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Oct 4, 2018 13:54:27   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
jeff smith wrote:
so we have tit for tat . but I think that it was the dems. who put all of the programs into place so people who should not of gotten a loan were given a loan to purchase to much house and run up to many charge cards and when things started getting tight people started walking away from their financial nightmares. them more and more and more until BOOM



The rules and removal of rules for the housing crash were before Obama time. The crash itself was before Obama.

A simple look at the dates of collapse shows the recession can not be his fault.

The slow recovery was in part because of republican obstruction. They even refused to approve ideas which were oringinally GOP when the same thing was part of Obama plan..

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Oct 4, 2018 13:58:59   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
FBI finished early... report is in govt hands...

I would say the early end means Kav will be approved early Friday morning..

Greater woe for our nation and our descendants..

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Oct 4, 2018 14:47:20   #
JoyV
 
permafrost wrote:
as the orange people always do, you are mixing quarterly figures with annual figures..

Now GDP is 4.1 This in a quarterly rate, President Obama had higher rate a number of times.

The highest GDP growth of Obama's presidency was during the third quarter of 2014, when it hit 5.2 percent.

The first reading of real growth domestic product for the fourth quarter of 2017 was published Friday by the government's Bureau of Economic Analysis, and it shows an increase of only 2.6%. For the whole year, the

increase in real GDP is 2.3%. That's better than the 1.5% growth rate in 2016, the last year of Barack Obama's second term, but only a tiny hair better than the average over Obama's full second term.
as the orange people always do, you are mixing qua... (show quote)


Obama had three quarters where the GDP was higher than Trump's current GDP. They were NOT consecutive. And he had 29 quarters where they were lower. He had 5 quarters where the GDP was negative growth. Under Trump, since his 2nd quarter (which was close to a 1% increase from his 1st) the GDP has never dropped below 2.2%.

I purposely did NOT take the lowest quarter of Obama for mu initial comparison. I compared the GDP start and ending of Obama AT THE TIME OF THE ELECTION!!!! Until the election ending of Trump's 2nd term, there is no scientific way to compare their overall increase or decrease in GDP. But so far, Trump's is looking far better!

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Oct 4, 2018 14:48:13   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
The rules and removal of rules for the housing crash were before Obama time. The crash itself was before Obama.

A simple look at the dates of collapse shows the recession can not be his fault.

The slow recovery was in part because of republican obstruction. They even refused to approve ideas which were originally GOP when the same thing was part of Obama plan..


That's partly correct. It was his BS healthcare and foreign policy that lost it for me;; not to mention his leftist swings and promotion of racism. That and his inability to tackle immigration. And then there's . . . .

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Oct 4, 2018 14:49:25   #
JoyV
 
permafrost wrote:
The rules and removal of rules for the housing crash were before Obama time. The crash itself was before Obama.

A simple look at the dates of collapse shows the recession can not be his fault.

The slow recovery was in part because of republican obstruction. They even refused to approve ideas which were oringinally GOP when the same thing was part of Obama plan..


You are correct. But the slowest recovery in history CAN be laid at his door!

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Oct 4, 2018 16:34:59   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
permafrost wrote:
FBI finished early... report is in govt hands...

I would say the early end means Kav will be approved early Friday morning..

Greater woe for our nation and our descendants..


What do you say will be the three greatest woes?

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Oct 4, 2018 16:46:47   #
Fit2BTied Loc: Texas
 
byronglimish wrote:
What do you say will be the three greatest woes?


3. How "woe" the democwats wiw go to twy to tuwn their bwue wave into impeachment heawings for Kavanaugh and Twump.

2. Wistening to aww the conservatives c"woe" about how they won this round against the wiberaws.

1. The eventuaw repeaw of "Woe" vs Wade

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Oct 4, 2018 16:58:46   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
JoyV wrote:
Obama had three quarters where the GDP was higher than Trump's current GDP. They were NOT consecutive. And he had 29 quarters where they were lower. He had 5 quarters where the GDP was negative growth. Under Trump, since his 2nd quarter (which was close to a 1% increase from his 1st) the GDP has never dropped below 2.2%.

I purposely did NOT take the lowest quarter of Obama for mu initial comparison. I compared the GDP start and ending of Obama AT THE TIME OF THE ELECTION!!!! Until the election ending of Trump's 2nd term, there is no scientific way to compare their overall increase or decrease in GDP. But so far, Trump's is looking far better!
Obama had three quarters where the GDP was higher ... (show quote)




Your attempted point is without any focus..

President Obama had to deal with the worst recession in 70 years, plus the obstruction of the republican party determined to undermine his adminestration even at the cost of damage to our nation..

The orange putz basks in the work done by President Obama and his administration..



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Oct 4, 2018 17:08:02   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
byronglimish wrote:
What do you say will be the three greatest woes?




Timing may alter that.. also the fact that I am not knowledgeable of all the the court will be dealing with..

My judgement is the fact that he supports the president being above the law.. cannot be indicted or impeached, per several papers he wrote in past years..

Also of great concern would be Gamble vs US.. which he would deal with in Oct, if he gets the chance..

This case contends that the double jeprody rule should prevent states from prosecuting someone if the have been pardoned at the federal level..

So if the ruling should go trump way, he would fully pardon all the people guilty of crimes in covering the orange a**.



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Oct 4, 2018 17:10:24   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Fit2BTied wrote:
3. How "woe" the democwats wiw go to twy to tuwn their bwue wave into impeachment heawings for Kavanaugh and Twump.

2. Wistening to aww the conservatives c"woe" about how they won this round against the wiberaws.

1. The eventuaw repeaw of "Woe" vs Wade




I should not laugh at that, but I can not help myself..

well played.. right out of Big bang theory...

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Oct 4, 2018 17:17:58   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Please tell me you're not Norwegian.
permafrost wrote:
Timing may alter that.. also the fact that I am not knowledgeable of all the the court will be dealing with..

My judgement is the fact that he supports the president being above the law.. cannot be indicted or impeached, per several papers he wrote in past years..

Also of great concern would be Gamble vs US.. which he would deal with in Oct, if he gets the chance..

This case contends that the double jeprody rule should prevent states from prosecuting someone if the have been pardoned at the federal level..

So if the ruling should go trump way, he would fully pardon all the people guilty of crimes in covering the orange a**.
Timing may alter that.. also the fact that I am no... (show quote)

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Oct 4, 2018 17:21:59   #
Fit2BTied Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
I should not laugh at that, but I can not help myself..

well played.. right out of Big bang theory...
Youw Wewcome. (It's not wike you haven't had me wotfwmao at some of youw pics)



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Oct 4, 2018 18:46:58   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Fit2BTied wrote:
3. How "woe" the democwats wiw go to twy to tuwn their bwue wave into impeachment heawings for Kavanaugh and Twump.

2. Wistening to aww the conservatives c"woe" about how they won this round against the wiberaws.

1. The eventuaw repeaw of "Woe" vs Wade


Nice!! So true!

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Oct 4, 2018 18:53:12   #
vettelover Loc: Richmond Va
 
permafrost wrote:
as the orange people always do, you are mixing quarterly figures with annual figures..

Now GDP is 4.1 This in a quarterly rate, President Obama had higher rate a number of times.

The highest GDP growth of Obama's presidency was during the third quarter of 2014, when it hit 5.2 percent.

The first reading of real growth domestic product for the fourth quarter of 2017 was published Friday by the government's Bureau of Economic Analysis, and it shows an increase of only 2.6%. For the whole year, the

increase in real GDP is 2.3%. That's better than the 1.5% growth rate in 2016, the last year of Barack Obama's second term, but only a tiny hair better than the average over Obama's full second term.
as the orange people always do, you are mixing qua... (show quote)


He hit 4 plus four (4) times in 8 years. ACA was counted into those stats.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/188185/percent-chance-from-preceding-period-in-real-gdp-in-the-us/#0

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Oct 4, 2018 19:20:19   #
vettelover Loc: Richmond Va
 
permafrost wrote:
FBI finished early... report is in govt hands...

I would say the early end means Kav will be approved early Friday morning..

Greater woe for our nation and our descendants..



He was a moderate until your looney tune liberal pals drove him right up to the front door of the far right because I can promise you, he will be voting against anything your party platform puts in front of him. You guys are scaring the shit out of all of us with your borderline if not fascist reasoning and your complete lack of respect for our common laws, and Constitutional understanding. Your party is dangerous! How can you not disagree with that? What a very poorly crafted hit job that was! You guys did not try to hide a thing, due process and an honest hearing was trashed! I am embarrassed once agai at our banana republic due process.

Kavanaugh could have cared a less about Row v Wade but you modern day Democrat Socialist ringleaders started in on FEAR FEAR FEAR and morphed into the biggest reality shit show on earth! His history does not show he is a hard righty but I can guarantee you now he is! You also did nor do yourself any favors for the mid-terms. I would be beyond stunned if you receive a net gain in either chamber.

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