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Aug 21, 2018 11:51:20   #
Sicilianthing
 
buffalo wrote:
Social Security is really named Old-Age, Survivors, and Disability Insurance (OASDI) and is the largest income-maintenance program in the United States. Based on social insurance principles, the program provides monthly benefits designed to replace the loss of income due to retirement, disability, or death. Coverage is nearly universal: About 96% of the jobs in the United States are covered. Workers finance the program through a payroll tax that is
levied under the Federal Insurance and Self-Employment Contribution Acts (FICA and SECA).

In 2018 approximately 63 MILLION elderly and disabled will depend on the programs.

My solution to the funding problem is to eliminate the wage cap of $128,000 and make all incomes subject to the tax, even the unearned incomes of the wealthy of capital gains and dividends, then means test for eligibility.
Social Security is really named Old-Age, Survivors... (show quote)


>>>>

It’s a Federalist way to Extort personal income from the people in stealth to pour into the General Fund they continue to lie about...

Answer this question, where’s all the money at for SS ?
What account is it in ?
What is the name of that bank ?
Who has the real books ?

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Aug 21, 2018 14:22:21   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
>>>>

It’s a Federalist way to Extort personal income from the people in stealth to pour into the General Fund they continue to lie about...

Answer this question, where’s all the money at for SS ?
What account is it in ?
What is the name of that bank ?
Who has the real books ?


The excess is held in unmarketable Treasury Securities... The Social Security trust fund is a fiction. … In other words, the Social Security trust fund contains—nothing. The federal government has borrowed all of that trust fund money and spent it. And the only way the trust fund can get some cash to pay Social Security benefits is if the federal government draws it from general revenues or borrows the money. Hence the threatening of cutting off Social Security checks when there is a government shut down.

The public has been deceived for decades, starting with Reagan and Greenspan's FRAUD. I think this is where Bernie Madoff got the idea for his ponzi scheme.

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Aug 21, 2018 21:21:48   #
Sicilianthing
 
buffalo wrote:
The excess is held in unmarketable Treasury Securities... The Social Security trust fund is a fiction. … In other words, the Social Security trust fund contains—nothing. The federal government has borrowed all of that trust fund money and spent it. And the only way the trust fund can get some cash to pay Social Security benefits is if the federal government draws it from general revenues or borrows the money. Hence the threatening of cutting off Social Security checks when there is a government shut down.

The public has been deceived for decades, starting with Reagan and Greenspan's FRAUD. I think this is where Bernie Madoff got the idea for his ponzi scheme.
The excess is held in unmarketable Treasury Securi... (show quote)


>>>>

Bingo !



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Aug 21, 2018 21:33:59   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
I legally Opted out of SS...I say take care of yerself...IOU's will never be paid back

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Aug 21, 2018 21:45:10   #
Sicilianthing
 
Crayons wrote:
I legally Opted out of SS...I say take care of yerself...IOU's will never be paid back


>>>>

I’m looking at 2 other options....

Correcting my political status and then going after the Federalists and the IRS for Full Reimbursement

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Aug 24, 2018 13:17:54   #
Cripple
 
News to whoever chats or follows Paul or Cripple2001 on this site. Paul passed away last Saturday night 8/18. I doubt you will ever see me on this site ever again. The Best Man Ever!

Tears have been flowing around here and the memories abound.

We were married just before Paul got out of the Marines back from Vietnam. Huge amount of hours, many months to try to accomplish what he said “rejoin humanity” from those terrible days. My husband didn’t like officers saying he saw so many who acted like they were the enemy. The scar on his butt is almost gone, he kept the Purple Heart he called “tin” and the Silver Star that was really never awarded to him. He said he was on the boat (he liked calling ships boats just to get the Navy guys) and while he watched them push a helicopter off the side of the boat several Army guys came to him and handed him the Silver Star Paul carried with him all these years later. They said they would all be dead if it wasn’t for him. He was a real good shot with his rifle in those days.

So many people don’t have a clue what it’s like to be married to a combat Marine Veteran. How many nights I woke with him tearing the sheets and pillow case into strips claiming he was making boobie-traps. How many times he literally kicked me out of the bed with a quiet whisper the V.C. were close. So many other things he never got over. In those days what Paul had was not called PTSD in fact they had nothing to help him.

Paul often said the world is full of people who sacrifice their “Ethics” on a daily basis. He was once a Democrat and a Campaign Manager for a man locally who was elected to the Arizona Legislature. All he kept saying was if he could help U.S. society to just follow the top 3 or 5 issues they see as “Ethics” meaning no deceit, he would be happy. He use to say “Morals” but claimed he tired of all the religious discussions he got into using that word but say “Ethics” and such is a better conversation.

Paul switched and became a Republican after a big fight with Arizona Democrats on the one word deceit. He stayed a Republican years when he worked with the Steelworkers and worked at an underground mine. So many arguments he had while with the unions. He just had to be involved with the union when he was a Letter Carrier for the Post Office and became President for some 14 years. He was elected as the State Union President for 4 years, the union actually created a position for him to be elected as a Union Lobbyist to D.C. for 4 years and he was good, real good. He said so many times he liked working in the West Wing of the White House though he was the voice of conservatives with Pres. Bill Clinton he was really outspoken against Bill Clinton, didn’t like him and didn’t have to resign. He said one day we was sitting in a room in the West Wing waiting for a meeting to happen when he met eyes with the National Union President whose ego was damaged and the next election Paul would not be elected. Paul was so tired of 90+ hour weeks and flying home on weekends and soon after he went back to being a Letter Carrier on his way to work some criminal woman rear-ended him while he was at a stoplight pushing him into a real busy street. Regardless his spine was severely damaged and the rest of his life he was in a wheelchair. He warned people about insurance and crooks who make the laws certainly don’t support their constituents, you loose so much of everything after you’re disabled. I still remember many times Paul said if this is the Karma (being in a wheelchair) from the days of Vietnam he’s getting off easy. He still had nights he rolled over in bed putting his hand over my mouth whispering to me to be quiet the V.C. is here.

It was Trump that really set Paul off on his issues of Ethics and deceit. He felt so bad he supported Trump then one day Paul started researching and discovered Trump lied to everyone. Paul switched to being an Independent in his political activities that were important to him. Paul often said Aristotle (ancient Greek philosopher) said something that a person is “stupid” or “ignorant” when they cannot have a discussion with someone who saw things differently or a different opinion.

One day Paul went to a local bank sitting with his wheelchair and his favorite service dog taking pictures with his camera of all the people who violated handicap parking as-if they don’t care. Paul argued too many “sheep” in our society that believe so many lies in our political arena. He often said “Is that who you are?”

With labored breath he spoke on his death bed that he would never fall for a “Gulf of Tonkin” ever again claiming U.S. Navy boats attacked, people killed, U.S. men killed pushing the U.S. into thousands, tens of thousands of military people to Vietnam, ALL A LIE! The government said, the media didn’t do what we rely upon them to do and investigate to find the truth and over 58,000+ U.S. people died. How our priorities are so messed-up. We live in a country where we settled with at least 60,000 people a year die in auto accidents. He said “think about it” 58,000+ died in years involved in Vietnam who ripped this country apart while we ignored 60,000+ U.S. people die in auto accidents every year.

He first came up with the “sheep” argument (describing people) involving Pres. Bill Clinton people saying they don’t care about his sex-life that’s not what they want him as President. So “that’s who you are” he said so many times and hears all the same arguments today involving Trump. Paul never cheated on me our 53 years of marriage. He smiled and almost laughed with his trouble breathing Evangelicals who now have a real “Ethics” problem. They support “Adultery” by supporting Trump who was acting like a 15 year old boy with beautiful women. Paul laughed we now have a President who has less credibility than a “porn star” or “centerfold”. So much of U.S. society supporting (encouraging & rewarding) a man who falls into a lower standard than they place upon themselves. One rationalized excuse after another when it boils down to they (U.S. society) don’t practice Ethics what they say is so important to them.

Before he passed, Paul was still sad about all the “terrible things” (according to him) he did in Vietnam. He felt bad that this Trump is President (he supported) and a whole society who refuse to take the blame for voting him into political office. He said he may have failed to find someone who will carry the “Ethics” he was pushing so hard. He did say there was a man on this site who wants to push the “Ethics” banner for him after he’s gone. He never said the name but if you are reading this Paul felt fond about you.

It helps to write this down for him. Sorry it’s so long. Paul said that if you can’t say it with many words you’re just not trying hard enough (that he said as a joke). I’ll see you soon honey.


Sicilianthing wrote:
>>>>

Thank You I am humbled by your compliment cripple.

Are you crippled ? Or is the avatar just the sparkler ?

Anyway, SS was never suppose to be touched, moved, leveraged, mortgaged, liened or any other designed intelligence wordology and program by the so called geniuses.

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Aug 24, 2018 13:18:37   #
Cripple
 
News to whoever chats or follows Paul or Cripple2001 on this site. Paul passed away last Saturday night 8/18. I doubt you will ever see me on this site ever again. The Best Man Ever!

Tears have been flowing around here and the memories abound.

We were married just before Paul got out of the Marines back from Vietnam. Huge amount of hours, many months to try to accomplish what he said “rejoin humanity” from those terrible days. My husband didn’t like officers saying he saw so many who acted like they were the enemy. The scar on his butt is almost gone, he kept the Purple Heart he called “tin” and the Silver Star that was really never awarded to him. He said he was on the boat (he liked calling ships boats just to get the Navy guys) and while he watched them push a helicopter off the side of the boat several Army guys came to him and handed him the Silver Star Paul carried with him all these years later. They said they would all be dead if it wasn’t for him. He was a real good shot with his rifle in those days.

So many people don’t have a clue what it’s like to be married to a combat Marine Veteran. How many nights I woke with him tearing the sheets and pillow case into strips claiming he was making boobie-traps. How many times he literally kicked me out of the bed with a quiet whisper the V.C. were close. So many other things he never got over. In those days what Paul had was not called PTSD in fact they had nothing to help him.

Paul often said the world is full of people who sacrifice their “Ethics” on a daily basis. He was once a Democrat and a Campaign Manager for a man locally who was elected to the Arizona Legislature. All he kept saying was if he could help U.S. society to just follow the top 3 or 5 issues they see as “Ethics” meaning no deceit, he would be happy. He use to say “Morals” but claimed he tired of all the religious discussions he got into using that word but say “Ethics” and such is a better conversation.

Paul switched and became a Republican after a big fight with Arizona Democrats on the one word deceit. He stayed a Republican years when he worked with the Steelworkers and worked at an underground mine. So many arguments he had while with the unions. He just had to be involved with the union when he was a Letter Carrier for the Post Office and became President for some 14 years. He was elected as the State Union President for 4 years, the union actually created a position for him to be elected as a Union Lobbyist to D.C. for 4 years and he was good, real good. He said so many times he liked working in the West Wing of the White House though he was the voice of conservatives with Pres. Bill Clinton he was really outspoken against Bill Clinton, didn’t like him and didn’t have to resign. He said one day we was sitting in a room in the West Wing waiting for a meeting to happen when he met eyes with the National Union President whose ego was damaged and the next election Paul would not be elected. Paul was so tired of 90+ hour weeks and flying home on weekends and soon after he went back to being a Letter Carrier on his way to work some criminal woman rear-ended him while he was at a stoplight pushing him into a real busy street. Regardless his spine was severely damaged and the rest of his life he was in a wheelchair. He warned people about insurance and crooks who make the laws certainly don’t support their constituents, you loose so much of everything after you’re disabled. I still remember many times Paul said if this is the Karma (being in a wheelchair) from the days of Vietnam he’s getting off easy. He still had nights he rolled over in bed putting his hand over my mouth whispering to me to be quiet the V.C. is here.

It was Trump that really set Paul off on his issues of Ethics and deceit. He felt so bad he supported Trump then one day Paul started researching and discovered Trump lied to everyone. Paul switched to being an Independent in his political activities that were important to him. Paul often said Aristotle (ancient Greek philosopher) said something that a person is “stupid” or “ignorant” when they cannot have a discussion with someone who saw things differently or a different opinion.

One day Paul went to a local bank sitting with his wheelchair and his favorite service dog taking pictures with his camera of all the people who violated handicap parking as-if they don’t care. Paul argued too many “sheep” in our society that believe so many lies in our political arena. He often said “Is that who you are?”

With labored breath he spoke on his death bed that he would never fall for a “Gulf of Tonkin” ever again claiming U.S. Navy boats attacked, people killed, U.S. men killed pushing the U.S. into thousands, tens of thousands of military people to Vietnam, ALL A LIE! The government said, the media didn’t do what we rely upon them to do and investigate to find the truth and over 58,000+ U.S. people died. How our priorities are so messed-up. We live in a country where we settled with at least 60,000 people a year die in auto accidents. He said “think about it” 58,000+ died in years involved in Vietnam who ripped this country apart while we ignored 60,000+ U.S. people die in auto accidents every year.

He first came up with the “sheep” argument (describing people) involving Pres. Bill Clinton people saying they don’t care about his sex-life that’s not what they want him as President. So “that’s who you are” he said so many times and hears all the same arguments today involving Trump. Paul never cheated on me our 53 years of marriage. He smiled and almost laughed with his trouble breathing Evangelicals who now have a real “Ethics” problem. They support “Adultery” by supporting Trump who was acting like a 15 year old boy with beautiful women. Paul laughed we now have a President who has less credibility than a “porn star” or “centerfold”. So much of U.S. society supporting (encouraging & rewarding) a man who falls into a lower standard than they place upon themselves. One rationalized excuse after another when it boils down to they (U.S. society) don’t practice Ethics what they say is so important to them.

Before he passed, Paul was still sad about all the “terrible things” (according to him) he did in Vietnam. He felt bad that this Trump is President (he supported) and a whole society who refuse to take the blame for voting him into political office. He said he may have failed to find someone who will carry the “Ethics” he was pushing so hard. He did say there was a man on this site who wants to push the “Ethics” banner for him after he’s gone. He never said the name but if you are reading this Paul felt fond about you.

It helps to write this down for him. Sorry it’s so long. Paul said that if you can’t say it with many words you’re just not trying hard enough (that he said as a joke). I’ll see you soon honey.


Crayons wrote:
I legally Opted out of SS...I say take care of yerself...IOU's will never be paid back

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Aug 24, 2018 14:00:20   #
debeda
 
Cripple wrote:
News to whoever chats or follows Paul or Cripple2001 on this site. Paul passed away last Saturday night 8/18. I doubt you will ever see me on this site ever again. The Best Man Ever!

Tears have been flowing around here and the memories abound.

We were married just before Paul got out of the Marines back from Vietnam. Huge amount of hours, many months to try to accomplish what he said “rejoin humanity” from those terrible days. My husband didn’t like officers saying he saw so many who acted like they were the enemy. The scar on his butt is almost gone, he kept the Purple Heart he called “tin” and the Silver Star that was really never awarded to him. He said he was on the boat (he liked calling ships boats just to get the Navy guys) and while he watched them push a helicopter off the side of the boat several Army guys came to him and handed him the Silver Star Paul carried with him all these years later. They said they would all be dead if it wasn’t for him. He was a real good shot with his rifle in those days.

So many people don’t have a clue what it’s like to be married to a combat Marine Veteran. How many nights I woke with him tearing the sheets and pillow case into strips claiming he was making boobie-traps. How many times he literally kicked me out of the bed with a quiet whisper the V.C. were close. So many other things he never got over. In those days what Paul had was not called PTSD in fact they had nothing to help him.

Paul often said the world is full of people who sacrifice their “Ethics” on a daily basis. He was once a Democrat and a Campaign Manager for a man locally who was elected to the Arizona Legislature. All he kept saying was if he could help U.S. society to just follow the top 3 or 5 issues they see as “Ethics” meaning no deceit, he would be happy. He use to say “Morals” but claimed he tired of all the religious discussions he got into using that word but say “Ethics” and such is a better conversation.

Paul switched and became a Republican after a big fight with Arizona Democrats on the one word deceit. He stayed a Republican years when he worked with the Steelworkers and worked at an underground mine. So many arguments he had while with the unions. He just had to be involved with the union when he was a Letter Carrier for the Post Office and became President for some 14 years. He was elected as the State Union President for 4 years, the union actually created a position for him to be elected as a Union Lobbyist to D.C. for 4 years and he was good, real good. He said so many times he liked working in the West Wing of the White House though he was the voice of conservatives with Pres. Bill Clinton he was really outspoken against Bill Clinton, didn’t like him and didn’t have to resign. He said one day we was sitting in a room in the West Wing waiting for a meeting to happen when he met eyes with the National Union President whose ego was damaged and the next election Paul would not be elected. Paul was so tired of 90+ hour weeks and flying home on weekends and soon after he went back to being a Letter Carrier on his way to work some criminal woman rear-ended him while he was at a stoplight pushing him into a real busy street. Regardless his spine was severely damaged and the rest of his life he was in a wheelchair. He warned people about insurance and crooks who make the laws certainly don’t support their constituents, you loose so much of everything after you’re disabled. I still remember many times Paul said if this is the Karma (being in a wheelchair) from the days of Vietnam he’s getting off easy. He still had nights he rolled over in bed putting his hand over my mouth whispering to me to be quiet the V.C. is here.

It was Trump that really set Paul off on his issues of Ethics and deceit. He felt so bad he supported Trump then one day Paul started researching and discovered Trump lied to everyone. Paul switched to being an Independent in his political activities that were important to him. Paul often said Aristotle (ancient Greek philosopher) said something that a person is “stupid” or “ignorant” when they cannot have a discussion with someone who saw things differently or a different opinion.

One day Paul went to a local bank sitting with his wheelchair and his favorite service dog taking pictures with his camera of all the people who violated handicap parking as-if they don’t care. Paul argued too many “sheep” in our society that believe so many lies in our political arena. He often said “Is that who you are?”

With labored breath he spoke on his death bed that he would never fall for a “Gulf of Tonkin” ever again claiming U.S. Navy boats attacked, people killed, U.S. men killed pushing the U.S. into thousands, tens of thousands of military people to Vietnam, ALL A LIE! The government said, the media didn’t do what we rely upon them to do and investigate to find the truth and over 58,000+ U.S. people died. How our priorities are so messed-up. We live in a country where we settled with at least 60,000 people a year die in auto accidents. He said “think about it” 58,000+ died in years involved in Vietnam who ripped this country apart while we ignored 60,000+ U.S. people die in auto accidents every year.

He first came up with the “sheep” argument (describing people) involving Pres. Bill Clinton people saying they don’t care about his sex-life that’s not what they want him as President. So “that’s who you are” he said so many times and hears all the same arguments today involving Trump. Paul never cheated on me our 53 years of marriage. He smiled and almost laughed with his trouble breathing Evangelicals who now have a real “Ethics” problem. They support “Adultery” by supporting Trump who was acting like a 15 year old boy with beautiful women. Paul laughed we now have a President who has less credibility than a “porn star” or “centerfold”. So much of U.S. society supporting (encouraging & rewarding) a man who falls into a lower standard than they place upon themselves. One rationalized excuse after another when it boils down to they (U.S. society) don’t practice Ethics what they say is so important to them.

Before he passed, Paul was still sad about all the “terrible things” (according to him) he did in Vietnam. He felt bad that this Trump is President (he supported) and a whole society who refuse to take the blame for voting him into political office. He said he may have failed to find someone who will carry the “Ethics” he was pushing so hard. He did say there was a man on this site who wants to push the “Ethics” banner for him after he’s gone. He never said the name but if you are reading this Paul felt fond about you.

It helps to write this down for him. Sorry it’s so long. Paul said that if you can’t say it with many words you’re just not trying hard enough (that he said as a joke). I’ll see you soon honey.
News to whoever chats or follows Paul or Cripple20... (show quote)


I am so very sad to hear of Cripple passing, and my sincere condolences to you on your loss.

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