Doug Rodrigues

That's a technique right out of the Rules for Radicals book written by the Communist Saul Alinski.

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

You have been finding that out too. Some of the best people here are opposite from me politically speaking.

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

I think that sometimes...even conservatives don't like to hear the truth...that's all.

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

It would be difficult, if not impossible, to determine political ideology based solely on vitriol. The childish inability to even consider a different idea, pretty much covers the board. It would be easier to count those who do NOT exhibit such behavior, but that also covers different ideologies. It would be nice to think that "our side" was more reasonable, but the evidence suggests otherwise.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

I was referencing a few very unkind, bitter, and angry people that can not communicate using words that are not hostile and bitter. And although I would like to think better of the Liberal party, these people are what I judge the entire community of Liberals by, and what they show is consideration, compassion, and civility as long as everyone agrees with them. As soon as you do not, or ask how they arrive at their conclusion, then the name calling begins. I can almost see you shaking your head in disagreement, so I challenge you to go back through the threads and read the comments and you decide who has the ability to remain cordial. Then check out which side they lean.

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

I was noticeing the worst people to be the hard right wing elements There is no getting anywhere with them. They are the rudest rottenest completely biased ruthless hateful people I have run across. Still though I am an Independant democrat leaning voter I have found many on the right who are very good people with good social skills.

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

...I believe that anyone that doesn't agree with every thought you have...is generally a person you deem unworthy and that has been my experience with you. Not to say that YOU don't have the freedom to say whatever you want, but that has been my experience. Your mind is made up in spite of the facts or alternatives that differ from yours.
I know that I have left a trail of bitterness on this site and it is people like yourself that have their mind made up.
My responses to you has been just as one dimensional as you typically dish out.
Is that the issue, no one is allowed a little sarcasm to make a point?
What I see a lot is that a lot of internet misinformation floats around here, and then the people that create get frustrated by facts.
My kids are good for making up American History all of the time, but that doesn't mean it's correct.

Homestead

That's probably were your getting confused.

The modern liberal is a communist.
Most of them are too stupid to understand that, but, to save America is to promote liberty. This is contrary to the communists(Democrats) agenda.

So saving America is a partisan issue.

You just need to decide whether your going to fight those that oppose freedom or give up and let them take it.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

The vast majority of people have firm mindsets of what they consider acceptable. Mine differ than some and that is not necessarily a bad thing. I find that I do not trust people that can not take a stand.

You say that I find or deem someone unworthy. That is not close to being accurate. I find everyone worthy, each person brings to the table their own experiences, their views, and their prejudices. I am not, nor have I ever, been in a position to deem anyone unworthy. My goal is to share what I have learned and not demonize anyone. I assure you that your opinions have sufficient worth or merit to receive honor, esteem, or reward. In other words, I do not judge you. If perhaps you think that I see you in such substandard light, perhaps you have judged yourself and found that there is room for improvement.

Although I would like to tell you that your remarks have made me feel bad, or humbled me I simply can not for it would be dishonest and untruthful. I wish I could assure you that you are always correct in your view or opinions, but again that would be doing you a disservice. No one is always right and no one is always wrong. Papa would remind me that even a clock that has stopped is right twice each day. So, I will continue to read your comments and perhaps I will find those moments when I can agree with your perspective.

Whereas I see worth in your children having good imaginations, I encourage you to teach them how to research and not forget about books written prior to the 1960s. There is a wealth of knowledge that is being overwritten by progressive educational efforts.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

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lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

I am afraid that you give yourself far too much credit, my friend. Your assumption that your brilliant insights have bothered the less enlightened, shows an incredible arrogance and a complete misunderstanding of human nature. People, whom you've disagreed with, may have become angry at YOU, but they did not get angry at what you said. Hard headedness affects the ears ( and eyes ) and prevents absorption of differing viewpoints, thus denying considered repost.

The other idea that prevents discourse, is a pathological assertion of one's own correctness. Failing to present cogent arguments to bolster one's own viewpoint, those afflicted will resort to attempting the "guilt tripping" of detractors, for having the temerity to disagree. Arrogance = ignorance.

Homestead

So give us an example of correct American history.

saveamerica Loc: Texas

Lightfoot, you put a boot in their ass that's the American way......

Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan

I'm afraid you suffer the same fateful defect.

My reflection of people's opinion usually results with being lobbed with shit from pointless websites that claim that they provide the only news.

My father provides the same information with absolutely no idea that such news is as valuable as a UFO sighting or Bigfoot.

I have personal experience. And I can name, names. Instead, I get to hear from some clown that talked to there sister's, cousin's brother-in-law about facts. There are ways to study facts, like being there and understanding them.

As a for instance, my parents totally buy into the notion that marijuana usage leads to harder drugs. If that were true (regardless of the dangers of using heroin) wouldn't the numbers of people using Marijuana either be equal to the number of heroin users or less the number of users? And yet it isn't: Marijuana users outweigh heroin users by 50 to 1. And yet, that doesn't matter because I'm getting that information from the government that we don't agree with. Hmmm, the CDC has nothing to hide and this information goes back 30 years, through many different administrations. And yet, we are to believe that all of sudden the last 6 years of data is wrong.

People deposit misinformation without really understanding who gets affected by that...and what do we get in return: retribution from the masses. Isn't it ridiculous that if you go to vote that you aren't expected to provide identification? Isn't that a more important issue than welfare, which in addition to SSA benefits are paid for out of the tax collection. I don't want to get into an argument, but there are all kinds of reasons that people find themselves needy and I see it every day because I work for a variety of charity organizations.
If I sound condescending: it is because I do know what I'm talking about. I don't listen to a 5th party acquaintance that has watered down the facts the way they "see" them. People believe what they want to believe based on racism, and one bad experience they had in their childhood. Or fears created by society. Take Trayvon Martin, whether he's guilty of anything, he's dead and his murder (yes, murder) is being justified by a law written to protect gun ownership. Who benefits from that? Gun makers: right? I believe that Trayvon was let down by society and he was waiting for an opportunity to proceed into a criminal career-no argument there. If you dig a little further a lot of adults let him down. He was lashing out the only way he knew and we become so polarized as a society we can't even look at the facts, because apparently those fact are too ugly.