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Trump's tariffs have already cost Ford $1B; now it's planning layoffs
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Oct 12, 2018 12:37:51   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
As an editorial in the Weekly Standard put it:

"Still, the irony is worth noting. The policies of a populist and protectionist administration have created higher prices for American consumers, bigger profits for foreign and multinational corporations, and financial disruptions for some U.S. manufacturers and for American farmers. Remind us again: Who’s putting America first, and who’s in cahoots with the globalists?"

http://www.weeklystandard.com/the-editors/editorial-meet-the-winners-of-the-trade-war

As I said earlier--The trade war good for big multinational corporations.

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Oct 12, 2018 13:23:21   #
PeterS
 
Kevyn wrote:
They just jump up and down shouting “fake news” and live in the land of make believe.

It's fake news unless you are one of the ones getting laid off...then it's all too real.

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Oct 12, 2018 13:24:30   #
PeterS
 
buffalo wrote:
As an editorial in the Weekly Standard put it:

"Still, the irony is worth noting. The policies of a populist and protectionist administration have created higher prices for American consumers, bigger profits for foreign and multinational corporations, and financial disruptions for some U.S. manufacturers and for American farmers. Remind us again: Who’s putting America first, and who’s in cahoots with the globalists?"

http://www.weeklystandard.com/the-editors/editorial-meet-the-winners-of-the-trade-war

As I said earlier--The trade war good for big multinational corporations.
As an editorial in the Weekly Standard put it: br ... (show quote)

No argument from me...

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Oct 12, 2018 13:48:22   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
PeterS wrote:


I see that once again you must not have read the full article. They are now producing fewer cars then GM, per employee. That leads me to believe they have been top heavy for years and are now realizing their problem at this time. That is why they seem to have a monetary loss. They received a bonus during the Obama years. Obama and his lackey's pushed many GM dealers out of the market to help FMC to a greater share of the auto business..

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Oct 12, 2018 15:37:56   #
steve metter
 
PeterS wrote:


Hey, durwood all the car manufacturers are in the same boat , people are not buying, leasing , car prices out of hand, 72 , 84 month financing .when was the last time you saw a ad for lie car prices. Plus trump is playing the FED , SOON OFF PETRO DOLLAR, 71% of vehicle market trucks, SUV'S.

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Oct 12, 2018 19:12:24   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
PeterS wrote:




Hey Peter, I pick carefully which post to argue. Being an expert in the automotive field and a great part of my career with Ford, I find NBC using ford's economic position and applying recent policies offensive. Pulling the wool over readers eyes that wouldn't possibly understand Fords dynamics on the world stage, production efficiencies, inventories, market retraction with questionable market forecast and liquid assets all in choppy waters with recent and coming prime interest rate increases. The authors conclusions are fabricated and deception at best.

Have a great evening Pete

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Oct 12, 2018 19:42:51   #
Lonewolf
 
Sales in China down 43 %

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Oct 12, 2018 21:14:39   #
truthiness
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Hey Peter, I pick carefully which post to argue. Being an expert in the automotive field and a great part of my career with Ford, I find NBC using ford's economic position and applying recent policies offensive. Pulling the wool over readers eyes that wouldn't possibly understand Fords dynamics on the world stage, production efficiencies, inventories, market retraction with questionable market forecast and liquid assets all in choppy waters with recent and coming prime interest rate increases. The authors conclusions are fabricated and deception at best.

Have a great evening Pete
Hey Peter, I pick carefully which post to argue. B... (show quote)


Jack, did Ford over-produce--is that the real problem?

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Oct 12, 2018 21:17:13   #
truthiness
 
Lonewolf wrote:
Sales in China down 43 %

..
And (therefore), the trade deficit rising.

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Oct 12, 2018 21:32:32   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
truthiness wrote:
Jack, did Ford over-produce--is that the real problem?



That's majority. Ford pressures dealers to increase inventory via allocations of faster moving inventory if orders include higher percentage of slower moving among many other incentives including aggressive buying of paper by the FMCC arm.
The inventory saturation or "days supply" catches up with dealers facing increased flooring cost. When flooring cost increase for dealers going from increased spring and summer sales to decreased fall and winter.
Ford projects this but tries to keep factories at higher productivity with new models being released, the real problem magnifies when export inventory swells with domestic. Auto sales have lagged internationally and Ford shares their negative outlook with most every other import and domestic manufacturer.

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Oct 12, 2018 22:05:02   #
kankune Loc: Iowa
 
buffalo wrote:
This is FAKE NEWS, again designed to try and make trumpy and his trade policies look bad and put the blame on falling sales on something other than over priced pieces of shit. Ford has been struggling for years. Back in January 2006 Ford announced restructuring plans that including laying off 30,000 workers and close 14 plants.

Now, it's contract time and all of a sudden Ford is broke...LOL "Many of those layoffs could come from Ford’s European and South American businesses, which are currently costing the automaker billions of dollars annually. Ford Executive Chairman Bill Ford said in May that investors ought to anticipate some “fairly large” changes in those markets as the automaker attempts to cut its losses and improve its financial fitness."

Just recently Ford announced the discontinuation of all car models except the Mustang and Focus due to poor sales numbers.

But the truth doesn't matter to moonbats. They will lie and say anything if they think it will make trumpy look bad. If you want trumpy to look bad, then look at his TAX Cuts and Jobs Act gift to the wealthy and mega-corporations.
This is FAKE NEWS, again designed to try and make ... (show quote)


I'm a Ford person and absolutely love the Ford F-150. But.....Ford or not..there isn't any truck or any 1 dang vehicle that is worth 60,000.00. They need to get a clue!

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Oct 13, 2018 03:48:50   #
PeterS
 
steve metter wrote:
Hey, durwood all the car manufacturers are in the same boat , people are not buying, leasing , car prices out of hand, 72 , 84 month financing .when was the last time you saw a ad for lie car prices. Plus trump is playing the FED , SOON OFF PETRO DOLLAR, 71% of vehicle market trucks, SUV'S.

That only goes to say that we lost the trade war with Asia before we even started it. Germany’s top manufacturing companies – Volkswagen, BMW, Daimler, BASF and Siemens – announced tens of billions of dollars of new investments in China as Chinese Premier Li Keqiang posed for a photo op with German Chancellor Merkel in Berlin.

BMW will expand its joint venture with Brilliance Auto to produce 519,000 vehicles a year. It also set up a joint venture to produce an electric version of the Mini together with Great Wall Auto. And it agreed to buy US$4.7 billion worth of batteries from Chinese producer CATL, which just announced a new plant in southern Germany. Volkswagen earlier this year announced that it would invest US$18 billion in China by 2022 and construct six plants to build electric vehicles. BMW will move some of its SUV production out of its South Carolina plant in response to auto tariffs.

And this is going to China instead of the US because of the brilliance of Trump starting a trade war. And thanks for bringing up the sad state of the Auto industry because of Trump's tariffs. I didn't mean to neglect that...

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Oct 13, 2018 03:50:42   #
PeterS
 
kankune wrote:
I'm a Ford person and absolutely love the Ford F-150. But.....Ford or not..there isn't any truck or any 1 dang vehicle that is worth 60,000.00. They need to get a clue!

Wait a couple years and you can pick up a used one for a steal...

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Oct 13, 2018 06:51:06   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
kankune wrote:
I'm a Ford person and absolutely love the Ford F-150. But.....Ford or not..there isn't any truck or any 1 dang vehicle that is worth 60,000.00. They need to get a clue!


http://www.heritage.org/government-regulation/report/regulation-continues-increase-car-prices

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Oct 13, 2018 14:09:10   #
truthiness
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
http://www.heritage.org/government-regulation/report/regulation-continues-increase-car-prices

Yet we think of the European economies as being restricted by regs and interstate rules, but they thrive as they move into China. Is it really our regs or just our 20th (19th??) century view of economics that keeps us behind? I really don't know. Are European car workers living a substandard life because of unfair wages while shareholders win at their expense? Why do we heavily subsidize some industries (oil) and then pretend it is a "free" market that would let everyone prosper if only we didn't restrict commerce with regulations?
I wish there was an unbiased economist somewhere who could give a picture of what a free market would really look like and what effect it would have on people, culture, and the world. Libertarians tout their heroes Hayek and von Mises but never live by their economic principles--e.g.Rand Paul and Mike Lee are perfect examples. Can anyone honestly believe that there could be a sensible unbiased system in place by reducing regulation as the middle class continues to shrink with capital so unequally distributed? Can that scenario really be blamed on the effect of constricting regs on a fettered capitalism?

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