Old People Don't Fight
Jul 28, 2018 18:59:24 #
Plantation, Florida:
Police were called to investigate an attempted armed robbery:
The 72-year-old retired Marine who opened fire on two robbers at a Plantation, Florida, Subway shop late Wednesday, killing one and critically wounding the other, is described as John Lovell, a former helicopter pilot for two presidents.
He doesn't drink, he doesn't smoke, and he works out every day. Mr. Lovell was a man of action Wednesday night. According to Plantation police, two masked gunmen came into the Subway at 1949 N. Pine Rd. just after 11 p.m. There was a lone diner, Mr. Lovell, who was finishing his meal.
After robbing the cashier, the two men attempted to shove Mr. Lovell into a bathroom and rob him as well. They got his money, but then Mr. Lovell pulled his handgun and opened fire.
He shot one of the thieves in the head and chest and the other in the head. When police arrived, they found one of the men in the shop, K-9 Units found the other in the bushes of a nearby business. They also found cash strewn around the front of the sandwich shop according to Detective Robert Rettig of the Plantation Police Department. Both men were taken to the Broward General Medical Center , where one, Donicio Arrindell, 22, of North Lauderdale died. The other, 21-year-old Frederick Gadson of Fort Lauderdale is in critical but stable condition.
Mr. Lovell was a pilot in the Marine Corps, flying former Presidents John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson.
He later worked as a pilot for Pan Am and Delta Airlines. He is not expected to be charged authorities said. ''He was in fear for his life,'' Detective Rettig said, "These criminals ought to realize that most men in their 70's have military backgrounds and aren't intimidated by idiots." Something tells me this old Marine wasn't 'in fear for his life', even though his life was definitely at risk.
The only thing he could be charged with is participating in an unfair fight. One 72- year young Marine against two punks. Two head shots and one center body mass shot. Outstanding shooting! That'll teach them not to get between a Marine and his meal. Florida law allows eligible citizens to carry a concealed weapon.
Don't you just love a story with a happy ending?
Old people don't fight, they just shoot you!
Police were called to investigate an attempted armed robbery:
The 72-year-old retired Marine who opened fire on two robbers at a Plantation, Florida, Subway shop late Wednesday, killing one and critically wounding the other, is described as John Lovell, a former helicopter pilot for two presidents.
He doesn't drink, he doesn't smoke, and he works out every day. Mr. Lovell was a man of action Wednesday night. According to Plantation police, two masked gunmen came into the Subway at 1949 N. Pine Rd. just after 11 p.m. There was a lone diner, Mr. Lovell, who was finishing his meal.
After robbing the cashier, the two men attempted to shove Mr. Lovell into a bathroom and rob him as well. They got his money, but then Mr. Lovell pulled his handgun and opened fire.
He shot one of the thieves in the head and chest and the other in the head. When police arrived, they found one of the men in the shop, K-9 Units found the other in the bushes of a nearby business. They also found cash strewn around the front of the sandwich shop according to Detective Robert Rettig of the Plantation Police Department. Both men were taken to the Broward General Medical Center , where one, Donicio Arrindell, 22, of North Lauderdale died. The other, 21-year-old Frederick Gadson of Fort Lauderdale is in critical but stable condition.
Mr. Lovell was a pilot in the Marine Corps, flying former Presidents John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson.
He later worked as a pilot for Pan Am and Delta Airlines. He is not expected to be charged authorities said. ''He was in fear for his life,'' Detective Rettig said, "These criminals ought to realize that most men in their 70's have military backgrounds and aren't intimidated by idiots." Something tells me this old Marine wasn't 'in fear for his life', even though his life was definitely at risk.
The only thing he could be charged with is participating in an unfair fight. One 72- year young Marine against two punks. Two head shots and one center body mass shot. Outstanding shooting! That'll teach them not to get between a Marine and his meal. Florida law allows eligible citizens to carry a concealed weapon.
Don't you just love a story with a happy ending?
Old people don't fight, they just shoot you!
Jul 28, 2018 19:04:22 #
Michael Rich
Loc: Lapine Oregon
badbob85037 wrote:
Plantation, Florida: br br Police were called to ... (show quote)
What a lovely story.
Jul 28, 2018 20:05:03 #
Another current shooting story out of Florida.
Once again the liberal news media starts playing race cards and wanting to ban anything to do with guns.
That is a strong statement I made above but consider this cut and paste from NBC News....
State prosecutors are currently reviewing if charges are warranted against 47-year-old Michael Drejka, who is white. Police say he fatally shot Markeis McGlockton, a 28-year-old black man, during an argument over a parking space on July 19.
McGlockton, his girlfriend Britany Jacobs, and their three young children pulled into a Clearwater convenience store and parked in handicapped spot.
As McGlockton went inside with his 5-year-old son, Drejka began questioning Jacobs about the space and the pair got into an argument, police said. Surveillance video showed McGlockton emerging from the store and shoving Drejka to the ground.
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In response, Drejka pulled a gun and shot McGlockton in the chest, police said, although it appeared the young father was stepping away from him. He later died at the hospital.
Pinellas County Sheriff Bob Gualtieri said last week that he would not charge Drejka in the case because he was claiming self-defense, and it appeared McGlockton started the incident by physically assaulting Drejka.
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But the McGlockton family's attorney, Benjamin Crump, said Thursday that Drejka was the aggressor by initially approaching Jacobs, and McGlockton was only trying to defend his girlfriend from him.
"It's still ludicrous how you can claim you have fear for your life, yet you approach and start the confrontation with the individuals," Crump told reporters.
Attempts by NBC News to reach Drejka have been unsuccessful.
Florida has been at the center of "stand your ground" cases over the years, allowing citizens to use force if they feel as if their lives are in danger.
Some state lawmakers have called for the law to be repealed in the wake of McGlockton's death, and have been critical of how it affects people of color. A 2015 study in the journal Social Science & Medicine found that a person charged in a "stand your ground" case is twice as likely to be convicted of a crime if they killed a white victim as opposed to a minority."
Ok let us take a look at who is wrong here.
1. The female driver of the vehicle (Jacobs) parked her car in a handicapped parking site while her boyfriend took his young son into the store. (This is a misdemeanor punishable with a $250.00 fine) Also a poor example for three young children under her care.
2. Drejka (a handicapped 47 year old male) objected, exercised his constitutional rights to object to the woman driver for parking in a handicapped space which he had use for. (He did not get closer than five feet and did not assualt her in any way.)
3. Jacobs boyfriend upon witnessing Drejka and his girlfriend having words about parking in a handicapped site without being handicapped themselves, or having a permit in sight allowing them to park their car -- and without witnessing any direct information or verbally defending his girlfriend -- decided that he would just assault and knock the older (handicapped) man to the ground. NOTE: This attack was a felony and should have resulted in his one way trip to the jail....
Summary Drejka, had every reason to expect he might be further attacked and in self defense (stood his ground) and shot the perpetrator.
The lesson here is: Forget the race baiting by NBC and realize the lesson is not to assault other people unless you are yourself defending yourself or another from possible harm from an aggressor. In many states -- If you do assault others -- then be prepared to get shot.
Got it now?
Once again the liberal news media starts playing race cards and wanting to ban anything to do with guns.
That is a strong statement I made above but consider this cut and paste from NBC News....
State prosecutors are currently reviewing if charges are warranted against 47-year-old Michael Drejka, who is white. Police say he fatally shot Markeis McGlockton, a 28-year-old black man, during an argument over a parking space on July 19.
McGlockton, his girlfriend Britany Jacobs, and their three young children pulled into a Clearwater convenience store and parked in handicapped spot.
As McGlockton went inside with his 5-year-old son, Drejka began questioning Jacobs about the space and the pair got into an argument, police said. Surveillance video showed McGlockton emerging from the store and shoving Drejka to the ground.
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In response, Drejka pulled a gun and shot McGlockton in the chest, police said, although it appeared the young father was stepping away from him. He later died at the hospital.
Pinellas County Sheriff Bob Gualtieri said last week that he would not charge Drejka in the case because he was claiming self-defense, and it appeared McGlockton started the incident by physically assaulting Drejka.
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But the McGlockton family's attorney, Benjamin Crump, said Thursday that Drejka was the aggressor by initially approaching Jacobs, and McGlockton was only trying to defend his girlfriend from him.
"It's still ludicrous how you can claim you have fear for your life, yet you approach and start the confrontation with the individuals," Crump told reporters.
Attempts by NBC News to reach Drejka have been unsuccessful.
Florida has been at the center of "stand your ground" cases over the years, allowing citizens to use force if they feel as if their lives are in danger.
Some state lawmakers have called for the law to be repealed in the wake of McGlockton's death, and have been critical of how it affects people of color. A 2015 study in the journal Social Science & Medicine found that a person charged in a "stand your ground" case is twice as likely to be convicted of a crime if they killed a white victim as opposed to a minority."
Ok let us take a look at who is wrong here.
1. The female driver of the vehicle (Jacobs) parked her car in a handicapped parking site while her boyfriend took his young son into the store. (This is a misdemeanor punishable with a $250.00 fine) Also a poor example for three young children under her care.
2. Drejka (a handicapped 47 year old male) objected, exercised his constitutional rights to object to the woman driver for parking in a handicapped space which he had use for. (He did not get closer than five feet and did not assualt her in any way.)
3. Jacobs boyfriend upon witnessing Drejka and his girlfriend having words about parking in a handicapped site without being handicapped themselves, or having a permit in sight allowing them to park their car -- and without witnessing any direct information or verbally defending his girlfriend -- decided that he would just assault and knock the older (handicapped) man to the ground. NOTE: This attack was a felony and should have resulted in his one way trip to the jail....
Summary Drejka, had every reason to expect he might be further attacked and in self defense (stood his ground) and shot the perpetrator.
The lesson here is: Forget the race baiting by NBC and realize the lesson is not to assault other people unless you are yourself defending yourself or another from possible harm from an aggressor. In many states -- If you do assault others -- then be prepared to get shot.
Got it now?
Jul 28, 2018 20:31:25 #
JFlorio
Loc: Seminole Florida
I disagree. The guy doing the shooting has been know to hang there and just wait for people to park in the handicapped then start trouble. Look I am not at all for parking in handicapped when not eligible. Not even for the guy shoving the guy to the ground. I've watched this video many times. It's been on every station in Florida for days. I just don't believe this falls under stand your grand no matter what the sheriffs say. No reason to kill a man for getting shoved. I think this case will get this law changed which hurts us all.
ghostgotcha wrote:
b Another current shooting story out of Florida. ... (show quote)
Jul 28, 2018 20:38:23 #
old marine
Loc: America home of the brave
badbob85037 wrote:
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I recall Grandpaw telling me about a marine friend who had lost his leg in WW2 telling a young punk "I'm too crippled to run, too old to fight so that only leaves me one choice and that is to blow your ass away."
Jul 29, 2018 08:13:48 #
Jul 29, 2018 22:09:41 #
JFlorio wrote:
I disagree. The guy doing the shooting has been kn... (show quote)
Question:
What part of Fla do you live in. Are you a cracker?
Thanks
Jul 29, 2018 22:56:13 #
JFlorio
Loc: Seminole Florida
Live on the West Coast between St. Pete and Clearwater. I'm mostly Italian if that helps.
ghostgotcha wrote:
Question:
What part of Fla do you live in. Are you a cracker?
Thanks
What part of Fla do you live in. Are you a cracker?
Thanks
Jul 30, 2018 10:24:25 #
old marine
Loc: America home of the brave
JFlorio wrote:
Live on the West Coast between St. Pete and Clearwater. I'm mostly Italian if that helps.
I married a beautiful woman from Lake City, Florida God rest her beautiful soul.
Dosent seem like over sixty years ago.
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