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Aug 3, 2018 17:45:15   #
debeda
 
whitnebrat wrote:
Yanno, watching this dialog merely corroborates my opinion that fifty years of public school education has totally deadened minds to both a knowledge of history and the ability to use critical thinking. To my non-partisan eye, if both sides would put aside their preconceived notions of what they would like reality to be and start with seeing the facts without the filters of MSNBC or Fox News, they would both have to agree that neither side has a monopoly on truth, and that the actual reality on the ground is shown to be a scenario that neither one would have previously bought into.

My point: Evaluate the facts for yourself, and quit being tribal. Then figure out what's real and what isn't.

Of course, this falls on deaf ears, and I expect nothing but flak for saying it ... but the reality sometimes isn't pretty, nor is it what we want to hear. But it is necessary if we want to survive as a nation, that we find it in a rational manner. This sure isn't it.
Yanno, watching this dialog merely corroborates my... (show quote)


Which eye is your "nonpartisan " eye? Haven't ever noticed any of your posts being nonpartisan

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Aug 3, 2018 17:47:57   #
whitnebrat Loc: In the wilds of Oregon
 
<sigh> And the flak starts coming ...

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Aug 3, 2018 17:53:29   #
Fit2BTied Loc: Texas
 
whitnebrat wrote:
Yanno, watching this dialog merely corroborates my opinion that fifty years of public school education has totally deadened minds to both a knowledge of history and the ability to use critical thinking. To my non-partisan eye, if both sides would put aside their preconceived notions of what they would like reality to be and start with seeing the facts without the filters of MSNBC or Fox News, they would both have to agree that neither side has a monopoly on truth, and that the actual reality on the ground is shown to be a scenario that neither one would have previously bought into.

My point: Evaluate the facts for yourself, and quit being tribal. Then figure out what's real and what isn't.

Of course, this falls on deaf ears, and I expect nothing but flak for saying it ... but the reality sometimes isn't pretty, nor is it what we want to hear. But it is necessary if we want to survive as a nation, that we find it in a rational manner. This sure isn't it.
Yanno, watching this dialog merely corroborates my... (show quote)
All bovine residue aside, you do preach truth especially when you say neither side has a monopoly on truth and that we have devolved into warring tribes. The problem I see is that the truth doesn't seem to be a priority for ANY form of news/media. And unless you were the proverbial fly on the wall everywhere all the time - how do you find your truth? It's like mining for rare earth elements, you've got to process tons of "information ore" in order to get a few ounces of truth. How do YOU accomplish this Herculean task?

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Aug 3, 2018 17:54:39   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
If Obama were for many of these things democrats would fall in line and be for many of these same idea's without even thinking, like ObamaCare, not caring rates would go north. The hate from the left is manufactured.



debeda wrote:
Truest statement I've heard lately!! And the hilarious thing is most democrats "hate" him because of their programming. Nothing he has done as president would warrant this kind of hate. And in most cases it's not even hate, exactly, it's more of an hysteria induced rage. I guess that's a result of the TDS ......

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Aug 3, 2018 18:00:46   #
bahmer
 
Fit2BTied wrote:
All bovine residue aside, you do preach truth especially when you say neither side has a monopoly on truth and that we have devolved into warring tribes. The problem I see is that the truth doesn't seem to be a priority for ANY form of news/media. And unless you were the proverbial fly on the wall everywhere all the time - how do you find your truth? It's like mining for rare earth elements, you've got to process tons of "information ore" in order to get a few ounces of truth. How do YOU accomplish this Herculean task?
All bovine residue aside, you do preach truth espe... (show quote)


Journalism of yesteryear is lost and is not being taught anymore. All we are getting is the MSM's views on subjects and nothing to do with the truth. Being a journalist took time and dedication and integrity. There sources were always checked out and made sure that they were accurate. There was little if ever any sloppy reporting in those days and the sources were never revealed but htey were always checked and double checked. Back then the news could be believed and counted on to be true. The populace could discuss the news and rely in uit as factual. Now all we are getting is opinion pieces and not much else.

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Aug 3, 2018 18:12:08   #
whitnebrat Loc: In the wilds of Oregon
 
bahmer wrote:
Journalism of yesteryear is lost and is not being taught anymore. All we are getting is the MSM's views on subjects and nothing to do with the truth. Being a journalist took time and dedication and integrity. There sources were always checked out and made sure that they were accurate. There was little if ever any sloppy reporting in those days and the sources were never revealed but htey were always checked and double checked. Back then the news could be believed and counted on to be true. The populace could discuss the news and rely in uit as factual. Now all we are getting is opinion pieces and not much else.
Journalism of yesteryear is lost and is not being ... (show quote)


I couldn't have said it better myself ... what passes for journalism today sure ain't the same as Walter Winchell had, nor Drew Pearson, nor even Huntley/Brinkley. But so many flakes pass themselves off as "journalists" that it's difficult to separate the wheat from the chaff, and there's precious little wheat and a ton of chaff. I hope we survive all this and emerge with a press that relearns investigative journalism and unbiased reporting. Probably a fantasy, because people would rather believe a far-fetched conspiracy theory than plain, old, boring truth. Just my humble opinion ... your mileage may vary.

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Aug 4, 2018 08:28:51   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
They're like the vagina-hat protesters shouting and screaming to silence everyone else.

They know they can't debate the facts, so they spam stupid crap in order to hide their failures.

This is why I ignore the worst offenders.

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Aug 4, 2018 08:45:58   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
debeda wrote:
Yes. Democrats. The party of reality. And 47 genders. Lolololololololhahahahahaha


A great point!

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Aug 4, 2018 08:47:03   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
working class stiff wrote:
Your post only betrays your own idiocy. The only reason liberals seem stupid to you is because you are living in a fantasy land of your own construction. When you get back to reality, then we'll talk. No offense.


When was the last time you saw a conservative wearing a vagina hat?? LOL!

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Aug 4, 2018 08:55:14   #
Fit2BTied Loc: Texas
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
When was the last time you saw a conservative wearing a vagina hat?? LOL!
Or demanding a safe place so they don't have to face reality or shouting down opposing viewpoints because only theirs matters. But it's conservatives who live in their own bubble. Yeah, that's the ticket.

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Aug 4, 2018 10:35:43   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
I'm finding that arguing with the leftists and never Trumps is becoming easier and easier because they are becoming more and more idiotic and just plain stupid. No offense leftist libby's and Trump haters.


Arguing with Leftists?
Where might we find them; other than;

So God Made A Liberal...
https://youtu.be/EUzMPlQb2G4

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Aug 4, 2018 11:31:01   #
Fit2BTied Loc: Texas
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Arguing with Leftists?
Where might we find them; other than;

So God Made A Liberal...
https://youtu.be/EUzMPlQb2G4
That's one of the funniest things I've seen in awhile..."PhD in 17th century Belgian lesbian studies" made me spit out my mouthful of breakfast burrito.



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Aug 4, 2018 12:00:33   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Arguing with Leftists?
Where might we find them; other than;

So God Made A Liberal...
https://youtu.be/EUzMPlQb2G4

I can not believe I listened to the video THREE TIMES and laughed at how the guy made his delivery. It was the best I have seen in a while. Thanks for posting it.

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Aug 4, 2018 12:05:24   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
old marine wrote:
I can not believe I listened to the video THREE TIMES and laughed at how the guy made his delivery. It was the best I have seen in a while. Thanks for posting it.
I can not believe I listened to the video THREE TI... (show quote)


I post it every so often in case someone has missed it.
Funny every time.

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Aug 4, 2018 13:13:54   #
Chocura750
 
Don't worry folks after Trump whenever there will.be a Democrat to clean up the mess.

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