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Aug 6, 2018 13:12:41   #
PJT
 
Calif registration to vote flawed since at least 1982. They asked if registered previously in Calif bit Of if registered in any other state. U didn't have to give any I.d. or any roof at all.
Probably why Calif passes goofy referendums

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Aug 6, 2018 13:12:51   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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BB your post there was a fabricated reports from the MSM, to lie and falsify the facts that happened. You Google them and they were all fabricated reports from MSM reporters. There are so many of them.

Here are the New Report Exposes Thousands of Illegal Votes in 2016 Election the fact. The Government Accountability Institute concluded in its report that thousands of votes in the 2016 election were illegal duplicate votes.
The Institute points out that the quality of the voter registration data in some states is very poor, with missing and obviously incorrect information.
We have serious, substantive problems in our voter registration system across the country and that voter fraud is, without a doubt, real.
California, NY, and those heavy democrat populated states are the worst.

https://www.heritage.org/election-integrity/commentary/new-report-exposes-thousands-illegal-votes-2016-election
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Aug 6, 2018 13:15:16   #
PeterS
 
Loki wrote:
You haven't been paying attention. I have stated repeatedly that I think the wall will do no good in many places.
There are many other issues that need to be addressed. An end to chain migration, an end to a visa lottery, implementation of E verify and stiff penalties for US employers who knowingly hire illegals, enforcement of prison sentences already mandated for wetbacks caught with fake ID, and an end to the ridiculous practice of giving birth citizenship to the children of illegals, when the clear statements of the authors of the 14th Amendment specifically excluded foreigners and illegals from receiving birth citizenship.
Every year there are some 300,000 children born to wetbacks who are allowed to stay in this country and receive benefits because of this practice. Every years more legal entrants overstay their visas and become illegals, and I don't mean people who overstay by a few months who are not the problem.
You haven't been paying attention. I have stated r... (show quote)

Well you are hard to pay attention to you sometimes but you make good points. I've said all along that so long as employers don't even get a slap on the wrist there is nothing anyone can do about illegal immigration.

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Aug 6, 2018 13:21:36   #
Radiance3
 
PeterS wrote:
Well you are hard to pay attention to you sometimes but you make good points. I've said all along that so long as employers don't even get a slap on the wrist there is nothing anyone can do about illegal immigration.


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Nothing we could do about illegal immigration? How about repatriating them to their country? That will save taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars, and the crimes they create.

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Aug 6, 2018 14:46:04   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
PeterS wrote:
And yet I'm willing to bet that there is nary a conservative who doesn't think that Mezkins are pouring over to border just so they can vote in our elections.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/03/politics/trump-voter-fraud-commission-evidence-documents/


CNN Hmmmm I'll see if I can locate the report I read some time back stating just the opposite !

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Aug 6, 2018 14:49:40   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
PeterS wrote:
And yet I'm willing to bet that there is nary a conservative who doesn't think that Mezkins are pouring over to border just so they can vote in our elections.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/03/politics/trump-voter-fraud-commission-evidence-documents/


No I don't think that Mezkins are pouring over to border just so they can vote in our elections , however once they get here you can bet your bottom dollar the Demo's are signing them up for every freebee they can thus ensuing they will vote Demo !

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Aug 6, 2018 15:40:43   #
PeterS
 
4430 wrote:
No I don't think that Mezkins are pouring over to border just so they can vote in our elections , however once they get here you can bet your bottom dollar the Demo's are signing them up for every freebee they can thus ensuing they will vote Demo !

And how can we do that since illegal immigrants don't qualify for any federal program. And just how dense are you people. To register to vote in a federal election you need a birth certificate plus valid ID proving you are a citizen of the state. Where do illegal immigrants get such documents and why would democrats risk jail trying to provide them to illegals when you can get votes by just going out to register citizens with no risk anything at all...

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Aug 6, 2018 17:02:28   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
PeterS wrote:
And how can we do that since illegal immigrants don't qualify for any federal program. And just how dense are you people. To register to vote in a federal election you need a birth certificate plus valid ID proving you are a citizen of the state. Where do illegal immigrants get such documents and why would democrats risk jail trying to provide them to illegals when you can get votes by just going out to register citizens with no risk anything at all...


Illegals can get anything they want on the street and there are plenty who are willing get them anything they want !

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Aug 6, 2018 17:05:12   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
badbob85037 wrote:
A few days before this last election a story hit the local news of a La Raza group registering 2,000 illegals in my district to vote. Our rep is your typical Democrat. He is co-chairman of the American Socialist Party, a member of MEChA. He is for every gun law ever written, a wide open border and calls the Americans living within 25 miles of the border cockroaches and wants them disarmed and jailed. I guess he thinks it isn't bad enough that these Americans have to leave their refrigerators outside their home to keep illegals from busting in their doors in the middle of the night. The only elected scum that has boycott his own state. He won his re-election by less than 2,000 votes so don't try to tell some one who fact checks there is no voting fraud. Your whole party is a fraud and has been since Johnson killed JFK. If you had a brain in your head you would know that. Maybe in 14 years you will figure that out but I'm not holding my breath. There isn't an issue out their you and your party hasn't taken to destroy this nation, nothing you stand for has anything to do with the law or the Constitution. Doughty it? Then have someone read it to you. Pathetic traitors and with more Americans catching on to just how rotten and treasonous the Democrats are your days are numbered and stupid will not be an excuse.
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You are very sick and confused...



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Aug 6, 2018 17:13:17   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
PJT wrote:
These problems will be solved but the wall is very important. Of course the Dems don't want any reforms. So we will see if the majority of American citizens want our borders controlled, our elections secure and our citizens safe from illegal criminals who cat hide in areas that are local and state government warehouses, I.e. sanctuary areas. November elections will answer the questions.



If you fear a 100 extra votes for the dems by illegals, what do you intend to do about voter suppression laws, gerrymandering, intimidation and voting locations?



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Aug 6, 2018 17:27:19   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
bmac32 wrote:
Any wall will help, eye's in the sky (think drone), electrics, laws and most importantly enforcement of those laws.


There are places where a wall is a waste of time and money, money better spent on drone surveillance and increasing rapid response capability. An unguarded wall is a joke. There are areas where there are no roads and no water and no one with an ounce of brains would try to sneak in that way. The only way to make it would be to rendevous with some sort of ATV bringing water. Aerial surveillance is the answer.

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Aug 6, 2018 17:30:06   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Loki wrote:
There are places where a wall is a waste of time and money, money better spent on drone surveillance and increasing rapid response capability. An unguarded wall is a joke. There are areas where there are no roads and no water and no one with an ounce of brains would try to sneak in that way. The only way to make it would be to rendevous with some sort of ATV bringing water. Aerial surveillance is the answer.


Are the Mexicans going to pay for it?

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Aug 6, 2018 17:32:05   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
permafrost wrote:
If you fear a 100 extra votes for the dems by illegals, what do you intend to do about voter suppression laws, gerrymandering, intimidation and voting locations?


Voter ID? Give me a break. Almost all of the supposedly "disenfranchised" voters receive some sort of government benefits which require an ID suitable for voter ID. To suggest that these people are receiving benefits sans ID is a poorly thought through lie, believed only by the most gullible among us.
As for gerrymandering, it is mostly used at a state level, and Democrats have used it far more than Republicans. You didn't have the slightest damn problem with the practice as long as YOUR candidates were the ones reaping the benefits.
Voter fraud does not typically occur at the polls, but at registration. Fake ID's are rampant among wetbacks and many places simply don't check as closely as they should.

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Aug 6, 2018 17:38:08   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Are the Mexicans going to pay for it?


One way or another, it's possible. Wetbacks send huge amounts of money by wire transfer from the US to Mexico every year. Put a substantial surcharge on those money transfers. If nothing else, it might discourage people from sending so much money back to Mexico. I personally would put every wetback apprehended to work building the wall.

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Aug 6, 2018 17:44:02   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
PeterS wrote:
And how can we do that since illegal immigrants don't qualify for any federal program. And just how dense are you people. To register to vote in a federal election you need a birth certificate plus valid ID proving you are a citizen of the state. Where do illegal immigrants get such documents and why would democrats risk jail trying to provide them to illegals when you can get votes by just going out to register citizens with no risk anything at all...


State voting requirement vary greatly. Some states don't require any ID, some don't require a birth certificate, many accept a drivers license or other ID. There are literally millions of fake and stolen ID's in this country. The IRS stated recently that at least 1.3 million wetbacks are using stolen ID's here. Voter fraud occurs at registration, not at the polls on election day.
You are also mistaken about wetbacks qualifying for federal programs. Every wetback who sneaks into this country and manages to stay until his wife, girlfriend or rent-a-puta has a child qualifies for government benefits. They obtain benefits the same way they obtain employment, with fraudulent ID's.

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