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grace scott wrote:
This is a quandary. I'm actually a left leaning centralist; but for these posts, I seem to be liberal. I would be shocked, but of course I would quietly leave.

If one were looking for a simple, polite solution, a sign in the window saying men do not cut women's hair should suffice. But I doubt that is the intent.

Ahh....so the polite solution for a Christian bakery would be a sign in the window stating "We only do wedding cakes for traditional, one man-one woman weddings?


This POTUS has MY vote....of NO CONFIDENCE!!!



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This took place in Canada but how long before it happens right here in the good old USSA? These men refused to cut the woman's hair short because she is a woman. Of course, it is only a short time till this does happen here. Muslim men aren't allowed to cut the hair of women unless they are relatives. Surely our government wouldn't allow such a thing to happen here because of gender. Of course, in their case it was religion and gender so maybe that will be considered by activists here when it happens.

Notice that the blog that printed this story has supplied a source of the story from Canada.

http://godfatherpolitics.com/14563/lesbian-denied-haircut-male-muslim-barbers/


Muslim cab drivers in Minnesota have been refusing to pick up passengers with service dogs or carrying visible bottles of liquor because their religion forbids liquor and compares dogs to pigs, and this has been going on for at least the last 12 years. Yet I know of at least 3 liquor stores being run by Muslims.

As far as I'm concerned, all Muslims unilaterally suck and I wouldn't have one even touch me let alone cut my hair. That lesbian should consider herself lucky she got away without contracting some disgusting disease.


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ginnyt wrote:
Try this one from the Christian bible:

1 Corinthians 5:9

and here are a few more

1 Corinthians 5:2,7 And you are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that …

Psalm 1:1,2 Blessed is the man that walks not in the counsel of the ungodly, …

Proverbs 9:6 Forsake the foolish, and live; and go in the way of understanding.

2 Corinthians 6:14,17 Be you not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship …

Ephesians 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but …

2 Thessalonians 3:14 And if any man obey not our word by this letter, note that man, and …

With more time, I could probably find more.....now perhaps you will say that homosexual behavior is not sinful. Do you need book and passage on that?


Funny, but the examples that Christ gave us are exactly the opposite of those. He spent time with tax collectors(extortionists) and prostitutes.
Amazing how you can quote passages and seem to miss on the meaning part of the bible. Ask yourself, "What would Christ do?" If you honestly think he would say something about doing business for a gay. Then you should go that way and consequences be dammed. If he wouldn't have a problem with it, like I believe, then maybe you shouldn't either.


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What did Christ say to the thief on the Cross with him? He prayed for him... cause he knew he had SINNED. Christ might do the same thing for the Gays too... If he didn't... it wouldnt be in the Bible that they will not enter the Kingdom of God... The Lord wouldnt dismiss anyone... but he would tell them to "Go forth and sin no more"..... cause it's definitely in the Bible.. even in the OLD testamont about homosexuality.... Why did the Lord make ONE MAN.. and ONE WOMAN for.. If he had of only made One man and another man... You and I and the rest of this world would not be here.. it would die out after those two gays died... It just wasn't meant to be... whether anyone wants to accept that or not.. it's fine with me... it's their life they have to worry about.. and I have mine to worry about too...

If the Good Lord says it's harder for a Rich man to enter the kingdom of God than for a camel to go through the eye of a needle... Why would he say that... It should make one wonder.... We all sin every day... it's just a matter when we stop our sinning... when gays lives as they are... they have to choose a path for themselves... do they want to have to go to the place the Bible calls Heaven.. or to the place called Hell.... that choice is theirs to make... No one can make it for them...

The same thing in marriages of the opposite sex... when one member of that family shacks around and doesnt repent..... they will not enter the kingdom of God... they will have to choose to change their ways.. or continue on the path they have chosen.... they have a choice... Do you think if a Gay couple go to church that's gonna save them? Do you think if they asks forgiveness for their sins... God will forgive them... Of Course he will.. but they are not to remain as GAYS...... that choice is their's... to make.

rumitoid

There were a few earlier posts, including one by me, that referenced love, as described in scripture. Though there is an emotional element to love, love in the Bible is the very character of God and never fails. "God is love." This presents a far greater magnitude of nature than how many perceive of love.
Galatians5:22-23: "the fruit of the Spirit is love, and from this comes joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law."

bdamage Loc: My Bunker

"Exactly" HOW am I denying the freedom of an individual's belief?

skott Loc: Bama

Jesus tells us to judge others as we judge ourselves.
And to love others as we love ourselves. Which one or both do we tend to forget the most?
The bible never says being gay is a sin, just that a man laying with a man is a sin.
Its like this. If you ever lie, then you are a liar. But if you are telling a lie you are sinning. Do you see the difference?
When I read the bible, what I get is that Jesus wants us to love God and all peoples. Seems like a lot of haters on here trying to use the bible to bludgeon others into their way of thinking.
The bible says that if your hand causes you to sin, then cut it off. If your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. I go to church at least weekly. I have yet to see anyone who cut off their hand or plucked out their eye.

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ibKelly

Perhaps the owner of the shop should have made it a Private Club Bakery... like some golf courses.... labeling it's for 'MEMBERS only'..... that way... his bakery would be for Members only... and he would charge each member of his private club bakery to pay 1 dollar in fees to stay a member in good standing... that way.. when a gay person wants to join to get his cake made... the owner of the PRIVATE Club Bakery would not be invited as a member... thus eliminating the demands of the homosexuals.... and there would be NOTHING the govt could do about it....

3jack

I still don't give a rip about what is going on in Canada, I'm savvy enough to not equate a foreign event to something that might happen in this country as it just MIGHT NOT happen. I could also care less about what Putin is doing in Ukraine, it's not our problem because we are not the world police, and there is a United Nations available to address that communist dictator that you right wingers view as a leader. Take a good look in the mirror when you speak of someone speaking out about something you don't like...as in my response to what's happening in Canada. As much as you hope, there will be no "regime" change in this country, and that's the only country I worry about. The POS Muslim in the White House is still YOUR President and you can't do crap about it. Do you understand where I stand on this issue? If you don't, then re-read my reply. It might sink in.

rumitoid

There were a few earlier posts, including one by me, that referenced love, as described in scripture. Though there is an emotional element to love, love in the Bible is the very character of God and never fails. "God is love." This presents a far greater magnitude of nature than how many perceive of love.
Galatians5:22-23: "the fruit of the Spirit is love, and from this comes joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law."

Blacksheep

Wow you certainly are opinionated your damn self. Of course Christians and everyone else gets diseases. I just have Effing Muslims, is that okay with you?

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Blacksheep

CRUX! CRUX! The CRUX of the problem. Jeez.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Sorry for the tardiness of this, but I had to read through the entire mess to see your response. It would be helpful if you quoted the other person and then gave comment............makes it easier.

Anyway, you bring up a point. You ask me what your Christ would do. Quite honestly, I do not know what he would have done except advise the person being denied service to go elsewhere. Anyway, that is what a thinking person would do without needing to be told. But, unfortunately we do not live in a world of thinking individuals, we live in a world of self centered whining complaining and those who want to force their ideas and preferences on others.

Now on to the complaint about being able to quote scriptures. The person to whom I was responding said that she/he/it could not find in their Christian bible anyplace that said to avoid homosexuals/sinners. I gave said person examples. If that is a fault, then I am guilty as charged. In a Nation where we are discouraged from following God's laws, I think we should encourage those that can quote scripture. I think we should encourage them to remember and pass that memory on to those that will listen. Because it will be necessary in the New World Order. It will be sooner, rather than later that the Liberal masses will rewrite the bible to fit their views (as has happened with school text books) and they will introduce a "one world religion" where everyone goes to one church. And they will say that it is an EOT religion, not based on race, color, creed and all other religions are in violation of the law. And I can see you now, thinking what an excellent idea; everyone will love one another and be kind and no longer will gays be frowned upon. But, you are forgetting one thing. The reason for a church is not a get together where people sit around and sing kumbaya and hold hands. I could give a flip about the laws of man, I care for the laws of God. You may not even believe in God, but I think that he still believes in us as a race and he is waiting for us to get back to following his laws.

Interesting that you bring up your chriist, but you rarely bring up God. I am Jewish so I hope you will understand that we teach with stories. So, here is one for you. There was a great King, he was good to his people; showered them with love and everything good. Nothing was denied. All his kingdom loved him. He had a son. The son was a good child, but somewhat strong headed. The child was welcomed and everyplace the King went, his son would go along. The child grew and having his father as a teacher, became a fine man. One day the King went into a village with his son. All the people came out, they called the name of the child, they surrounded the child and took him to eat; leaving the King alone standing in the yard. Tell me, what do you think the King felt?

skott Loc: Bama

What did the religion ever do to you? You act like others that just hate Christians.

bdamage Loc: My Bunker

A Lesson in Tolerance

When New Mexico Gov. Susana Martinez had her aides call to schedule a hair appointment, hair stylist Antonio Darden refused. He explained to a local TV station, "Because of her stances and her views on [same-sex marriage], I told her aides no. They called the next day, asking if I'd changed my mind about taking the governor in and I said no." Darden himself is homosexual. So evidently when a photographer doesn't want to take pictures of a same-sex commitment ceremony in New Mexico, that's punishable discrimination. When a homosexual does the same thing, however, it's just fine. If it weren't for double standards, leftists wouldn't have any.

skott Loc: Bama

I don't agree with him either. Discrimination is discrimination, no matter who does it. I just keep hearing the same blah, blah, blah from you. Somehow you love the idea of discrimination. And think that people against discrimination is trying to take away your freedoms. Please show me where in the constitution you get the "right" to discriminate.