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Sep 21, 2018 23:36:23   #
Ricktloml
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
What "facts" do you have? A polygraph test is not only unreliable, the results are inadmissible in court. And, you seem to ignore the FACT that Ford doesn't remember much at all about the alleged incident, other than one freaking name. That is highly suspicious and is indicative of an ulterior motive, obviously a political one.

Senator Grassley has given Ford every opportunity to step up to the plate, including flying the committee's investigative team to a location of her choice to get her testimony. Even president Trump is on board with her stepping forward. Ford's lawyers say she is open to testifying IF the senators offer her "terms that are fair and which ensure her safety." WTF? I sure as hell don't see any liberal progs on that committee treating Kavanaugh fairly, all those assholes do is vomit all kinds of vile shit about the man.

The FACT is, woodenhead, that we all would like to hear what this feminazi activist, pussy hatted devotee of Bernie Sanders has to say.

The drive to sink Kavanaugh is liberal totalitarianism

If Senate Democrats and their media allies manage to destroy Brett Kavanaugh, they will bring America one step closer to a new, liberal style of totalitarianism.

I don’t use the “T”-word lightly. I’ve spent years pushing back against those who fling it about in free societies like ours. But totalitarianism doesn’t require cartoonish, 1984-style secret police and Big Brother. The classical definition is a society where everything — ethical norms and moral principles and truth itself — is subjugated to political ends.

By that measure, the Democratic campaign to block Kavanaugh’s nomination to the Supreme Court, based on a hazy, uncorroborated, decades-old assault allegation, tends toward the totalitarian. Certainly, it has many of the elements of abusive politics that Americans normally associate with foreign lands untouched by the light of liberty and reason:

An (initially) anonymous accusation, surfaced at the 11th hour, seemingly calculated to strike terror into the hearts of Kavanaugh and his family members and supporters? Check! That came in the form of Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s cryptic statement last week, confirming that she had “received information from an individual concerning the nomination” of Kavanaugh but declining to offer any details.

An accusation that’s impossible to rebut? Check! Senate Democrats are demanding that the FBI look into the allegations first before the Judiciary Committee holds a hearing. But Kavanaugh’s accuser, Christine Blasey Ford, can’t remember the time or location of the alleged incident. An FBI probe is impracticable, not to mention improper given the lack of a federal crime.

Kavanaugh’s integrity is thus besmirched, and the path to the only forum where he could clear his name is obstructed.

A media mob that treats the mere existence of an accusation as proof of its veracity? Check! The examples of this are legion. My favorite came courtesy of the Atlantic writer who claimed that her own run-in with a pervert meant that Kavanaugh is also guilty. This, just a couple of years after Rolling Stone’s University of Virginia fiasco was supposed to have taught reporters a lesson about the importance of listening to the accused as well as the accusers.

It didn’t have to be this way.

Feinstein didn’t have to leak the anonymous accusation to the press, contrary to Ford’s wishes. Or she could have urged Ford to go public early, giving both parties enough time to be heard.

Even now, Feinstein and her colleagues could back a committee hearing, without which Kavan­augh has no realistic opportunity for mounting a defense. Kavan­augh is a judge and a political operator. But he ‘s also a father and husband.

But no. Senate Dems have settled on the ugliest means available, even by the standards of the body that added the verb “Borking” to our political vocabulary. The question is: Why have Republican high-court nominations brought out the worst from the left, going back to the Ronald Reagan era?

The short answer is that liberals fear their major cultural victories of the past half-century are democratically illegitimate. Not a single one was won at the ballot box, going back to the Supreme Court’s 1965 Griswold decision, which recognized a constitutional right to contraceptives. From abortion to gay marriage, plus a host of less titillating issues, modern liberalism has lived by the Court. And liberals fear their cause will die by the Court.

Unless, that is, they block conservative encroachments into the judiciary by all means necessary. Hence, Borking and Clarence Thomas-ing. And hence, too, the naked slandering of Mitt Romney in the course of the 2012 presidential campaign, to forestall his shifting the Court to the right.

I wish I could say that the way out of this impasse is for the right to double down on the gentle conservatism represented by Romney, the Bush dynasty, and the late John McCain. Perhaps that is the right course in the long term. But for now, it is imperative for the health of American democracy to resist the liberal ruthlessness that is on display in the halls of the Senate.

The verb “to Kavanaugh” must not be permitted to enter our lexicon, lest the step to unfreedom become irrevocable.


Liberal progressives are pushing their anti-American agenda to the threshold, there is a breaking point, and there will be a reckoning if they go too far. It won't be pretty. Genuine Americans have had enough of this shit.
What "facts" do you have? A polygraph te... (show quote)


You didn't name the author of that article, (if it was not an article and was your words, ) on either case it was spot on. For decades the left has been reprehensible in it's treatment of nominations made by Republican presidents. Everything in that article could not be more true. Thanks for putting it a way that is so clear.

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Sep 22, 2018 03:06:35   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
DaWg44 wrote:
I guess my take on this will show my age & old people are not acceptable in the New World of Leftist/Liberals. They might to a minute or two to realize they will get old too, Government by them cannot stop that.

If the Dr./Professor, whichever she wants to be called this hour of this day, was 15 years old, why in the Hell was she at a party w/ no adult supervision? If anything happened, she needs to be bitching at her parents.

I have a granddaughter that will never be in that position because I have spent my whole career, truly impowering women, not building straw man bullshit. I addressed single parent issues, in the late 80’s, paid for childcare for single parent employees, provided lawyers for child support cases, spousal abuse, education, self defense training.

I do not believe a damn word of what the Dr./Professor says, think it smells funny. If anything like this ever happened to her, her parents are to blame.

If you want to live in a real world, a better world, get your head out of the collective ass of politics.
I guess my take on this will show my age & old... (show quote)


My sentiments exactly. Good post.

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Sep 22, 2018 03:25:10   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
woodguru wrote:
The third person needs to swear and talk under oath to the FBI.


You continue to labor under the misapprehension that this is in the FBI's purview. It is not. The statute of limitations has expired, and this is not something that the FBI investigates even if it hadn't. The FBI has already kicked this one to the curb. This is simply grandstanding by Ford's lawyer to impress people (like you) who are not familiar with what the law actually says.
Liberals try to come off as such morality driven crusaders, when in fact they will say or do anything to drag a Conservative down, and gullibly believe the most outlandish accusations, as long as it's a Liberal accusing a Conservative. Meanwhile you ignore real crimes committed by real adult Democrats while holding public office, even when the accusers have proof, which is something that Ford is completely lacking.

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Sep 22, 2018 04:00:40   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
What "facts" do you have? A polygraph test is not only unreliable, the results are inadmissible in court. And, you seem to ignore the FACT that Ford doesn't remember much at all about the alleged incident, other than one freaking name. That is highly suspicious and is indicative of an ulterior motive, obviously a political one.

Senator Grassley has given Ford every opportunity to step up to the plate, including flying the committee's investigative team to a location of her choice to get her testimony. Even president Trump is on board with her stepping forward. Ford's lawyers say she is open to testifying IF the senators offer her "terms that are fair and which ensure her safety." WTF? I sure as hell don't see any liberal progs on that committee treating Kavanaugh fairly, all those assholes do is vomit all kinds of vile shit about the man.

The FACT is, woodenhead, that we all would like to hear what this feminazi activist, pussy hatted devotee of Bernie Sanders has to say.

The drive to sink Kavanaugh is liberal totalitarianism

If Senate Democrats and their media allies manage to destroy Brett Kavanaugh, they will bring America one step closer to a new, liberal style of totalitarianism.

I don’t use the “T”-word lightly. I’ve spent years pushing back against those who fling it about in free societies like ours. But totalitarianism doesn’t require cartoonish, 1984-style secret police and Big Brother. The classical definition is a society where everything — ethical norms and moral principles and truth itself — is subjugated to political ends.

By that measure, the Democratic campaign to block Kavanaugh’s nomination to the Supreme Court, based on a hazy, uncorroborated, decades-old assault allegation, tends toward the totalitarian. Certainly, it has many of the elements of abusive politics that Americans normally associate with foreign lands untouched by the light of liberty and reason:

An (initially) anonymous accusation, surfaced at the 11th hour, seemingly calculated to strike terror into the hearts of Kavanaugh and his family members and supporters? Check! That came in the form of Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s cryptic statement last week, confirming that she had “received information from an individual concerning the nomination” of Kavanaugh but declining to offer any details.

An accusation that’s impossible to rebut? Check! Senate Democrats are demanding that the FBI look into the allegations first before the Judiciary Committee holds a hearing. But Kavanaugh’s accuser, Christine Blasey Ford, can’t remember the time or location of the alleged incident. An FBI probe is impracticable, not to mention improper given the lack of a federal crime.

Kavanaugh’s integrity is thus besmirched, and the path to the only forum where he could clear his name is obstructed.

A media mob that treats the mere existence of an accusation as proof of its veracity? Check! The examples of this are legion. My favorite came courtesy of the Atlantic writer who claimed that her own run-in with a pervert meant that Kavanaugh is also guilty. This, just a couple of years after Rolling Stone’s University of Virginia fiasco was supposed to have taught reporters a lesson about the importance of listening to the accused as well as the accusers.

It didn’t have to be this way.

Feinstein didn’t have to leak the anonymous accusation to the press, contrary to Ford’s wishes. Or she could have urged Ford to go public early, giving both parties enough time to be heard.

Even now, Feinstein and her colleagues could back a committee hearing, without which Kavan­augh has no realistic opportunity for mounting a defense. Kavan­augh is a judge and a political operator. But he ‘s also a father and husband.

But no. Senate Dems have settled on the ugliest means available, even by the standards of the body that added the verb “Borking” to our political vocabulary. The question is: Why have Republican high-court nominations brought out the worst from the left, going back to the Ronald Reagan era?

The short answer is that liberals fear their major cultural victories of the past half-century are democratically illegitimate. Not a single one was won at the ballot box, going back to the Supreme Court’s 1965 Griswold decision, which recognized a constitutional right to contraceptives. From abortion to gay marriage, plus a host of less titillating issues, modern liberalism has lived by the Court. And liberals fear their cause will die by the Court.

Unless, that is, they block conservative encroachments into the judiciary by all means necessary. Hence, Borking and Clarence Thomas-ing. And hence, too, the naked slandering of Mitt Romney in the course of the 2012 presidential campaign, to forestall his shifting the Court to the right.

I wish I could say that the way out of this impasse is for the right to double down on the gentle conservatism represented by Romney, the Bush dynasty, and the late John McCain. Perhaps that is the right course in the long term. But for now, it is imperative for the health of American democracy to resist the liberal ruthlessness that is on display in the halls of the Senate.

The verb “to Kavanaugh” must not be permitted to enter our lexicon, lest the step to unfreedom become irrevocable.


Liberal progressives are pushing their anti-American agenda to the threshold, there is a breaking point, and there will be a reckoning if they go too far. It won't be pretty. Genuine Americans have had enough of this shit.
What "facts" do you have? A polygraph te... (show quote)


Thanks BR!
This article covers the Leftist BS.

The drive to sink Kavanaugh is liberal totalitarianism
https://nypost.com/2018/09/19/the-drive-to-sink-kavanaugh-is-liberal-totalitarianism/


The verb “to Kavanaugh” must not be permitted to enter our lexicon, lest the step to unfreedom become irrevocable.

Sohrab Ahmari is senior writer at Commentary and author of the forthcoming memoir of Catholic conversion, “From Fire, By Water.”

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Sep 22, 2018 10:55:43   #
debeda
 
Smedley_buzkill wrote:
You continue to labor under the misapprehension that this is in the FBI's purview. It is not. The statute of limitations has expired, and this is not something that the FBI investigates even if it hadn't. The FBI has already kicked this one to the curb. This is simply grandstanding by Ford's lawyer to impress people (like you) who are not familiar with what the law actually says.
Liberals try to come off as such morality driven crusaders, when in fact they will say or do anything to drag a Conservative down, and gullibly believe the most outlandish accusations, as long as it's a Liberal accusing a Conservative. Meanwhile you ignore real crimes committed by real adult Democrats while holding public office, even when the accusers have proof, which is something that Ford is completely lacking.
You continue to labor under the misapprehension th... (show quote)




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Sep 22, 2018 11:38:07   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
debeda wrote:
"I agree it never happened. Honestly, I am shocked this peccadello that supposedly happened between two children nearly 40 years ago is causing such a furor. NO corroboration of anything then or since. This whole thing is a waste of our employee's time. Maybe someone should begin reminding Congress sternly that they ARE our employees. And remind them to get to work doing their JOBS instead of forking around with nonsense!"

https://static.onepoliticalplaza.com/upload/2018/9/22/t1-380932-rape.jpg

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Sep 22, 2018 14:24:06   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Kavanaugh Accuser Refused To Attend Monday Hearing for Absurd Reason
https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/author/cillian-zeal/?ff_source=push&ff_medium=conservativetribune&ff_campaign=manualpost&ff_content=2018-09-22

Allegations of sexual assault aren’t supposed to veer into the darkly comical. That’s generally a sign that things have gone terribly wrong somewhere along the line, or that whoever beholds the process as darkly comical is a twisted individual.

I think I’m on safe ground when I say those finding absurdity in the case of Christine Blasey Ford decidedly aren’t twisted.

In the most bizarre reason why the 51-year-old research psychologist accusing Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assaulting her in high school can’t testify before Congress on Monday, Ford has said she cannot attend because she’s afraid of flying…


Blade_Runner wrote:
What "facts" do you have? A polygraph test is not only unreliable, the results are inadmissible in court. And, you seem to ignore the FACT that Ford doesn't remember much at all about the alleged incident, other than one freaking name. That is highly suspicious and is indicative of an ulterior motive, obviously a political one.

Senator Grassley has given Ford every opportunity to step up to the plate, including flying the committee's investigative team to a location of her choice to get her testimony. Even president Trump is on board with her stepping forward. Ford's lawyers say she is open to testifying IF the senators offer her "terms that are fair and which ensure her safety." WTF? I sure as hell don't see any liberal progs on that committee treating Kavanaugh fairly, all those assholes do is vomit all kinds of vile shit about the man.

The FACT is, woodenhead, that we all would like to hear what this feminazi activist, pussy hatted devotee of Bernie Sanders has to say.

The drive to sink Kavanaugh is liberal totalitarianism

If Senate Democrats and their media allies manage to destroy Brett Kavanaugh, they will bring America one step closer to a new, liberal style of totalitarianism.

I don’t use the “T”-word lightly. I’ve spent years pushing back against those who fling it about in free societies like ours. But totalitarianism doesn’t require cartoonish, 1984-style secret police and Big Brother. The classical definition is a society where everything — ethical norms and moral principles and truth itself — is subjugated to political ends.

By that measure, the Democratic campaign to block Kavanaugh’s nomination to the Supreme Court, based on a hazy, uncorroborated, decades-old assault allegation, tends toward the totalitarian. Certainly, it has many of the elements of abusive politics that Americans normally associate with foreign lands untouched by the light of liberty and reason:

An (initially) anonymous accusation, surfaced at the 11th hour, seemingly calculated to strike terror into the hearts of Kavanaugh and his family members and supporters? Check! That came in the form of Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s cryptic statement last week, confirming that she had “received information from an individual concerning the nomination” of Kavanaugh but declining to offer any details.

An accusation that’s impossible to rebut? Check! Senate Democrats are demanding that the FBI look into the allegations first before the Judiciary Committee holds a hearing. But Kavanaugh’s accuser, Christine Blasey Ford, can’t remember the time or location of the alleged incident. An FBI probe is impracticable, not to mention improper given the lack of a federal crime.

Kavanaugh’s integrity is thus besmirched, and the path to the only forum where he could clear his name is obstructed.

A media mob that treats the mere existence of an accusation as proof of its veracity? Check! The examples of this are legion. My favorite came courtesy of the Atlantic writer who claimed that her own run-in with a pervert meant that Kavanaugh is also guilty. This, just a couple of years after Rolling Stone’s University of Virginia fiasco was supposed to have taught reporters a lesson about the importance of listening to the accused as well as the accusers.

It didn’t have to be this way.

Feinstein didn’t have to leak the anonymous accusation to the press, contrary to Ford’s wishes. Or she could have urged Ford to go public early, giving both parties enough time to be heard.

Even now, Feinstein and her colleagues could back a committee hearing, without which Kavan­augh has no realistic opportunity for mounting a defense. Kavan­augh is a judge and a political operator. But he ‘s also a father and husband.

But no. Senate Dems have settled on the ugliest means available, even by the standards of the body that added the verb “Borking” to our political vocabulary. The question is: Why have Republican high-court nominations brought out the worst from the left, going back to the Ronald Reagan era?

The short answer is that liberals fear their major cultural victories of the past half-century are democratically illegitimate. Not a single one was won at the ballot box, going back to the Supreme Court’s 1965 Griswold decision, which recognized a constitutional right to contraceptives. From abortion to gay marriage, plus a host of less titillating issues, modern liberalism has lived by the Court. And liberals fear their cause will die by the Court.

Unless, that is, they block conservative encroachments into the judiciary by all means necessary. Hence, Borking and Clarence Thomas-ing. And hence, too, the naked slandering of Mitt Romney in the course of the 2012 presidential campaign, to forestall his shifting the Court to the right.

I wish I could say that the way out of this impasse is for the right to double down on the gentle conservatism represented by Romney, the Bush dynasty, and the late John McCain. Perhaps that is the right course in the long term. But for now, it is imperative for the health of American democracy to resist the liberal ruthlessness that is on display in the halls of the Senate.

The verb “to Kavanaugh” must not be permitted to enter our lexicon, lest the step to unfreedom become irrevocable.


Liberal progressives are pushing their anti-American agenda to the threshold, there is a breaking point, and there will be a reckoning if they go too far. It won't be pretty. Genuine Americans have had enough of this shit.
What "facts" do you have? A polygraph te... (show quote)

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Sep 22, 2018 16:34:05   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
woodguru wrote:
And the right made their minds up without facts as well, including Grassley and Hatch

Ford took a lie detecter test, perhaps Kavanaugh and Judge should? Would I don't remember prove to be a lie?


Ford may have took a lie detector test but how were the questions framed? When asking any individual questions, there are many ways to put forth the question which indicate no lie when lying, but put another way would indicate there to be a lie. It is all in the way a question is asked. Since she has a lawyer, that person could have framed the questions to be asked in such a way the answers would be hard to determine if they were false or truthful. Just saying, not insinuating that she is guilty of lying. We should know how many years after the alleged incident took place did she regain some recollection of the events and how much she remembers. Her attorney asking Kavanaugh to go first is only a ploy. The defendant never goes first, they have to know what all the allegations are and time and place that they are alleged to have happened. No one can defend their selves without know, especially where and when, so they can dispute the claims without those two events being known there could never be a conviction in any court. I believe she may have been assaulted but didn't remember who the attacker was. It has never been stated that she told her doctor in 2012, Kavanaugh was her assailant. So many questions to be answered before her story can be proven.




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Sep 22, 2018 19:24:58   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Louie27 wrote:
Ford may have took a lie detector test but how were the questions framed? When asking any individual questions, there are many ways to put forth the question which indicate no lie when lying, but put another way would indicate there to be a lie. It is all in the way a question is asked. Since she has a lawyer, that person could have framed the questions to be asked in such a way the answers would be hard to determine if they were false or truthful. Just saying, not insinuating that she is guilty of lying. We should know how many years after the alleged incident took place did she regain some recollection of the events and how much she remembers. Her attorney asking Kavanaugh to go first is only a ploy. The defendant never goes first, they have to know what all the allegations are and time and place that they are alleged to have happened. No one can defend their selves without know, especially where and when, so they can dispute the claims without those two events being known there could never be a conviction in any court. I believe she may have been assaulted but didn't remember who the attacker was. It has never been stated that she told her doctor in 2012, Kavanaugh was her assailant. So many questions to be answered before her story can be proven.



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Dianne Feinstein’s Office Won’t Share Kavanaugh Accuser’s Letter
https://republicbroadcasting.org/news/dianne-feinsteins-office-wont-share-kavanaugh-accusers-letter/

The longer that the Brett Kavanaugh sexual assault allegation scandal continues, the worse it looks for the accuser.

Feinstein’s Error

Senator Dianne Feinstein, the lawmaker whom Christine Blasey Ford confided in with her accusations, has done a great job at destroying any credibility Ford had going into this. By being informed of her allegations in the form of a letter back in July, and waiting until a week before Kavanaugh’s Senate Judiciary Committee confirmation vote to release the details, Feinstein has tainted Ford’s claims. Now, many suspect the allegations are too politically timed to be believed. Even some Senate Democrats are displeased by the suspect timing. (RELATED: Democrats Privately Express Doubt on Feinstein’s Handling of Kavanaugh Information.)

At the beginning of this saga, Ford could have made a real, substantive case about her alleged assault. She could have made the allegations and demanded a full inquiry. Instead, she waited to go public, and, in turn, undermined her own case. Now Ford is refusing to testify before Congress, despite her attorney agreeing that she would just days prior. (RELATED: Kavanaugh Accuser Christine Blasey Ford Wants FBI Investigation, Won’t Testify Before Congress.)

Missing Evidence

But it gets worse. It turns out that Sen. Feinstein’s office is withholding a key piece of information related to the Kavanaugh investigation: Ford’s unredacted original letter detailing the assault.

Now, if Feinstein really wanted to get to the bottom of what happened between Kavanaugh and Ford, you’d think she would share that letter with the rest of the Senate Judiciary Committee, which is investigating the incident currently. But she isn’t:

No More Excuses

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Sep 22, 2018 19:43:00   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Dianne Feinstein’s Office Won’t Share Kavanaugh Accuser’s Letter
https://republicbroadcasting.org/news/dianne-feinsteins-office-wont-share-kavanaugh-accusers-letter/

The longer that the Brett Kavanaugh sexual assault allegation scandal continues, the worse it looks for the accuser.

Feinstein’s Error

Senator Dianne Feinstein, the lawmaker whom Christine Blasey Ford confided in with her accusations, has done a great job at destroying any credibility Ford had going into this. By being informed of her allegations in the form of a letter back in July, and waiting until a week before Kavanaugh’s Senate Judiciary Committee confirmation vote to release the details, Feinstein has tainted Ford’s claims. Now, many suspect the allegations are too politically timed to be believed. Even some Senate Democrats are displeased by the suspect timing. (RELATED: Democrats Privately Express Doubt on Feinstein’s Handling of Kavanaugh Information.)

At the beginning of this saga, Ford could have made a real, substantive case about her alleged assault. She could have made the allegations and demanded a full inquiry. Instead, she waited to go public, and, in turn, undermined her own case. Now Ford is refusing to testify before Congress, despite her attorney agreeing that she would just days prior. (RELATED: Kavanaugh Accuser Christine Blasey Ford Wants FBI Investigation, Won’t Testify Before Congress.)

Missing Evidence

But it gets worse. It turns out that Sen. Feinstein’s office is withholding a key piece of information related to the Kavanaugh investigation: Ford’s unredacted original letter detailing the assault.

Now, if Feinstein really wanted to get to the bottom of what happened between Kavanaugh and Ford, you’d think she would share that letter with the rest of the Senate Judiciary Committee, which is investigating the incident currently. But she isn’t:

No More Excuses
Dianne Feinstein’s Office Won’t Share Kavanaugh Ac... (show quote)



I think that Feinstein only wants to be reelected and the Democrats to delay, delay until time runs out for any appointment by Trump.

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Sep 22, 2018 20:03:22   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Louie27 wrote:

I think that Feinstein only wants to be reelected and the Democrats to delay, delay until time runs out for any appointment by Trump.


Of course that is all this stalling is about.
The Hildabeast was a shoe-in to make those appointments.

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Sep 22, 2018 23:29:41   #
DaWg44
 
debeda wrote:
Very, VERY true!! I wish I had worked for your company!!


I grew up up a hard scrabble farm in a community of the same. We were all living season by season, crop to crop. No matter how bad it was for all, everyone would pull together, go to rice & beans, instead of beans & rice. Trust me, there is a difference. When you see hot buttered cornbread for breakfast instead of biscuits, you know times are not good. Cornbread pancakes are good, I still make them.

I don’t have the vocabulary to say things w/o offending someone, hope no one has to rush to their therapist. I learned early on that females, beast, or human were the most important part of nature. I grew up in the South, another strike against me, but I knew it was Steel Magnolias that rebuilt what was left after The War. I think it is a trait in all women who live close to nature. My mother & a mother off a MidWest farm would have had more in common than she ever had w/ city wives. I watched my mother eat two three bites, say she just wasn’t hungry, put her food back in the pot, hoping Daddy would eat when he got in from the fields. When I went to the fields, she was hoping both of us would eat. No mention was ever made the next day that we had leftovers from the day before.

I was raised to respect all women, insulting my mother was understood to be a killing offense. The adjectives used flagrantly today would all fall in the same category. If you saw a woman being abused, did not matter what was going on, you got it the middle of it. Sometimes it ended up w/ you having a problem but you did it anyway.

I got my first taste of radical feminism in 1972. It was on the first TOSHA inspection ever made in TN. The owner of the plant asked me to be there because I installed & serviced all his manufacturing equipment. We had our introductory meeting, reviewed the paperwork & started into the manufacturing area. I opened the door for the young lady, she stepped in the doorway & said us, “Let’s get one damn thing straight right now. I am perfectly capable of opening doors for myself.” I apologized for offending her, assured her she could open all the doors we were going to go through.

In 1974, I was on a oneway street in Roanoke, VA & motion in the car beside me at stoplights caught my attention. The second time I looked, the man had knocked one of the woman’s eyeballs out. I turned off the car went over to his, snatched door open & suggested if he were a real man, try me on for size. When he got straightened up out of the car & I was looking at his Adam’s Apple, I knew I had a problem. He was already in mean mode. I went country, long story short, I ended up in jail, facing 20 years for “Mayhem on a human body.” I made bond went to see the woman in the hospital, gave her my card & asked her to call me everyday to let me know how she was doing. When it came time for court, the Judge took me in his chambers for a chat. He asked me if I understood what 20 mandatory meant? I assured him I did, he told me the DA would accept a guilty plea to assault, serve 5. I told him I would not plead guilty to anything except not being able to kill that man before the cops pulled me off him. He asked, “You grew up on a farm, didn’t you?” I confessed. He said he did too, couldn’t say he would not consider the offer were he in my shoes, but hoped he would not. He told me my fate depended on the woman, he had seen a lot of women choose abuse.

I had a good lawyer, had gross pictures of the woman’s condition on multiple visits to hospitals, testimony about him dragging her out of a women’s shelter by her hair. The DA kept drawing attention to my mayhem victim in a big half laid back wheel chair contraption, still in casts, w/ one eye, pieces of ears, & some resemblance of a nose, no front teeth. During his questioning of the 4 arresting officers. He did everything he could to try to get one of them to say I had a weapon, hit one of them, that they were derelict in their duty to get me off. All they would say was I was determined not to be pulled off. The DA pointed at me, asked one of the cops to read my statistics from my booking paperwork. Six feet, 165lbs. He asked each cop for their height, weight, about their training. The last cop got a chuckled reprimand from the Judge when he told the the DA after giving his statistics, size don’t matter when willpower is in control.

When the woman took the stand, she asked the Judge if she could just make a statement & be done. The Judge agreed over protests from the DA. She pointed at me & said, “I wish that man had come along years ago. I did not think I was going to live through the beating that day, was tired of the pain. I will never let another man hurt me.”

Yep, I am one of the “Old White Men who needs to die” according to Oprah. I escorted the first black girl through our high school during desegregation deep in South GA. There was no hullabaloo. She made friends quickly, gave me a nickname, “Bones”.

I have nurtured, pushed, pulled, begged on occasion, women assembly line workers to be their best, congratulated them when they got better jobs when I had no place available for them. I have been blessed to live long enough to see some own their own companies, others running large companies. I expect all of them can open doors for themselves, but most likely they will say “thanks” if a man opens one for them. They are confident, don’t have time or interest in petty displays.

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Sep 22, 2018 23:36:35   #
vettelover Loc: Richmond Va
 
DaWg44 wrote:
I grew up up a hard scrabble farm in a community of the same. We were all living season by season, crop to crop. No matter how bad it was for all, everyone would pull together, go to rice & beans, instead of beans & rice. Trust me, there is a difference. When you see hot buttered cornbread for breakfast instead of biscuits, you know times are not good. Cornbread pancakes are good, I still make them.

I don’t have the vocabulary to say things w/o offending someone, hope no one has to rush to their therapist. I learned early on that females, beast, or human were the most important part of nature. I grew up in the South, another strike against me, but I knew it was Steel Magnolias that rebuilt what was left after The War. I think it is a trait in all women who live close to nature. My mother & a mother off a MidWest farm would have had more in common than she ever had w/ city wives. I watched my mother eat two three bites, say she just wasn’t hungry, put her food back in the pot, hoping Daddy would eat when he got in from the fields. When I went to the fields, she was hoping both of us would eat. No mention was ever made the next day that we had leftovers from the day before.

I was raised to respect all women, insulting my mother was understood to be a killing offense. The adjectives used flagrantly today would all fall in the same category. If you saw a woman being abused, did not matter what was going on, you got it the middle of it. Sometimes it ended up w/ you having a problem but you did it anyway.

I got my first taste of radical feminism in 1972. It was on the first TOSHA inspection ever made in TN. The owner of the plant asked me to be there because I installed & serviced all his manufacturing equipment. We had our introductory meeting, reviewed the paperwork & started into the manufacturing area. I opened the door for the young lady, she stepped in the doorway & said us, “Let’s get one damn thing straight right now. I am perfectly capable of opening doors for myself.” I apologized for offending her, assured her she could open all the doors we were going to go through.

In 1974, I was on a oneway street in Roanoke, VA & motion in the car beside me at stoplights caught my attention. The second time I looked, the man had knocked one of the woman’s eyeballs out. I turned off the car went over to his, snatched door open & suggested if he were a real man, try me on for size. When he got straightened up out of the car & I was looking at his Adam’s Apple, I knew I had a problem. He was already in mean mode. I went country, long story short, I ended up in jail, facing 20 years for “Mayhem on a human body.” I made bond went to see the woman in the hospital, gave her my card & asked her to call me everyday to let me know how she was doing. When it came time for court, the Judge took me in his chambers for a chat. He asked me if I understood what 20 mandatory meant? I assured him I did, he told me the DA would accept a guilty plea to assault, serve 5. I told him I would not plead guilty to anything except not being able to kill that man before the cops pulled me off him. He asked, “You grew up on a farm, didn’t you?” I confessed. He said he did too, couldn’t say he would not consider the offer were he in my shoes, but hoped he would not. He told me my fate depended on the woman, he had seen a lot of women choose abuse.

I had a good lawyer, had gross pictures of the woman’s condition on multiple visits to hospitals, testimony about him dragging her out of a women’s shelter by her hair. The DA kept drawing attention to my mayhem victim in a big half laid back wheel chair contraption, still in casts, w/ one eye, pieces of ears, & some resemblance of a nose, no front teeth. During his questioning of the 4 arresting officers. He did everything he could to try to get one of them to say I had a weapon, hit one of them, that they were derelict in their duty to get me off. All they would say was I was determined not to be pulled off. The DA pointed at me, asked one of the cops to read my statistics from my booking paperwork. Six feet, 165lbs. He asked each cop for their height, weight, about their training. The last cop got a chuckled reprimand from the Judge when he told the the DA after giving his statistics, size don’t matter when willpower is in control.

When the woman took the stand, she asked the Judge if she could just make a statement & be done. The Judge agreed over protests from the DA. She pointed at me & said, “I wish that man had come along years ago. I did not think I was going to live through the beating that day, was tired of the pain. I will never let another man hurt me.”

Yep, I am one of the “Old White Men who needs to die” according to Oprah. I escorted the first black girl through our high school during desegregation deep in South GA. There was no hullabaloo. She made friends quickly, gave me a nickname, “Bones”.

I have nurtured, pushed, pulled, begged on occasion, women assembly line workers to be their best, congratulated them when they got better jobs when I had no place available for them. I have been blessed to live long enough to see some own their own companies, others running large companies. I expect all of them can open doors for themselves, but most likely they will say “thanks” if a man opens one for them. They are confident, don’t have time or interest in petty displays.
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great post

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Sep 23, 2018 05:02:32   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Kavanaugh Accuser Refused To Attend Monday Hearing for Absurd Reason
https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/author/cillian-zeal/?ff_source=push&ff_medium=conservativetribune&ff_campaign=manualpost&ff_content=2018-09-22

Allegations of sexual assault aren’t supposed to veer into the darkly comical. That’s generally a sign that things have gone terribly wrong somewhere along the line, or that whoever beholds the process as darkly comical is a twisted individual.

I think I’m on safe ground when I say those finding absurdity in the case of Christine Blasey Ford decidedly aren’t twisted.

In the most bizarre reason why the 51-year-old research psychologist accusing Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assaulting her in high school can’t testify before Congress on Monday, Ford has said she cannot attend because she’s afraid of flying…
Kavanaugh Accuser Refused To Attend Monday Hearing... (show quote)

The real reason Dr. Ford can not attend ISN'T because she is afraid of flying, it's because she is afraid she will be CAUGHT LYING.

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Sep 23, 2018 05:06:13   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Dianne Feinstein’s Office Won’t Share Kavanaugh Accuser’s Letter
https://republicbroadcasting.org/news/dianne-feinsteins-office-wont-share-kavanaugh-accusers-letter/

The longer that the Brett Kavanaugh sexual assault allegation scandal continues, the worse it looks for the accuser.

Feinstein’s Error

Senator Dianne Feinstein, the lawmaker whom Christine Blasey Ford confided in with her accusations, has done a great job at destroying any credibility Ford had going into this. By being informed of her allegations in the form of a letter back in July, and waiting until a week before Kavanaugh’s Senate Judiciary Committee confirmation vote to release the details, Feinstein has tainted Ford’s claims. Now, many suspect the allegations are too politically timed to be believed. Even some Senate Democrats are displeased by the suspect timing. (RELATED: Democrats Privately Express Doubt on Feinstein’s Handling of Kavanaugh Information.)

At the beginning of this saga, Ford could have made a real, substantive case about her alleged assault. She could have made the allegations and demanded a full inquiry. Instead, she waited to go public, and, in turn, undermined her own case. Now Ford is refusing to testify before Congress, despite her attorney agreeing that she would just days prior. (RELATED: Kavanaugh Accuser Christine Blasey Ford Wants FBI Investigation, Won’t Testify Before Congress.)

Missing Evidence

But it gets worse. It turns out that Sen. Feinstein’s office is withholding a key piece of information related to the Kavanaugh investigation: Ford’s unredacted original letter detailing the assault.

Now, if Feinstein really wanted to get to the bottom of what happened between Kavanaugh and Ford, you’d think she would share that letter with the rest of the Senate Judiciary Committee, which is investigating the incident currently. But she isn’t:

No More Excuses
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Amen brother amen.

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