lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Well if that’s true he needs to come out with a vengence and sic his people on them arresting all involved! Do it quietly with no disclosure he is and when he gets them off to jail they go!!!

F.D.R.

Mueller's object is to continue to sling mud against the wall knowing even if it doesn't stick it will leave a mark. The plan is to keep slinging until the mid-terms hoping to create enough issues to give Dems the election. If they win it will die out because going to trial would mean possibly exposing themselves, if they loose this will continue until 2020.

woodguru

They were not dismissing being able to "talk" to the 12 Russians, they were rejecting the concept of giving Putin access to our people simply because he wants access to them. That concept was so idiotic that it made Trump look like the moron he is by saying what a great offer that was.

Trump should have said in his toughest little boy voice that we want the 12 operatives, and Putin gets nothing for them.

pafret Loc: Northeast

Which is more moronic, Trump asking Putin for access to some of his people or Putin asking Trump for access to some of ours? Both groups have seemingly engaged in criminal acts so what is your problem with Quid pro Quo?

woodguru

You are right, Putin's offer had a purpose, it was to give FOX and the right wing spin machine fodder for attacking the FBI for their fake charges against Russian GRU operatives.

Watching Putin as the camera would get a shot with him in the background as Trump was talking, there were times Putin was looking at him with a thinly disguised look of disgust for how he unnecessarily goes on and on.

Trump should fear the day Putin doesn't need him anymore, and would if he had any brains.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Fine.... but here is my question, how does Mueller (or anyone) expect to gain access to the "dirty 12" without cooperation from Russia?

You are judging these people as operatives... on what grounds do you base that decision?

Has it crossed your mind that killary made more enemies in Russia than just President Putin? In fact, she made enemies in North Korea and China. These countries had a real tangible reason for not wanting her to be president. Both have the capability to hack into our systems, and we have seen them reach well into Pentagon systems (I saw their handiwork when I worked for DISA). And then there were people in her own campaign staff who saw what was happening and would not have to work hard to get the data.

My point is, if we conduct an investigation without following all leads it will never go away. It will become a conspiracy theory passed from this generation to the next, like the murder of JFK and 911. Further, the FBI will loose the last bit of their creditability.

It is a grave mistake to miss this opportunity. This trip could easily end the investigation or at least point the investigators in a more promising direction. But, with the refusal, we will never know the full story and will only have his words on what happened. Furthermore, it is now obvious that Mueller does not want the truth or the finalize this investigation.

Mikeyavelli

Putin isn't so much interested in the Mueller accusations of 12 Russians out of a phonebook, he's squarely aimed at hilliar and this suddenly very intriguing Magnitzky/Broward/McFaul/Clinton/Obama deal with the billions of dollars taken out of Russia with the help of the American intelligence bureaus.

pafret Loc: Northeast

If Mueller does not gain access he is free to make any assertions he likes, about what they did. Further, based on his unproven accusations he can implicate whomever he pleases and embroil them in defense against unproven accusations. He can either jail them or financially destroy them and in either case he wins.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

I don't think he can jail the "dirty 12" or even the ones he has on trial. He could take it to the World Court, but he would need evidence. He can invoke the Magnitsky Act and freeze all their assets they may hold, to include those in Russia. This would render them poorer than a church mouse if he can get it approved.. All he will need is light evidence of any human rights violation and their money is out of their reach. There is a saying in DC, you tell the lie and I will back you up. I think Muellers entire case has been built on that slogan and the big reason he nor his team will go to Russia. It has nothing to do with the ex-ambassador, he can not be questioned on his activities by Russia, he had diplomatic immunity. That leaves zero excuses for not going. So, we have to think that he has no intentions of winding down this "investigation" or more accurate witch hunt.

king hall Loc: Tucson,AZ.

You're not supprised are You?

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

No.... I am not surprised are you?

Ricktloml

Mueller is who the rabid anti-Trump haters are hanging their hat on. They know his record, he is one of them. You are exactly right. The pursuit of the truth is no part of the Mueller investigation. It has a dual purpose, to destroy Donald Trump, (and send a message to anyone else who tries to clean up the DC swamp,) and to protect Hillary and Obama from the exposure of their corruption and abuse of power.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Agreed and I think that Hillary and Obama has dirt on him that he could not afford having released. Whatever it is must be pretty bad, or bad enough to cost him his job or even taint his civilian prospects. Most public officials in DC has made her naughty or nice list.... it is no secret.

Mikeyavelli

Mueller is the mule who delivered hillary's uranium samples to Russia. Think he did that out of the kindness of his little heart?
Mueller was picked long before Pencilneck Rosenstein appointed him to take down Trump. This is all coordinated, and the lefties are panicking because they think Putin gave Trump all the gory details.

trucksterbud

They don't want the truth to come out because it will accomplish 3 major things:

1)- It will turn the focus from Russia to the DNC and its bad actors..........

2)- It will in fact point the finger DIRECTLY to those who now bash Trump over everything imaginable, and in essence, do away with this Russian Collusion story when Russia tells its side of the story.

3)- Mueller and his EXPENSIVE witch hunt will be brought to a screeching halt....

All the hyperbole leads to one major question:

If Trump is SOOOO guilty, why has he been so unafraid of Mueller's biased investigation to continue, and in dovetail with that question, why has Muellers Team - after so much investigation on so many people - never been able to find ANYTHING to do with Trump and this phony 'Russian Collusion' story...??

The TRUTH is, the FBI can't handle the TRUTH.....