Real reason for hating Obama
Mar 9, 2014 18:55:25 #
Augustus Greatorex wrote:
For my comment to make no sense, you are, either, completely unstable mentally or you don't interpret your own comments the way you interpret mine - which is a form of mental instability.
My conclusion is you are crazy.
That doesn't mean we cannot discuss the article. So, in your opinion, to what authority, regardless, of personal beliefs concerning that authority, should Obama appeal when dealing with other nations?
My conclusion is you are crazy.
That doesn't mean we cannot discuss the article. So, in your opinion, to what authority, regardless, of personal beliefs concerning that authority, should Obama appeal when dealing with other nations?
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Mar 9, 2014 19:03:49 #
TroubleshooterTim
Loc: People's Republic of Oregon
Glaucon wrote:
There are so many false charges against Obama that are easily refuted with evidence: Benghazi, the IRS thing, Obama's birth certificate, Obama is a Muslim, Obama hates America, and other nonsense that distract us from the fact that Obama has taken some actions that are real and do seriously harm America. Read this:
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2014/03/03
I will be interested in your comments.
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2014/03/03
I will be interested in your comments.
Glaucon,
Great article, thank you. I would have to say it is not just the flouting of international law that Obama has done that lands him in this pickle. He has also flouted the US Constitution. If you have read his book Dreams of my Father it would help to put into context his upbringing.
His father was a rebel against Gov't in Kenya. Barack was raised believing Rebellion against Gov't was a good thing. Now as president he has done more to set back democracy around the world by supporting anyone who desires to rebel against their Gov't. Most of these Arab spring countries had some semblance of Democracy. Egypt was only 8 months away form their next presidential election when the rebels attacked. Libya and Yemen are other examples of Obama breaking international laws. As much as we hated Gaddafi-- he was elected in a UN monitored election that was declared fair and free, just a couple years by being ousted by NATO. NATO broke international laws supporting the rebels. Syria is another example. In Western Media we call Assad a dictator, but look at who the citizenry of Syria is. They need a strong hand.
As for these 'false charges' that can be easily refuted...are these refuted because those involved have been compelled to not provide testimony to the oversight committee? Mass retirements (to avoid subpoenas) and making certain people off limits to the committee simply provides Eric Holder cover for not investigating further. Boehner really screwed up by not engaging an independent counsel to investigate.
Mar 9, 2014 19:07:20 #
faithistheword wrote:
In Hawaii at the time, all you had to do to get a birth announced was submit your own information. His Mother wanted him to have the advantage of American citizenship, so she had the announcement posted. Almost as easy as putting lies on OPP !
Thank you, faithistheword. I understand they still do that in the local papers in Hawaii.
Mar 9, 2014 20:06:36 #
Augustus Greatorex wrote:
You exemplify incivility.
The point was it wasn't planned fifty years ago. The publishing of live births in papers was and remains a common practice for establishing of all things inheritance rights. You may not realize how well off our president's maternal grandmother was. But that alone is valid reason to publish announcement of live birth in a US paper, especially when the birth occurs in a foreign country or in some other remote location, such as at home.
The point was it wasn't planned fifty years ago. The publishing of live births in papers was and remains a common practice for establishing of all things inheritance rights. You may not realize how well off our president's maternal grandmother was. But that alone is valid reason to publish announcement of live birth in a US paper, especially when the birth occurs in a foreign country or in some other remote location, such as at home.
Are you a birther or not? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Mar 9, 2014 21:00:15 #
Augustus Greatorex
Loc: NE
Retired669 wrote:
Are you a birther or not? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
My father was an American. I think President Obama has proven that I can be President. He did not submit documentation in any kind of "aboveboard" fashion concerning his national identity, until after he was in the "highest office." That he was not indicted for this sets a precedent for people like myself to run for that office. We are no longer required to demonstrate citizenship at birth, before taking office.
Mar 10, 2014 00:42:20 #
cesspool jones wrote:
much of what you say about obama iz half-baked but i will remind you that there iz an 'unconventional battlefield' in the making and eventually, if itz not already too late, much of the world will have to mobilize to stop it. the problem with obama is the fact that he either has not the will or sees no problem (?) which would make anyone unfit for duty. speaking of 'unconventional', did you hear that the malysian airliner that went down might have been hit by a missile?
I know you are an expert on baking, but you failed to mention what I said about our president was "half baked" I always endeavor to leave my thoughts fully baked.
I don't know about the major conspiracy of which you speak.
I hadn't heard that the Malysian plain might have been shot down with a missle.
Mar 10, 2014 00:44:43 #
Augustus Greatorex wrote:
My father was an American. I think President Obama has proven that I can be President. He did not submit documentation in any kind of "aboveboard" fashion concerning his national identity, until after he was in the "highest office." That he was not indicted for this sets a precedent for people like myself to run for that office. We are no longer required to demonstrate citizenship at birth, before taking office.
Have you been living on another planet? I have personally seen a copy of Obama's birth certificate on the internet. The I overwhelming evidence that he was born in the United States.
Mar 10, 2014 00:48:16 #
[quote=TroubleshooterTim]Glaucon,
Great article, thank you. I would have to say it is not just the flouting of international law that Obama has done that lands him in this pickle. He has also flouted the US Constitution. If you have read his book Dreams of my Father it would help to put into context his upbringing.
His father was a rebel against Gov't in Kenya. Barack was raised believing Rebellion against Gov't was a good thing. Now as president he has done more to set back democracy around the world by supporting anyone who desires to rebel against their Gov't. Most of these Arab spring countries had some semblance of Democracy. Egypt was only 8 months away form their next presidential election when the rebels attacked. Libya and Yemen are other examples of Obama breaking international laws. As much as we hated Gaddafi-- he was elected in a UN monitored election that was declared fair and free, just a couple years by being ousted by NATO. NATO broke international laws supporting the rebels. Syria is another example. In Western Media we call Assad a dictator, but look at who the citizenry of Syria is. They need a strong hand.
As for these 'false charges' that can be easily refuted...are these refuted because those involved have been compelled to not provide testimony to the oversight committee? Mass retirements (to avoid subpoenas) and making certain people off limits to the committee simply provides Eric Holder cover for not investigating further. Boehner really screwed up by not engaging an independent counsel to investigate.[/quote
You folks will grasp at anything to smear our president. Do you have any idea how crazy this is?
Great article, thank you. I would have to say it is not just the flouting of international law that Obama has done that lands him in this pickle. He has also flouted the US Constitution. If you have read his book Dreams of my Father it would help to put into context his upbringing.
His father was a rebel against Gov't in Kenya. Barack was raised believing Rebellion against Gov't was a good thing. Now as president he has done more to set back democracy around the world by supporting anyone who desires to rebel against their Gov't. Most of these Arab spring countries had some semblance of Democracy. Egypt was only 8 months away form their next presidential election when the rebels attacked. Libya and Yemen are other examples of Obama breaking international laws. As much as we hated Gaddafi-- he was elected in a UN monitored election that was declared fair and free, just a couple years by being ousted by NATO. NATO broke international laws supporting the rebels. Syria is another example. In Western Media we call Assad a dictator, but look at who the citizenry of Syria is. They need a strong hand.
As for these 'false charges' that can be easily refuted...are these refuted because those involved have been compelled to not provide testimony to the oversight committee? Mass retirements (to avoid subpoenas) and making certain people off limits to the committee simply provides Eric Holder cover for not investigating further. Boehner really screwed up by not engaging an independent counsel to investigate.[/quote
You folks will grasp at anything to smear our president. Do you have any idea how crazy this is?
Mar 10, 2014 00:50:45 #
Augustus Greatorex wrote:
Are you aware that no previous president has been asked to ..."submit documentation in any kind of "aboveboard" fashion concerning his national identity, until after he was in the "highest office." Why are we obsessing over the origins of this president?My father was an American. I think President Obama has proven that I can be President. He did not submit documentation in any kind of "aboveboard" fashion concerning his national identity, until after he was in the "highest office." That he was not indicted for this sets a precedent for people like myself to run for that office. We are no longer required to demonstrate citizenship at birth, before taking office.
Mar 10, 2014 01:01:43 #
TroubleshooterTim
Loc: People's Republic of Oregon
Glaucon wrote:
Have you been living on another planet? I have personally seen a copy of Obama's birth certificate on the internet. The I overwhelming evidence that he was born in the United States.
Here it is, the evidence you cite. We can all 'personally see it'.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf
There are a number of computer experts that refute it's authenticity.
But, what does his wife, Michelle, who knows him better than anyone on this earth, have to say about Barry's home country?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M7Rp_Ghv6k
Mar 10, 2014 01:31:08 #
TroubleshooterTim wrote:
My god, do you really believe these two items prove Obama is not a citizen? The first one doesn't even have relevance to the issue. You must really hate the black guy to accept these pieces as evidence.Here it is, the evidence you cite. We can all 'personally see it'.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf
There are a number of computer experts that refute it's authenticity.
But, what does his wife, Michelle, who knows him better than anyone on this earth, have to say about Barry's home country?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M7Rp_Ghv6k
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf
There are a number of computer experts that refute it's authenticity.
But, what does his wife, Michelle, who knows him better than anyone on this earth, have to say about Barry's home country?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M7Rp_Ghv6k
Mar 10, 2014 01:31:21 #
Only thing crazy around here GLAUSEN IS YOU YOU HAVE MIND LIKE STEEL TRAP NOTHING GET OUT[quote=Glaucon][quote=TroubleshooterTim]Glaucon,
Great article, thank you. I would have to say it is not just the flouting of international law that Obama has done that lands him in this pickle. He has also flouted the US Constitution. If you have read his book Dreams of my Father it would help to put into context his upbringing.
His father was a rebel against Gov't in Kenya. Barack was raised believing Rebellion against Gov't was a good thing. Now as president he has done more to set back democracy around the world by supporting anyone who desires to rebel against their Gov't. Most of these Arab spring countries had some semblance of Democracy. Egypt was only 8 months away form their next presidential election when the rebels attacked. Libya and Yemen are other examples of Obama breaking international laws. As much as we hated Gaddafi-- he was elected in a UN monitored election that was declared fair and free, just a couple years by being ousted by NATO. NATO broke international laws supporting the rebels. Syria is another example. In Western Media we call Assad a dictator, but look at who the citizenry of Syria is. They need a strong hand.
As for these 'false charges' that can be easily refuted...are these refuted because those involved have been compelled to not provide testimony to the oversight committee? Mass retirements (to avoid subpoenas) and making certain people off limits to the committee simply provides Eric Holder cover for not investigating further. Boehner really screwed up by not engaging an independent counsel to investigate.[/quote
You folks will grasp at anything to smear our president. Do you have any idea how crazy this is?[/quote]
Great article, thank you. I would have to say it is not just the flouting of international law that Obama has done that lands him in this pickle. He has also flouted the US Constitution. If you have read his book Dreams of my Father it would help to put into context his upbringing.
His father was a rebel against Gov't in Kenya. Barack was raised believing Rebellion against Gov't was a good thing. Now as president he has done more to set back democracy around the world by supporting anyone who desires to rebel against their Gov't. Most of these Arab spring countries had some semblance of Democracy. Egypt was only 8 months away form their next presidential election when the rebels attacked. Libya and Yemen are other examples of Obama breaking international laws. As much as we hated Gaddafi-- he was elected in a UN monitored election that was declared fair and free, just a couple years by being ousted by NATO. NATO broke international laws supporting the rebels. Syria is another example. In Western Media we call Assad a dictator, but look at who the citizenry of Syria is. They need a strong hand.
As for these 'false charges' that can be easily refuted...are these refuted because those involved have been compelled to not provide testimony to the oversight committee? Mass retirements (to avoid subpoenas) and making certain people off limits to the committee simply provides Eric Holder cover for not investigating further. Boehner really screwed up by not engaging an independent counsel to investigate.[/quote
You folks will grasp at anything to smear our president. Do you have any idea how crazy this is?[/quote]
Mar 10, 2014 05:30:43 #
Glaucon wrote:
There are so many false charges against Obama that are easily refuted with evidence: Benghazi, the IRS thing, Obama's birth certificate, Obama is a Muslim, Obama hates America, and other nonsense that distract us from the fact that Obama has taken some actions that are real and do seriously harm America. Read this:
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2014/03/03
I will be interested in your comments.
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2014/03/03
I will be interested in your comments.
False charges? What evidence? Obama won't allow the release of evidence! If there was nothing to the charges made against him, why does he hide everything? Fast & Furious...Obama used an Executive Order to stop the investigation? His Birth Certificate...a proven fake, as is his Social Security number, and Selective Service Card. Show is the evidence you claim that will refute what has already been proven by experts?
Mar 10, 2014 07:47:15 #
Glaucon wrote:
There are so many false charges against Obama that are easily refuted with evidence: Benghazi, the IRS thing, Obama's birth certificate, Obama is a Muslim, Obama hates America, and other nonsense that distract us from the fact that Obama has taken some actions that are real and do seriously harm America. Read this:
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2014/03/03
I will be interested in your comments.
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2014/03/03
I will be interested in your comments.
Maybe he breached international law or maybe not, I'm not an expert in that subject and really have no opinion, but it seems to me that using drones or anything else to target the enemies of the U.S. is probably part of his job.
As far as the birth certificate thing, I believe it is fake there are a lot of questions that remain unanswered about it, but it is a mute point and will never result in any prosecution.
As far as Benghazi, if he didn't cover up the attack, then he is at best incompetent.. He should have known better than it being a video that caused it. If he didn't, then he is a worst idiot than originally thought.
The IRS targeting scandal is probably the most provable of the three. There is a paper trail that is being rapidly and thoroughly destroyed, and Lois Lerner is at the center of it. It will come out someday that he knew about it and authorized it, but not until he is long out of office and probably dead from old age..
Just look at the list, how can any one person be so naive that is in the oval office. I don't think incompetence rises to that level. It is unreasonable to assume that all of this is just made up.
Mar 10, 2014 08:27:07 #
Glaucon wrote:
There are so many false charges against Obama that are easily refuted with evidence: Benghazi, the IRS thing, Obama's birth certificate, Obama is a Muslim, Obama hates America, and other nonsense that distract us from the fact that Obama has taken some actions that are real and do seriously harm America. Read this:
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2014/03/03
I will be interested in your comments.
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2014/03/03
I will be interested in your comments.
A man's character and his word depicts the kind of person he is inside...If he has no character then his word isn't worth a darn - anything he does, is totally meaningless.
To me... and possibly ONLY to me... when Obama was too lazy to walk a few steps more when he was in college to keep from getting a jillion parking tickets which he had 'no intentions' of paying... shows the Character of the man. Only when he WANTED something did he go and pay them.. otherwise.. they would have remained unpaid.
When a man deceives the people of the country he lives in... by having a SS number from a State he never resided in... tells me volumes. When a man can get up before the world and say... "If you like you plan... you can keep your plan... PERIOD... If you like your Doctor.. you can keep your Doctor... PERIOD... knowing full well that was a LIE..... there goes his Character!!!!
If a man has no Character... again ----- his worth/word is meaningless... let alone the country he resides in other that what he can achieve through lies, betrayals, and insincerity... If you can't believe any part of what he is reading from his tele-prompter [[which he can't speak without words written for him]].....what good is he to anyone? He's not the magical speaker everyone says he is... he stutters, stammers and pauses constantly when not reading from it.
A man who bought a mansion for millions... yet doesn't even have his name on the deed, but has 3 other names.... thus avoiding paying the taxes on it... Nor does he ever vacation there either..... Why??? What's he hiding? Is he waiting to become so famous he can sell it later and get jillions from it then? Probably !!!! A 'shyster' comes to mind here ~ !
He's a man on a mission.... 'his mission'... one of deceit and greed. How can you trust a liar? How can one trust one who campaigns constantly... how can you trust one who lies every time he opens his mouth.... how can you trust one who spends millions of taxpayers money on 'failed projects'.... how can you trust one who doesn't want to stay in the Oval Office -- who does no work yet collects $400,000 plus expenses a year to circle the globe spreading his cheer.
He was furnished a BRAND NEW limo... costing millions .... a brand new ultra reinforced bus, and is furnished with a non stop plane flying all over the globe... one who flies his barber from Chicago to cut his curly locks every two weeks... who has extremely lavish parties at the White House while the country suffers... and who had rather play golf than sit in the 'Chair' he won for 8 years... and one who has raised spending in 5 short years more than Bush did in 8 years.... His greed hath no limit....His character is flawed as well as anything that comes out of his mouth... yet no one seems to care who they put in the White House as long as he gives them things.... Obama is their RobinHood via the Government's purse... if it came out of his pocket... they wouldn't be getting a thing!!!
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