Bad Bob wrote:
I want to see massive CONVICTIONS.
Hey Bob, you an me both.
I have done pervious searches and it did provide convictions.
The problem is post voting, discovering thousands of tombstone voters, or hundreds to thousands of fraudulent ballots, then tracing to the villains.
In 08 (Washington state) I voted using a machine. I pushed my selection and the mark went to Obama, again and again. It was the forth attempt before my vote properly registered.
Did the fraudulent voting machine win Obama the election? I doubt it, but do question the combination of busses going from city to city, tombstone voters, and fraudulent ballots, but their is noway anyone can know.
Then earlier in 2000 I received my ballot (California) and the box was already checked for governor.
In the mid 90's (Washington state) the governor race was extremely tight, Dem- Christine Gregway (sp) won by if memory serves me a few thousand votes. There was a recount and several hundred ballots were found for Gop, and several hundred tombstone voters. The GOP withdrew and the Dem won. But then different counties found hundreds more tombstone voters and more "lost" ballots. The GOP ended up with more votes, but the court drug their feet until she was sworn in. I was there, and she stole the election.
I am but one of millions of voters that first hand experienced "attempted" fraud, or fraud. In the case of California ballots already having an X in the box, a late " opos an error occurred, sorry" after the fact.
The other problem is the GOP doesn't seem to take action other than lip service. In Washington state the investigations were half hearted, with no aggressive action taken lost ballots and those found responsible. Voters were outraged at the inaction, and seems just got lip service.
I say we need stiff laws, mandatory jail time combined with heavy fines to discourage fraud. Those committing are infringing on our sacred voting, so three years in prison and $50,000 fines might make some second guess after a few go to prison.
Most of the bigger impact happens between machines and ballots. As boxes of ballots are being transported those responsible lose or add ballots and it becomes difficult to hold accountable who did the adding or losing.
We need all new voting machines that are only mechanical or go back to using only paper ballots.