karpenter,
karpenter you happened to be confused, what you read in the post article, and have lost all Protestant religious understanding of what the Eucharist is.
What the ancient Manna that fed the Hebrew-Isralite people for 40 years and the significance of the Jewish Passover, in Jerusalem and the passover meal on Holy Thursday celebrated by Jesus and the 12 Apostles.
Tell me what's wrong with you, is your blind hatred that apparent, that you spew forth nonsense.
You have Protestant derangement syndrome . . . similar to Trump syndrome by the left leaning democrats, a have a knee jerk reaction to anything I post.
You and like other similar rabid Protestant members on the OPP forum have a sickness e.g. Protestant derangement syndrome on the OPP Forum.
You really need to chill out, and take a step back, and end this anti-Catholic rhetoric.
So what's wrong with you ? And your incoherent fractional thinking, nonsense and religious ramblings . . .
a. You lost the significance of Old Testament Jewish tradition, passover celebration meal, Hebrew-Israelite "Angel of death Passover" and lambs blood, their freedom with God's help.
b. You lost the significance of God's Manna that came down from heaven that sustained the Hebrew-Israelite for 40 years in the desert.
c. You lost the significance of what Jesus Christ said.
"I am the living bread that came down from heaven. Whoever eats this bread will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I
will give for the life of the world.” John 6: 51
d. You lost the significance of what Jesus Christ said.
Jesus said, This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your ancestors ate manna and died, but whoever feeds on this bread
will live forever.” John 6: 58
f. You lost the significance of the Eucharist and what Jesus said.
“Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. John 6: 53
You lost your Protestant composure and the significance in your Protestant arrogance and hatred of anything Catholic, you're just an angry Protestant wolf lashing out anyway you can.
How sad, What a pitiful soul you are, Ill pray for you, to cleanse your evil heart intentions.
karpenter all I ask in the future and request, from you, is to be truthful, and provide facts to answer your comments, and not some preconceived opinions about what you think the Catholic Church teaches.
That you truly, answer with actual Christian Protestant Church facts, or try to the best of your ability, to answer with Christian questions.
This is not an attack on Protestant Christians or your faith, it is a method of understanding our Christian faiths and different understandings of Religion.
karpenter, You and other Protestant OPP Forum members seem to get things wrong, like TexaCan, jack sequim wa, mwdegutis.
The Catholic Church is not the enemy.
Their current behavior and actions is reprehensible attacking the Catholic Church as Pagan and is a religious Cult and attacking me personally.
All they are showing to readers is their narrow mindedness, religious bigotry, religious prejudice and intolerance, comes to mind, more than anything else.
It's almost like an alcoholic or drug addict that needs a religious spiritual intervention.
Many Protestants on this OPP Forum have a very similar attitude and political intolerance as the left wing Democrat party, and their snow-flake derangement syndrome behavior to President Trump. And Trumps masterful campaign slogan "Make America Great Again. What Good Americans, wouldn't want this.
Dare I say it again, Protestant Anti-Catholic intolerance of 500 years and present day snow-flake derangement syndrome behavior. With anti-Catholic misconceived negative sentiments and thinking and say these hateful words, Pagan and is a religious Cult and attacking me personally. .
Protestants don't know or understand the consequences of their hatful speech, and don't think about their actions when calling Catholic Church Pagan and religious cult.
They just think nothing of it, and think they can get away with their anti-Catholic behavior, it's a stereotypical attitude an total double-standard rhetoric and is just pure religious hypocrisy and it's Christian disingenuous.
Protestants don't know or want to know, The Catholic Church has a somewhat complete different and foreign understanding of the Bible than Protestants.
That's because the Catholic Church has 19 centuries or 1,986 years of tradition, biblical scripture history and countless Vatican libraries of Church documents and books to draw upon.
Catholics have a different teaching theology than from Protestants because: e.g.
a. Church Liturgy and teaching,
b. The High Mass Worship vs. the Protestant low Mass,
c. The 7 Sacraments instated by Jesus Christ,
d. Church Governorship or Hierarchy,
e. Papal and Church authority,
f. Traditional and Oral Heritage,
g. 1,986 years of Church cannon instruction and teaching,
The list goes on and on and on.
Many main-line Protestant Churches may only have 500 years of Church history, formation and some present day churches, may have only one year theology and formation due to the 30,000 Protestant Church, fractious divisional aspects and different theologies of Protestant Churches.
Most times they are lucky to get along with themselves, let alone their hated preconceived notions of anti-Catholic Church thoughts and beliefs.
They fight amongst themselves . . .
Mostly its plain Religious ignorance and intolerance and not picking up a book or getting information on the Internet to understand the religious differences.
a. In your answers and comments, please stay on the subject and answer the question at hand,
b. Don't start diverting away from the subject or different tangents of answering the Post Article, and please try not get into too many word semantics discussions.
c. If you don't know something, or don't understand the definition-terminology or Christian theology concept, it's okay to tell me, I don't know the answer.
d. Please don't get so defensive to the question that I ask.
Tell me something, karpenter, What is your Christian background and Christian roots and history ?
How many different churches have you attended and belonged to and what is the present name and affiliation of the Church that you belong to.
Do you have a Pastor, Minister or are they ordained ?
I genuinely and sincerely would like to know, as to your Christian knowledge and Christian education and religious vocational-up brining ?
Or is your Christian up-bringing, is self-taught ?
Kapenter,
I'm a life long cradle-Catholic, and have a well rounded understanding and am knowledgeable about the Bible and own five bibles.
Have many books and digital resources material, the Catholic Catechism, Catholic Apologetics, Cannon Law.
Am an avid reader of the Early Church Fathers their documents pass down, through the centuries and of current Catholic books articles and documents.
Getting back to the OPP Post Article and your response and comment.
Because karpenter, I don't know whether to laugh or cry right now, after reading your comment and your lack of understanding as to what the Post article question actually said.
Passover, Manna and the Eucharist. Your not on alcohol or drugs are you ? Or taking Pycotrophic mind anxiety drugs are you ?
Do you even understand the Article's question and the intention of what I asked you about the Holy Eucharist Sacraments precepts, and your unintelligent answer and comment ?
Tell me something karpenter, why do Protestants Christians never truthfully answer a Catholic Christian question, and always get evasive to the answer and blindly come up with a biblical scriptural passage. ? And think they have answered the question ?
This is not a trick question or "Got-Ya" answer to the question.
"Do you follow Holy Eucharist Sacrament Precepts," ? Or is It Just A Meer Protestantism Symbolism ?
So please try your best to answer the questions that I ask.
Really think about this karpenter, pray and discern about when you receiving the Holy Eucharist at mass communion.
1. karpenter, What is the actual significance of what Jesus Christ taught, commanded. Jesus actual teaching on the Sacrament the Holy Eucharist ?
2. karpenter, Do you understand Jesus Christ's "God's" new and everlasting and final sacrificial paschal covenant and Christian significance of the Eucharist sacrifice ?
3. karpenter, Do you understand what Jesus, the institution of the Holy Sacrament of the Eucharist, that Jesus commanded all Christians perform ?
karpenter, really I think you should pray and then sleep on this question before answering the question again.
4. karpenter, where is your Christian education foundation in your beliefs on Holy Communion the Eucharist ? And the actual teachings of Jesus Christ on this subject ?
5. What were Jesus Christ actual instruction and teaching on the Eucharist, to his 12 Apostles teaching, the Early Church Patristic Fathers Teaching, by the teachings Popes, Bishops,
Priests, Deacons Monks and Friars and so forth ?
6. karpenter, what was the significance of the Holy Eucharist (Body and Blood) his "soul and divinity," and the Sacramental precepts when you receive the Lord at communion ?
Myself included and Catholics OPP Forum readers and most Christians, "can-not" conceive and have a hard time, understanding your response to the article title: e.g.
karpenter, Do you follow and understand the Sacrament of the Holy Eucharist and precepts ? Or is It Just A Meer Protestantism Symbolism ?
7. karpenter, Are you feeling Christian morally well, and have the mental capacity to understand the basic Christian concept, the Christian theology and doctrinal significance of the
Holy Eucharist instituted by Jesus Christ ?
8. karpenter, do you understand, this is a true Human sacrifice by Our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ and the omission of sins and why Jesus reason to save all people of their sins ?
9. karpenter, do you understand, the Eucharist sacrifice during the mass and what we receive at communion, "Is-Not the same animal sacrifice in the Jewish temple in Jerusalem of
Jesus 1st century.
The Jewish people can-not perform and offer a sin-animal sacrifice any more hence it's a dead religion as was the Pharaoh religion practiced by the Egyptians when his first born son died it became a dead religion.
10. karpenter, Do you know and understand the significance of Hebrew and Israelite and priestly sin-Animal sacrifices at the Jewish temples ?
The Eucharist has no analogy or anything to do with the Old Testament Israelites-Jewish peoples or about the "Angel of death-Passover" and the Jewish sadder meal and "Lamb Sacrifice" by Moses and the ten plagues committed by God on the Egyptian Pharaoh and Egyptian people.
Other than that Jesus Christ was the most pure sacrifice or was the innocent paschal jewish sacrifice, Because Jesus was Jewish, and the sin's of one persons would save all the Jewish people. This is what the Scribes, the Pharisee, the Sadducees and the Jewish High priest thought and practiced.
11. Tell me something karpenter, what you know, of the Gods instructions to Moses and Arron, from the Torah the "Book of Exodus" and how God command the Jewish people to
commemorate the "Angel of death" Passover ?
Thats what the historical roots of the Passover is and is still commemorated by the Jewish and is about their freedom.
12. And karpenter, what is the significance of sacrifice of lamb's blood on the lentil door beam, as the "Angel of death" "Passover" the the Hebrew-Israelite people in the Land of
Egypt roughly in 1,550 B.C. ?
13. Karpenter, In the New Testament Gospels; e.g. Matthew, Mark, Luke, John and Acts of the Apostles. Can you tell me what the paschal sacrifice is of the Christian mass is ?
14. Karpenter, what is the significance of the gospels and Eucharist remembered and commemorated during the Christian Mass ?
15. Karpenter, what is the significance and difference of the Last supper of Jesus Christ on Holy Thursday and the Jewish Passover celebration practiced by Jews? Jesus was a Jew !
16. karpenter, so what is the analogy of the Manna from heaven in the Old Testament and what Jesus said: "Then Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will
never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty."
John 6:35
17. So karpenter, in your reply and comment are you Protestant religiously schizophrenic ?
karpenter, because when you say one thing e.g. "As Long As We All Realize This Communion Commemorates The
Passover, Which Is
What It Is Then We're Doing It Right.
karpenter, then you say, the complete opposite statement: e.g. And say, "And Has Zero To Do With The Passover."
karpenter, Duhhh, what's wrong with you, and your protestant religious Christian thinking . . . Have you lost your mind ? Can't you read what I posted ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
Karpenter, the Last Super discourse and the beginning of Jesus institution of the Sacrament of the Eucharist began here while they celebrated the jewish passover.
karpenter you are confused what you read and have lost all religious understanding. On the Jewish passover celebration is,
Since Jesus was a practicing Jew, and the 12 Apostles were all Jews, and it was the historical time in Jerusalem to celebrate the Passover.
It was the Hebrew-Israelites calendar tine to celebrate the Jewish passover and festival commemorating the traditional Seder meal of the Jewish peoples freedom from the Egyptians and the "Angel of death Passover"
karpenter wrote:
As Long As We All Realize This Communion Commemorates The Passover, Which Is What It Is Then We're Doing It Right
Why Do You Post All That
You Think We've Never Read Any Of It ??
Manna Has Nothing To Do With Anything
If They Hadn't Fallen Away With The Gold Calf Idolatry
They Wouldn't Have Had To Wander For 40yrs
And The Manna Would Have Been Un-Neccessary
Hey, Preach-Up About The Water Springing From Rocks Too
Because That Falls Under The Same Heading As The Manna
And Has Zero To Do With The Passover
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