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Sep 3, 2018 08:39:22   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
permafrost wrote:
You make an unending string of dumb conclusions..

the pay 95% quote is about income taxes, not the dozens of other taxes we taxpayer have to pay..

Your failure to look beyond the present day for the outcome of the tax cut bewilders me..

Do you not care about tomorrow? what about the years ahead, the things you think you need to live a nice life..

Plan now, with the expectation that you will be paying the huge national debt and gift to the rich and orange..

FYI---I feel no jealousy for anyone, except maybe all those young ones who are wasting all the energy and health..

As an old geezer, I did plan my retiring and though it was sooner then that plan, I am quite comfortable and have not money problems and little to whine about other then boredom..
You make an unending string of dumb conclusions.. ... (show quote)



Frosty, you leftists would be better served to look past your hating of the rich and start going after the non-producing, unelected federal employees who are sucking up most of the tax money. Any idea how you would make progressive the gas tax, sales tax, beer tax, etc? The drumbeat of "tax the rich" is so stupid.

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Sep 3, 2018 09:01:10   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
Frosty, you leftists would be better served to look past your hating of the rich and start going after the non-producing, unelected federal employees who are sucking up most of the tax money. Any idea how you would make progressive the gas tax, sales tax, beer tax, etc? The drumbeat of "tax the rich" is so stupid.




which do you think is more pro-american?

A national health care plan so everyone is covered or a gift of tons of cash and power for 10% of the population??

Gas tax, sales tax, are regressive. Beer tax.. Ooooh no one would ever do that, would they.. OOh, the inhumanity..

Sales tax can be very unfair depending on how it is structured.. if it includes item which are not compleatley optional, they should be tossed out..

Gas tax is necessary but should be, as originally intended, limited to use on our roads and highways..

As alternative fuels become more used, we will start to see more demands for user tax.. so if you buy an electric car to reduce fossil footprint, you will have to pay yet another new tax..



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Sep 3, 2018 09:15:21   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
permafrost wrote:
which do you think is more pro-american?

A national health care plan so everyone is covered or a gift of tons of cash and power for 10% of the population??

Gas tax, sales tax, are regressive. Beer tax.. Ooooh no one would ever do that, would they.. OOh, the inhumanity..

Sales tax can be very unfair depending on how it is structured.. if it includes item which are not compleatley optional, they should be tossed out..

Gas tax is necessary but should be, as originally intended, limited to use on our roads and highways..

As alternative fuels become more used, we will start to see more demands for user tax.. so if you buy an electric car to reduce fossil footprint, you will have to pay yet another new tax..
which do you think is more pro-american? br br ... (show quote)



You are intent on proposing only the questions you would like. BTW, have you stopped beating your wife? Why don't you just admit that re-distribution of wealth is your ultimate goal? You just can't handle the fact that in a capitalistic economy some people are going to get rich. The poor people in this Country are, on average, better off than the wealthiest in socialistic countries. Leftists think that tearing down the wealthy is the way to build up the poor instead of encouraging entrepreneurship as a way of providing more jobs for those who need them, thereby giving them the opportunity to build up their own wealth.

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Sep 3, 2018 10:11:36   #
debeda
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
You are intent on proposing only the questions you would like. BTW, have you stopped beating your wife? Why don't you just admit that re-distribution of wealth is your ultimate goal? You just can't handle the fact that in a capitalistic economy some people are going to get rich. The poor people in this Country are, on average, better off than the wealthiest in socialistic countries. Leftists think that tearing down the wealthy is the way to build up the poor instead of encouraging entrepreneurship as a way of providing more jobs for those who need them, thereby giving them the opportunity to build up their own wealth.
You are intent on proposing only the questions you... (show quote)


Well said

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Sep 3, 2018 10:14:02   #
CDM Loc: Florida
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
You are intent on proposing only the questions you would like. BTW, have you stopped beating your wife? Why don't you just admit that re-distribution of wealth is your ultimate goal? You just can't handle the fact that in a capitalistic economy some people are going to get rich. The poor people in this Country are, on average, better off than the wealthiest in socialistic countries. Leftists think that tearing down the wealthy is the way to build up the poor instead of encouraging entrepreneurship as a way of providing more jobs for those who need them, thereby giving them the opportunity to build up their own wealth.
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Bernie; Well said. Albeit, looking at the exchange so far you may as well be arguing with a toilet.

I believe the concept of America has never had an opportunity to really soar because of the Leftist Democrat ball and chain around it's ankle for the past 150 years. I will take the liberty to expand on your observations here;

I believe the ultimate goal of Leftism in the United States - which is a unique form of Leftism that can only be employed here - is ABSOLUTE CONTROL OF ALL HUMAN ACTIVITY cradle to grave. The primary weapons in their arsenal to achieve this goal are racism, redistribution of wealth, a strangle hold on health care, environmental terrorism and the elimination of the 1st and 2nd amendments. Today we see these weapons turned on us in all out assault on our Republic 24/7/365.

While we as individuals make distinctions and decisions no true Leftist can admit any good associated with capitalism and therefore by association, with America; a concept they despise. They are conditioned to regurgitate the Party Line, nothing more or less. No thought required.

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Sep 3, 2018 10:20:42   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
CDM wrote:
Bernie; Well said. Albeit, looking at the exchange so far you may as well be arguing with a toilet.

I believe the concept of America has never had an opportunity to really soar because of the Leftist Democrat ball and chain around it's ankle for the past 150 years. I will take the liberty to expand on your observations here;

I believe the ultimate goal of Leftism in the United States - which is a unique form of Leftism that can only be employed here - is ABSOLUTE CONTROL OF ALL HUMAN ACTIVITY cradle to grave. The primary weapons in their arsenal to achieve this goal are racism, redistribution of wealth, a strangle hold on health care, environmental terrorism and the elimination of the 1st and 2nd amendments. Today we see these weapons turned on us in all out assault on our Republic 24/7/365.

While we as individuals make distinctions and decisions no true Leftist can admit any good associated with capitalism and therefore by association, with America; a concept they despise. They are conditioned to regurgitate the Party Line, nothing more or less. No thought required.
Bernie; Well said. Albeit, looking at the exchan... (show quote)


You and Bernie are spot on the left wants complete control and one of the major problems there are many that have no problem with that as it makes their life so much easier for someone else to do their thinking for them and swallow all their talking points !

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Sep 3, 2018 10:21:51   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
CDM wrote:
Bernie; Well said. Albeit, looking at the exchange so far you may as well be arguing with a toilet.

I believe the concept of America has never had an opportunity to really soar because of the Leftist Democrat ball and chain around it's ankle for the past 150 years. I will take the liberty to expand on your observations here;

I believe the ultimate goal of Leftism in the United States - which is a unique form of Leftism that can only be employed here - is ABSOLUTE CONTROL OF ALL HUMAN ACTIVITY cradle to grave. The primary weapons in their arsenal to achieve this goal are racism, redistribution of wealth, a strangle hold on health care, environmental terrorism and the elimination of the 1st and 2nd amendments. Today we see these weapons turned on us in all out assault on our Republic 24/7/365.

While we as individuals make distinctions and decisions no true Leftist can admit any good associated with capitalism and therefore by association, with America; a concept they despise. They are conditioned to regurgitate the Party Line, nothing more or less. No thought required.
Bernie; Well said. Albeit, looking at the exchan... (show quote)



Totally agree, CDM. Bahmer put up earlier a short video that is instructive on Leftists & Liberals: https://youtu.be/tlIjMJBSnRE

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Sep 3, 2018 10:46:08   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Super Dave wrote:
Trump is POTUS, not lord of America. State and local governments have much to do with your area by design.

Trump cant make your neighbors stop voting Democrat.
My nieghbors are 75% Trump voters according to county elections.. We all wanted to get rid of rules and regulations mainly because our timber industry has been badly curtailed. Trump told people what they wanted to hear.

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Sep 3, 2018 11:30:53   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
My nieghbors are 75% Trump voters according to county elections.. We all wanted to get rid of rules and regulations mainly because our timber industry has been badly curtailed. Trump told people what they wanted to hear.


Nothing wrong with getting rid of costly and burdensome rules and regs to get jobs and people back to work and it worked if those that hate Trump so bad would open their eyes to the fact !

One only has to look at what what the economy is doing now a days and look at the unemployment rate drop for all Americans as well as the Black and Hispanic groups more folks off welfare and into jobs !

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Sep 3, 2018 12:44:09   #
CDM Loc: Florida
 
4430 wrote:
You and Bernie are spot on the left wants complete control and one of the major problems there are many that have no problem with that as it makes their life so much easier for someone else to do their thinking for them and swallow all their talking points !



"it makes their life so much easier". 44, this is probably more profound than you realize in this context. This is a foundational element of Leftism; individual thought is criminal; all thought must be identical; the collective will provide; don't worry, be happy ... Therefore it follows ... it is EASY TO BE LEFTIST ... someone else will do the thinking and the PRODUCING for you. Support the collective and you will get your fair share of the distribution. For those Americans who still subscribe to the ostrich philosophy that 'it can never happen here,' I suggest they take a look at the now largest generation after 40 years of indoctrination in our usurped public school system; cowed followers ... Eloy.

To be fair, not all Democrats are Leftists. That notwithstanding, all Leftists are Democrats hence Americas number one enemy is the Democrat Party. As the man said, "America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves."

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Sep 3, 2018 12:47:03   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
permafrost wrote:
which do you think is more pro-american?

A national health care plan so everyone is covered or a gift of tons of cash and power for 10% of the population??

Gas tax, sales tax, are regressive. Beer tax.. Ooooh no one would ever do that, would they.. OOh, the inhumanity..

Sales tax can be very unfair depending on how it is structured.. if it includes item which are not compleatley optional, they should be tossed out..

Gas tax is necessary but should be, as originally intended, limited to use on our roads and highways..

As alternative fuels become more used, we will start to see more demands for user tax.. so if you buy an electric car to reduce fossil footprint, you will have to pay yet another new tax..
which do you think is more pro-american? br br ... (show quote)
Freedom is pro-American.

Socialism is not.

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Sep 3, 2018 13:07:36   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
You are intent on proposing only the questions you would like. BTW, have you stopped beating your wife? Why don't you just admit that re-distribution of wealth is your ultimate goal? You just can't handle the fact that in a capitalistic economy some people are going to get rich. The poor people in this Country are, on average, better off than the wealthiest in socialistic countries. Leftists think that tearing down the wealthy is the way to build up the poor instead of encouraging entrepreneurship as a way of providing more jobs for those who need them, thereby giving them the opportunity to build up their own wealth.
You are intent on proposing only the questions you... (show quote)




Of course you are wrong.. Liberal want equal opportunity.. we do not expect equal outcome nor do we want to strip the wealth from anyone. we do however want the rich to pay according the the benefits they receive from
our government..

What good does it do the poor people to be compared to a 3rd world country? They do not live there, they live in the US, a very wealthy country which means a high cost of living.

Would you feel good to compare our poor people with one of the oil rich actions? Saudi Arabia maybe?

Redistribution of wealth, tearing down the rich??? where do you people get this crap? Glenn Beck?

As I said, they, i am sure would be very happy with equal opportunity.. Of course not all would get rich, any more then all of get rich. Only a real chance to do so..

Love this photo of my direct ancestor..Boris Bluetooth...
Love this photo of my direct ancestor..Boris Bluet...

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Sep 3, 2018 13:10:30   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
4430 wrote:
Nothing wrong with getting rid of costly and burdensome rules and regs to get jobs and people back to work and it worked if those that hate Trump so bad would open their eyes to the fact !

One only has to look at what what the economy is doing now a days and look at the unemployment rate drop for all Americans as well as the Black and Hispanic groups more folks off welfare and into jobs !




Yea amazing job, he started at 4.1% and dropped it down to 3.9% now it is back to 4%

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Sep 3, 2018 13:13:10   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Super Dave wrote:
Freedom is pro-American.

Socialism is not.




You and yours keep ranting about Socialism... Name some Socialist programs that have harmed you or me. or even exist...



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Sep 3, 2018 13:15:35   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
4430 wrote:
Nothing wrong with getting rid of costly and burdensome rules and regs to get jobs and people back to work and it worked if those that hate Trump so bad would open their eyes to the fact !

One only has to look at what what the economy is doing now a days and look at the unemployment rate drop for all Americans as well as the Black and Hispanic groups more folks off welfare and into jobs !




trouble #1 with censorship of any sort... Who gets to decide what regs are burdensome and what rules are needed?



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