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Mar 7, 2014 16:18:44   #
bobgssc
 
ginnyt wrote:
The true mistake was it appearing on the receipt. It should have been an increase in the cost of merchandize and therefore obscured from public view. Those who are obligated to pay the tax are passing on their shortfalls to distribution points, those business ordinarily pass on the cost to the customer. This is just simple bus 101. You know, I am always surprised when people do not realize this and take it into consideration when they think they are getting something for nothing. Medical care is not free, taxes on everything is paying for it. Free gifts from your cable provider is not free, they are passing the cost on to existing customers. Frequent flyer miles are not free, all those folks that fly pay for those miles in increased air fares. Nothing is free!!!!
The true mistake was it appearing on the receipt. ... (show quote)


The actual mistake was Cabelas charging it... they misunderstood that this tax was supposed to be on the manufacturer so there would be no way we could find out... simple as that. And, since a fishing rod isn't a medical device, it appears the actual amount is 10% not 2.3%.

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Mar 7, 2014 16:42:22   #
Constitutional libertarian Loc: St Croix National Scenic River Way
 
Kevyn wrote:
This is not a tax on medical devices and has nothing to do with the ACA it is rather an existing tax on imported and manufactured goods. If the ACA is so bad why is it that the vast majority of complaints about the act are false?


Kevyn, please for your own good stop drinking the coolaid. Do you think Mr Harry Reid has followed up on and personally researched every single person's claim that they have been harmed by the ACA. If he hasn't then he can not make the claim that they are all lies.

I am going to look into the Cabala's question and find the truth. I am a Cabala's card member so it shouldn't be to tough to find out. I should have a couple of receipts sitting at home.

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Mar 7, 2014 16:54:57   #
Redstate
 
With Nancy Pelosi’s “…..we need to pass the Health Care Bill so you can find out what’s in it” infamous remark, I would not be surprised as to the number of ways this ACA monster has in mind for funding itself, but lets not make it worse by propagating what is now an “urban-legend.”

Cabela's and other stores mistakenly applied the medical excise taxes to some purchases made on 1 January 2013 and was corrected the next day. The error came from an accounting software upgrade that is done annually to accommodate for changes in the new year’s tax laws.

The medical excise tax was incorporated with the pre-existing excise tax applicable only to manufacturers, producers, or importers of sport fishing equipment, archery equipment, tires, coal, and gas guzzlers, etc. In other words it added the tax to medical devices “not generally purchased by the general public at retail for individual use."

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Mar 7, 2014 17:43:33   #
rodulfo-tardo
 
Cannot overlook the other medical devices, included are tooth brushes, paste, and mouthwash, if the insurance companies would be honest and declare how much car, home, business increases are directly caused by this medical device tax, there would be a better understanding of the collectivist single party state, this Fascist Supremacist state, where these taxes may just be a part of the shariah mandated dhimmi taxes for non-Muslims, since by the numbers the U.S.A., is in spite of the 2009 speech in Turkey, when Emir Obama declared this country was no longer a "Jewish and Christian" country, within months the head of the Muslim Brotherhood, based in Geneva had his visa reinstated by Obama and his bitch Hillary, whose husband had first put Tariq Ramadan, is charge of Arab Affairs, you can see what the results were, from the first W.T.C. attack, Somalia the Embassies in Africa, very similar dynamics to Benghazi, but mostly it is the Arab/Revolt/Spring, the cause for this Ukranian Crimean stalemate, in 1933 Hitler imposed a non Aryan tax, along with the ability to 'buy' Aryan certificates, for wealthy Jews, a brilliant Taqiyya [deception in sharia] it lasted until the Nazi Haj moved to Berlin in November 1941, this was also the point at which, the Semites became only Jews the term applied to both Hebrew and Arabs, but was changed to isolate the two.
The A.C.A., has nothing to do with health, it is the most effective way to use the fear of health and the loss of medical care, medical extortion or lack thereof, this was another 'hidden fact' the N.S.D.A.P., used to gain control, the Nazis used healthcare, as the principal issue of the Nazi Party platform, it was the first time medicine was used as a political policy promissory note, this only works in 'industrialized societies, modern 'health conscious' modern industrialized ones.
The Reich Physician Chamber 1935, was an experimental phase of the "racial hygiene" as the 'social martial law' it successfully created separate "Medical Distinctions" within the geopolitical spectrum, it was the ultimate source of information, there were specific questions that had no medical reason to exist, the German Medical Profession, became the closest thing to the N.S.A., during the formative growth spurts of the Third Reich's Total Government, the subdivisions of information had classified the 'patients' by class, income, political beliefs and affiliation, the personal habits, religion, moral beliefs and most importantly 'party affiliation' this insured a biological hygiene of politically dependent recipients, it was the "value free" aspect this 'medical insurance' guaranteed, eventually as you can see here, it was able intimidate the 'target audience' but the actual purpose was to isolate by 'racial hygiene' the political 'malcontents' and those whose defined medical conditions are based on how their disagreement indicates some 'racist or mental human case of distemper' such as Republicans, Conservatives, Hebrews and Christians, with Catholics running at the 'neutral' speed of "morally conflicted" due to their guilt from pedophile priests, this is obvious with the current Pope, who is torn between socialist redundancy and reality, his fundamental transformation of the Vatican, will have the same results as the "hopeless change" caliphate, who ran under the name "Rainbow Coalition" the same name the N.S.D.A.P., used in their 1928 Nazi Party campaign, "racial hygiene" made the separation of women, religion, and the key, political affiliations as a prerequisite to acceptance. "Free from any religious or political influences"[Society of Racial Hygiene 1933] this was exemplary, considering it is exactly what the A.C.A. does, it makes any difference of opinion a punishable offense. These malcontents are classified an 'inferior' subjects, whether religious, political or those who believe the 'traditional' as the free market cannot be accepted by the Fascist state.
The 'connective' tissue here is where this money went, the Third Reich used this income to fund their rearmament race, it did not take long to realize the Reich Physician Chamber, had a very dominant requirement, membership in the Nazi Party, was the prerequisite, Total Government eventually must find a common enemy at first this is an abstract entity, for the Nazis it was the superior races over the 'inferior' threats of the mentally ill, physically defective, and eventually the Jews.
Obama has achieved this metric, the 'inferior' are Republicans, Conservatives and the rich, but lets not forget the 'racists' that oppose Obama, and his useless time buying policies to create the 'vacuum' of chaotic anarchic 'social segregation' the Obama "hygiene of race, religion, and political affiliation" not that much different, essentially the same narrative until the Total Fascist State finds it necessary to create a State of Total War, in my nightmares, the real possibility is so close, with the Gulf States breaking off diplomatic relations with Qatar, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has declared the Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist organization, where does this place the United States, when Obama has inserted these Fascist Supremacist Islamojihadis, in every position of this government without any background checks, the security of the nation in the hands of the corporate headquarters of Al'Qaeda, the BrotherHoods.
The Arab/Spring/Revolt against the Islamic Secular States, this has introduced the Political Eugenics of the Total Fascist state, in reference to nightmares, imagine what a state of retribution may bring once this 'resident' has his bluff called, will he retreat?
Suspension of elections the Constitution and freedom of speech, can be 'legislated' by decree, it is a benefit of the "Emergency Powers" his rule by decree, an equivalent to the dictatorial powers given Hitler by that Enabling Act in 1933, before he dissolved the Republic and suspended the Constitution, like Mursy in Egypt, another BrotherHood.
Research the taxes levied on the Christian in Iraq, as well as Egypt before the ouster of Mursy, by referendum not a military coup d' e'tat, the same was the case for Libya and Syria's secular state was saved by Putin's interference in reminding NATO of their violation of international law, when the strike against Libya, turned the region to 'civil war' mostly against the shariah imposition of the Muslim Brotherhood.
Luckily for me, my fishing equipment was bought before this 'dhimmi' was imposed with enough fly rods to last me and two lifetimes, it will be necessary to use wire leaders so as not to pay anything to the A.C.A. dhimmi tax on saltwater stainless hooks, but then again remember there will be more restrictions on fishing, hunting and anything not related to the shariaiism of the Al' Obamah Caliphate.

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Mar 7, 2014 17:55:51   #
Constitutional libertarian Loc: St Croix National Scenic River Way
 
rodulfo-tardo wrote:
Cannot overlook the other medical devices, included are tooth brushes, paste, and mouthwash, if the insurance companies would be honest and declare how much car, home, business increases are directly caused by this medical device tax, there would be a better understanding of the collectivist single party state, this Fascist Supremacist state, where these taxes may just be a part of the shariah mandated dhimmi taxes for non-Muslims, since by the numbers the U.S.A., is in spite of the 2009 speech in Turkey, when Emir Obama declared this country was no longer a "Jewish and Christian" country, within months the head of the Muslim Brotherhood, based in Geneva had his visa reinstated by Obama and his bitch Hillary, whose husband had first put Tariq Ramadan, is charge of Arab Affairs, you can see what the results were, from the first W.T.C. attack, Somalia the Embassies in Africa, very similar dynamics to Benghazi, but mostly it is the Arab/Revolt/Spring, the cause for this Ukranian Crimean stalemate, in 1933 Hitler imposed a non Aryan tax, along with the ability to 'buy' Aryan certificates, for wealthy Jews, a brilliant Taqiyya [deception in sharia] it lasted until the Nazi Haj moved to Berlin in November 1941, this was also the point at which, the Semites became only Jews the term applied to both Hebrew and Arabs, but was changed to isolate the two.
The A.C.A., has nothing to do with health, it is the most effective way to use the fear of health and the loss of medical care, medical extortion or lack thereof, this was another 'hidden fact' the N.S.D.A.P., used to gain control, the Nazis used healthcare, as the principal issue of the Nazi Party platform, it was the first time medicine was used as a political policy promissory note, this only works in 'industrialized societies, modern 'health conscious' modern industrialized ones.
The Reich Physician Chamber 1935, was an experimental phase of the "racial hygiene" as the 'social martial law' it successfully created separate "Medical Distinctions" within the geopolitical spectrum, it was the ultimate source of information, there were specific questions that had no medical reason to exist, the German Medical Profession, became the closest thing to the N.S.A., during the formative growth spurts of the Third Reich's Total Government, the subdivisions of information had classified the 'patients' by class, income, political beliefs and affiliation, the personal habits, religion, moral beliefs and most importantly 'party affiliation' this insured a biological hygiene of politically dependent recipients, it was the "value free" aspect this 'medical insurance' guaranteed, eventually as you can see here, it was able intimidate the 'target audience' but the actual purpose was to isolate by 'racial hygiene' the political 'malcontents' and those whose defined medical conditions are based on how their disagreement indicates some 'racist or mental human case of distemper' such as Republicans, Conservatives, Hebrews and Christians, with Catholics running at the 'neutral' speed of "morally conflicted" due to their guilt from pedophile priests, this is obvious with the current Pope, who is torn between socialist redundancy and reality, his fundamental transformation of the Vatican, will have the same results as the "hopeless change" caliphate, who ran under the name "Rainbow Coalition" the same name the N.S.D.A.P., used in their 1928 Nazi Party campaign, "racial hygiene" made the separation of women, religion, and the key, political affiliations as a prerequisite to acceptance. "Free from any religious or political influences"[Society of Racial Hygiene 1933] this was exemplary, considering it is exactly what the A.C.A. does, it makes any difference of opinion a punishable offense. These malcontents are classified an 'inferior' subjects, whether religious, political or those who believe the 'traditional' as the free market cannot be accepted by the Fascist state.
The 'connective' tissue here is where this money went, the Third Reich used this income to fund their rearmament race, it did not take long to realize the Reich Physician Chamber, had a very dominant requirement, membership in the Nazi Party, was the prerequisite, Total Government eventually must find a common enemy at first this is an abstract entity, for the Nazis it was the superior races over the 'inferior' threats of the mentally ill, physically defective, and eventually the Jews.
Obama has achieved this metric, the 'inferior' are Republicans, Conservatives and the rich, but lets not forget the 'racists' that oppose Obama, and his useless time buying policies to create the 'vacuum' of chaotic anarchic 'social segregation' the Obama "hygiene of race, religion, and political affiliation" not that much different, essentially the same narrative until the Total Fascist State finds it necessary to create a State of Total War, in my nightmares, the real possibility is so close, with the Gulf States breaking off diplomatic relations with Qatar, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has declared the Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist organization, where does this place the United States, when Obama has inserted these Fascist Supremacist Islamojihadis, in every position of this government without any background checks, the security of the nation in the hands of the corporate headquarters of Al'Qaeda, the BrotherHoods.
The Arab/Spring/Revolt against the Islamic Secular States, this has introduced the Political Eugenics of the Total Fascist state, in reference to nightmares, imagine what a state of retribution may bring once this 'resident' has his bluff called, will he retreat?
Suspension of elections the Constitution and freedom of speech, can be 'legislated' by decree, it is a benefit of the "Emergency Powers" his rule by decree, an equivalent to the dictatorial powers given Hitler by that Enabling Act in 1933, before he dissolved the Republic and suspended the Constitution, like Mursy in Egypt, another BrotherHood.
Research the taxes levied on the Christian in Iraq, as well as Egypt before the ouster of Mursy, by referendum not a military coup d' e'tat, the same was the case for Libya and Syria's secular state was saved by Putin's interference in reminding NATO of their violation of international law, when the strike against Libya, turned the region to 'civil war' mostly against the shariah imposition of the Muslim Brotherhood.
Luckily for me, my fishing equipment was bought before this 'dhimmi' was imposed with enough fly rods to last me and two lifetimes, it will be necessary to use wire leaders so as not to pay anything to the A.C.A. dhimmi tax on saltwater stainless hooks, but then again remember there will be more restrictions on fishing, hunting and anything not related to the shariaiism of the Al' Obamah Caliphate.
Cannot overlook the other medical devices, include... (show quote)


Oh man I only have one custom made 9' St Croix fly rod. But I do get my fly tieing supplies from either Cabela's or the Fly Angler.

Are they taxing buck tails if they were imported from Canada ?

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Mar 7, 2014 17:59:33   #
Retired669
 
How long did it take you to get this much hate for Obama and everyone else you don't approve of? You eat up with it boy!....






rodulfo-tardo wrote:
Cannot overlook the other medical devices, included are tooth brushes, paste, and mouthwash, if the insurance companies would be honest and declare how much car, home, business increases are directly caused by this medical device tax, there would be a better understanding of the collectivist single party state, this Fascist Supremacist state, where these taxes may just be a part of the shariah mandated dhimmi taxes for non-Muslims, since by the numbers the U.S.A., is in spite of the 2009 speech in Turkey, when Emir Obama declared this country was no longer a "Jewish and Christian" country, within months the head of the Muslim Brotherhood, based in Geneva had his visa reinstated by Obama and his bitch Hillary, whose husband had first put Tariq Ramadan, is charge of Arab Affairs, you can see what the results were, from the first W.T.C. attack, Somalia the Embassies in Africa, very similar dynamics to Benghazi, but mostly it is the Arab/Revolt/Spring, the cause for this Ukranian Crimean stalemate, in 1933 Hitler imposed a non Aryan tax, along with the ability to 'buy' Aryan certificates, for wealthy Jews, a brilliant Taqiyya [deception in sharia] it lasted until the Nazi Haj moved to Berlin in November 1941, this was also the point at which, the Semites became only Jews the term applied to both Hebrew and Arabs, but was changed to isolate the two.
The A.C.A., has nothing to do with health, it is the most effective way to use the fear of health and the loss of medical care, medical extortion or lack thereof, this was another 'hidden fact' the N.S.D.A.P., used to gain control, the Nazis used healthcare, as the principal issue of the Nazi Party platform, it was the first time medicine was used as a political policy promissory note, this only works in 'industrialized societies, modern 'health conscious' modern industrialized ones.
The Reich Physician Chamber 1935, was an experimental phase of the "racial hygiene" as the 'social martial law' it successfully created separate "Medical Distinctions" within the geopolitical spectrum, it was the ultimate source of information, there were specific questions that had no medical reason to exist, the German Medical Profession, became the closest thing to the N.S.A., during the formative growth spurts of the Third Reich's Total Government, the subdivisions of information had classified the 'patients' by class, income, political beliefs and affiliation, the personal habits, religion, moral beliefs and most importantly 'party affiliation' this insured a biological hygiene of politically dependent recipients, it was the "value free" aspect this 'medical insurance' guaranteed, eventually as you can see here, it was able intimidate the 'target audience' but the actual purpose was to isolate by 'racial hygiene' the political 'malcontents' and those whose defined medical conditions are based on how their disagreement indicates some 'racist or mental human case of distemper' such as Republicans, Conservatives, Hebrews and Christians, with Catholics running at the 'neutral' speed of "morally conflicted" due to their guilt from pedophile priests, this is obvious with the current Pope, who is torn between socialist redundancy and reality, his fundamental transformation of the Vatican, will have the same results as the "hopeless change" caliphate, who ran under the name "Rainbow Coalition" the same name the N.S.D.A.P., used in their 1928 Nazi Party campaign, "racial hygiene" made the separation of women, religion, and the key, political affiliations as a prerequisite to acceptance. "Free from any religious or political influences"[Society of Racial Hygiene 1933] this was exemplary, considering it is exactly what the A.C.A. does, it makes any difference of opinion a punishable offense. These malcontents are classified an 'inferior' subjects, whether religious, political or those who believe the 'traditional' as the free market cannot be accepted by the Fascist state.
The 'connective' tissue here is where this money went, the Third Reich used this income to fund their rearmament race, it did not take long to realize the Reich Physician Chamber, had a very dominant requirement, membership in the Nazi Party, was the prerequisite, Total Government eventually must find a common enemy at first this is an abstract entity, for the Nazis it was the superior races over the 'inferior' threats of the mentally ill, physically defective, and eventually the Jews.
Obama has achieved this metric, the 'inferior' are Republicans, Conservatives and the rich, but lets not forget the 'racists' that oppose Obama, and his useless time buying policies to create the 'vacuum' of chaotic anarchic 'social segregation' the Obama "hygiene of race, religion, and political affiliation" not that much different, essentially the same narrative until the Total Fascist State finds it necessary to create a State of Total War, in my nightmares, the real possibility is so close, with the Gulf States breaking off diplomatic relations with Qatar, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia has declared the Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist organization, where does this place the United States, when Obama has inserted these Fascist Supremacist Islamojihadis, in every position of this government without any background checks, the security of the nation in the hands of the corporate headquarters of Al'Qaeda, the BrotherHoods.
The Arab/Spring/Revolt against the Islamic Secular States, this has introduced the Political Eugenics of the Total Fascist state, in reference to nightmares, imagine what a state of retribution may bring once this 'resident' has his bluff called, will he retreat?
Suspension of elections the Constitution and freedom of speech, can be 'legislated' by decree, it is a benefit of the "Emergency Powers" his rule by decree, an equivalent to the dictatorial powers given Hitler by that Enabling Act in 1933, before he dissolved the Republic and suspended the Constitution, like Mursy in Egypt, another BrotherHood.
Research the taxes levied on the Christian in Iraq, as well as Egypt before the ouster of Mursy, by referendum not a military coup d' e'tat, the same was the case for Libya and Syria's secular state was saved by Putin's interference in reminding NATO of their violation of international law, when the strike against Libya, turned the region to 'civil war' mostly against the shariah imposition of the Muslim Brotherhood.
Luckily for me, my fishing equipment was bought before this 'dhimmi' was imposed with enough fly rods to last me and two lifetimes, it will be necessary to use wire leaders so as not to pay anything to the A.C.A. dhimmi tax on saltwater stainless hooks, but then again remember there will be more restrictions on fishing, hunting and anything not related to the shariaiism of the Al' Obamah Caliphate.
Cannot overlook the other medical devices, include... (show quote)

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Mar 7, 2014 18:27:13   #
GEM lucas Loc: TRIADELPHIA ,WV
 
Retired669 wrote:
How long did it take you to get this much hate for Obama and everyone else you don't approve of? You eat up with it boy!....


''Retired669'' I think he needs to get over it, before he gives himself a heart problem.''Gem''

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Mar 7, 2014 18:33:22   #
Redstate
 
Impressive "MANIFESTO" for just a Cabela's receipt.

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Mar 7, 2014 18:34:55   #
Retired669
 
Redstate wrote:
Impressive "MANIFESTO" for just a Cabela's receipt.





:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Mar 7, 2014 18:59:29   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
bobgssc wrote:
The actual mistake was Cabelas charging it... they misunderstood that this tax was supposed to be on the manufacturer so there would be no way we could find out... simple as that. And, since a fishing rod isn't a medical device, it appears the actual amount is 10% not 2.3%.


I can see that you still do not understand. I wonder, how much disposable income do you have? Are you living paycheck to paycheck or dependent on the government for your existence. If so, then perhaps you should start paying attention to people who are wealthy, they know thing that you are refusing to comprehend.

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Mar 7, 2014 19:03:09   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Retired669 wrote:
How long did it take you to get this much hate for Obama and everyone else you don't approve of? You eat up with it boy!....


I agree with you, too much hate!

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Mar 7, 2014 20:10:07   #
son of witless
 
I live by a few simple rules. Number one, always believe the worst about President Obama. Yes he is out to screw YOU. Number two, Monsieur Wolfe has a better than even chance of being wrong.

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Mar 7, 2014 20:22:59   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
bdamage wrote:
Most will hide this tax....Cabela's exposed it.

"The 2.3% Medical Excise Tax that began on January 1st is supposed to be "hidden" from the consumer, but it's been brought to the public's attention by hunting and fishing store Cabela's who have refused to hide it and are showing it as a separate line item tax on their receipts."


read this as well as you are able...

A "hidden" provision in the health care law taxes sporting goods as medical devices.

Chain email, June 12, 2013

The chain email claims that common sporting goods equipment — fishing rods, outboard motors, tackle boxes — will be taxed 2.3 percent under Obamacare. There is a 2.3 percent tax in the law, but it applies to medical devices, not sports equipment. Also, the medical devices tax applies to manufacturers and makers, not consumers. This chain email seems to stem from a mistake made at Cabela's, a Nebraska-based chain that sells sporting goods. At the beginning of 2013, Cabela's accidentally started taxing its sales and labeling it a medical excise tax. But that move was in error, and the company reversed itself the same day. As for the chain email, we rated it Pants on Fire.

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Mar 7, 2014 21:10:36   #
Redstate
 
permafrost wrote:
read this as well as you are able...

A "hidden" provision in the health care law taxes sporting goods as medical devices.

Chain email, June 12, 2013

The chain email claims that common sporting goods equipment — fishing rods, outboard motors, tackle boxes — will be taxed 2.3 percent under Obamacare. There is a 2.3 percent tax in the law, but it applies to medical devices, not sports equipment. Also, the medical devices tax applies to manufacturers and makers, not consumers. This chain email seems to stem from a mistake made at Cabela's, a Nebraska-based chain that sells sporting goods. At the beginning of 2013, Cabela's accidentally started taxing its sales and labeling it a medical excise tax. But that move was in error, and the company reversed itself the same day. As for the chain email, we rated it Pants on Fire.
read this as well as you are able... br br A &quo... (show quote)


…..are you sure this isn’t the Obama Administration conspiring with Cabela’s and other neo-Nazi-arab groups trying to take over by using the ACA to institute sharia law through “hidden” taxation on my bait-n -tackle needs?

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Mar 8, 2014 00:26:56   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
grace scott wrote:
Hit the wrong button here. I do that a lot.

If your medical problem is mental, a fishing rod just might be the medicine you need. Nothing calms a troubled mine better than sitting on a river bank, watching the waves, and hoping the fish don't bite because you don't want to cook then.


I do so much hope that was a joke :?: :?: :?: :shock:

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