. Under Obama it could go nowhere but up. Under Trump the market is new highs. Also under Obama we had an influx of part time jobs. You can now kiss my butt.
emarine wrote:
Want some truth LJ?...Trump lowered unemployment 1 point in 2 years... you can now kiss his ring...

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Oct 13, 2018 22:56:58   #
debeda
 
JFlorio wrote:
You are correct. Much harder to lower unemployment from a low number. Just like the market. Under Obama it could go nowhere but up. Under Trump the market is new highs. Also under Obama we had an influx of part time jobs. You can now kiss my butt.



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Oct 13, 2018 23:31:59   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
padremike wrote:
Nice. Very nice. I'm sure you will agree he well deserved it!


I absolutely do mike!! Very much so!!!

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Oct 13, 2018 23:51:28   #
Comment Loc: California
 
old marine wrote:
The only balance budget in years was when the Republican party controlled both chambers and past the "Balanced Budget Mandste" that FORCED President Clinton to operate on a balanced budget.

As soon as the Democrats got control of things the FIRST THING THEY DID WAS DO AWAY WITH THE BALANCED BUDGET MANDATE. Since then spending was out of control.

When Obama came into office the government owed just a little over 1 and half trillion dollars.

When he left office 8 years later 14 trillion dollars was "borrowed" from the Social Security trust fund and replaced by worthless IOU bonds.
The government owed in excess of 20 trillion dollars.

The budget presented to President Trump was a Democrat budget that the President was going to veto. His chief advisors convinced him to approve it because it would help our military that had been neglected for 8 years and was barely at 1940 strength.

Obama was the worst president in the history of America

The truth hurts but it will set you free.
The only balance budget in years was when the Repu... (show quote)


I want to just bore into your story a little deeper. Newt Gingrich was speaker and presented to the people a CONTRACT WITH AMERICA. The subject of the contract was :balance the budget. Bill Clinton had no choice but to sign it, or his adm wuld have gone to hell.

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Oct 14, 2018 00:27:33   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
JFlorio wrote:
You are correct. Much harder to lower unemployment from a low number. Just like the market. Under Obama it could go nowhere but up. Under Trump the market is new highs. Also under Obama we had an influx of part time jobs. You can now kiss my butt.


Lololol I was NOT expecting this one, J... lololll excellent!!! You do have a way with words...

The lowest unemployment in 17 years speaks for itself.. Bo got fast food part time jobs times 2 that was counted as two people back to work .. Another manipulation of those numbers but heyyyy whats the problem with that, it was after all BOs to claim..

Just like all the jobs now created or the GDP growth or the stock market climb for two years now..or how about the economy, housing, car sales, Manufactured businesses etc.. Ohhh damn I forgot Bo got fair trade in the New NAFTA deal no longer called that btw... what about our military striped under Bo and restrengthened with Trump..

Enormous comparisons which is why the classless Bo finds the need to whine about even though he could never bring good numbers in while in our oval office, he now has them 2 years later....lolololl Holy hell and lololololol!!

Itsss snowinggggg here~~ High tomorrow of 25 and yessssss, heading out for some skiing in the afternoon..Yippppppppieeeee...

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Oct 14, 2018 02:37:24   #
PeterS
 
Seth wrote:
Ask all those Americans who are now working again, ask small business owners who are now able to HIRE more people, ask non-rich families that now get to keep more of their hard earned money, ask rich people who can no longer deduct any local income tax above 10k from their federal returns if the tax cuts only benefit "the rich."

This leftist propaganda can be repeated like a mantra to try and perpetuate a lie, but anyone who dwells in reality knows to the truth.

The tax cut for the middle you are boasting about won't even buy a latte at Starbucks on the way to work each day. The deficit for Trump's first budget was 1.2 Trillion dollars and this is what every conservative will tell you are great economic times only topped by those during the wonderful Ronald R Reagan. So what gives? How can things be so wonderful and Trump turned in the fourth worst yearly deficit in history? At least under Obama the economy sucked but he could argue that the deficit was growing lower each year. What's Trump's excuse?

As for all those people who suddenly found employment the slope lie for unemployment decreased under Trump meaning that the rate at which people were finding jobs was slowing down not speeding up as you imply. What that means is that no matter who became president we would have soon reached full employment and whoever was in power would be boasting about what economic geniuses they were...

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Oct 14, 2018 03:12:45   #
Seth
 
PeterS wrote:
The tax cut for the middle you are boasting about won't even buy a latte at Starbucks on the way to work each day. The deficit for Trump's first budget was 1.2 Trillion dollars and this is what every conservative will tell you are great economic times only topped by those during the wonderful Ronald R Reagan. So what gives? How can things be so wonderful and Trump turned in the fourth worst yearly deficit in history? At least under Obama the economy sucked but he could argue that the deficit was growing lower each year. What's Trump's excuse?

As for all those people who suddenly found employment the slope lie for unemployment decreased under Trump meaning that the rate at which people were finding jobs was slowing down not speeding up as you imply. What that means is that no matter who became president we would have soon reached full employment and whoever was in power would be boasting about what economic geniuses they were...
The tax cut for the middle you are boasting about ... (show quote)


More "mathematical" reasoning that doesn't take into account the 180° difference between the business environment under Obama (job killing regulations, the highest corporate taxes on the planet) and the business environment under Trump (elimination of job killing regulations, corporate taxes nearly halved, taxes significantly reduced on repatriation of U.S. firms' reinvestable assets from offshore profits), just like the 'conclusions' based on graphs and charts that for some reason don't seem to agree with actual events.

Reminiscent of what a Paul Krugman version of Economics 101 would look like.

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Oct 14, 2018 03:38:35   #
PeterS
 
Seth wrote:
More "mathematical" reasoning that doesn't take into account the 180° difference between the business environment under Obama (job killing regulations, the highest corporate taxes on the planet) and the business environment under Trump (elimination of job killing regulations, corporate taxes nearly halved, taxes significantly reduced on repatriation of U.S. firms' reinvestable assets from offshore profits), just like the 'conclusions' based on graphs and charts that for some reason don't seem to agree with actual events.

Reminiscent of what a Paul Krugman version of Economics 101 would look like.
More "mathematical" reasoning that doesn... (show quote)

Do you have any words that don't originate in the Republican playbook? The first job-killing regulation that Trump did away with was the ban on dumping coal wastes into our public waterways. How about a nice cup of Mercury or Lead? The other job-killing regulations had to do with air quality, the environment, and safety. And of course, if we strip our cars of all their safety features, pollution controls, and gas requirements we can make them much, much cheaper too. The question is would you rather get in a wreck in a 57 Chevy or a 2018 Chevy. It's really up to you...

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Oct 14, 2018 04:06:13   #
Seth
 
If government feels that strongly about imposing regulations that champion the environment, then government should feel just as strongly about championing the cause of it's citizens' well being. Before regulating citizens out of their livelihoods, it should ascertain that these suddenly, no-fault-of-their-own unemployed citizens have other private sector employment to turn to, which certainly wasn't a concern of Obama's as he wielded his fabled pen.

His only concern was pleasing a lot of so-called "progressives" whose lives and livelihoods were not effected in the slightest by his disastrous regulations.

My grandmother used to say, "never spill out the dirty water until you have more clean water."

To Barry Otera and his "elite" leftist following, middle class Americans were mere throwaway expendables.

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Oct 14, 2018 07:19:18   #
PeterS
 
Seth wrote:
If government feels that strongly about imposing regulations that champion the environment, then government should feel just as strongly about championing the cause of it's citizens' well being. Before regulating citizens out of their livelihoods, it should ascertain that these suddenly, no-fault-of-their-own unemployed citizens have other private sector employment to turn to, which certainly wasn't a concern of Obama's as he wielded his fabled pen.

His only concern was pleasing a lot of so-called "progressives" whose lives and livelihoods were not effected in the slightest by his disastrous regulations.

My grandmother used to say, "never spill out the dirty water until you have more clean water."

To Barry Otera and his "elite" leftist following, middle class Americans were mere throwaway expendables.
If government feels that strongly about imposing r... (show quote)

When Obama left office the unemployment number was 4.7 and Trump has lowered it one percentage point more. Your argument is that human life is less important than enough jobs to lower unemployment one percentage point. Are we better off with an increase in COPD and emphysema plus an increase in heavy metal poisoning primarily in our children?

Those disastrous regulations you are crying about didn't cause the recession nor the loss of 9 million jobs and if they slowed the growth of the economy it would have been only slightly. When you look at what Trump has done he's dumped two trillion dollars directly into the economy via new debt plus cut taxes and eliminated a ton of regulations and what are the gains... GDP of 2.5 in 2017 and 3.0 so far in 2018 and a drop in unemployment of 1 point. I know you cons are dancing a jig but for that much cash that's no much of a return and it will never come close to repaying the amount of debt created and the costs to future generations.

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