Detroit and Flint have the highest violent crime rates in the nation and in both any adult who is not a felon can openly carry a gun, Michigan is a shall issue state for a concealed weapons license making it legal for any adult to get a license to carry a concealed pistol after one 8 hour class. Chicago has a murder rate half that of Detroit and New York is about six times lower. Both have strict gun control laws. Between 2000 and 2010 510 police officers were killed with firearms of those 51 or a full ten percent were killed with their own or another officers department issued sidearm.

Stupid and untrue! I am a liberal and a gun owner. I think people should have the right to own guns, but they must be kept out of the hands of emotionally disturbed people and felons. I also think that semi automatic military weapons are unnecessary for any legitimate purpose. I know people that own all kinds of semiautomatic rifles and they tell me that they own them because they are fun to shoot. Thats not a good enough reason for me. I'm afraid that they could come into the possession of crazies that might use them in a school, mall or movie theatre.

Not sure if this fits your request, but what the heck:


http://www.policeone.com/close-quarters-combat/articles/100228-Cases-of-Officers-Killed-by-Their-Own-Guns-Likely-Will-Not-Change-R-I-Policies/


from the article:

"There are no national statistics on how many times officers' guns are taken away. But the FBI says that of the 616 law enforcement officers killed on duty by criminals from 1994 through 2003, 52 were killed with their own weapon, amounting to 8 percent.
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"What's remarkable is that it doesn't happen more often," said Jim Pasco, executive director of the national Fraternal Order of Police, the nation's largest union for law enforcement officers."

"The Gun Is Civilization"

Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force . If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that's it .
In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion . Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.
When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force .
The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gang banger, and a single guy on equal footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.
There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we'd be more civilized if all guns were removed from society because a firearm makes it easier for a [armed] mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger's potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat - it has no validity when most of a mugger's potential marks are armed.
People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that's the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.
Then there's the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser.
People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don't constitute lethal force, watch too much TV where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier, works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level.
The gun is the only weapon that's as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weight lifter. It simply would not work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn't both lethal and easily employable.
When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded . I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation... And that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act!!

But, sadly most of the left's will not understand it. Shows how thay lack intellect.

Conservative are so good at dichotomies.

You are either with me or against me. You are either good or evil. Conflicts can only be resolved by violence or persuasion.


Has it ever occurred to you that some people use neither persuasion nor violence with people with whom they disagree. Some people actually just decide to mind their own business and walk away. Some people even say things like, let's just agree to disagree.

There are many people who have beliefs or behaviors with which I am uncomfortable. Rarely do I feel the need to convince them of the correctness of my views by persuasion or violence. (If I were president, I would neither move troops to the Russian border nor lecture the Russians about Democracy. I would just stay out of their 800 year old family conflict with their slavic sibling, the Ukraine).

When evangelicals come knocking at my door, I neither whip out a Glock nor do I begin instructing them on the theories of Charles Darwin. I just say "thank you for the literature. Have a nice day."

A world view of either "shoot them or change them" is not something the rest of the world needs. Unfortunately our foreign policy under both Bushes has used this false dichotomy.