Would one of you smart liberals explaine to me....
Jul 16, 2018 20:59:35 #
Maria Butina, founder of a Russian pro-gun group, buttered up NRA bigwigs as part of President Vladimir Putin’s plan to “advance Moscow’s long-term strategic objectives in the United States," according to a federal indictment. (Anton Novoderezhkin / ZUMAPRESS.com)
If as reported on the news today this Russian spy has hooked up with the NRA? Then for what nefarious reason?
Is it her intention to support a civilian agency with millions of American members -- that they should own guns for the protection of themselves and defense of their country from the invasion of the Russian hordes?
I guess I am missing something here... Explain the logic behind this would you.....
If as reported on the news today this Russian spy has hooked up with the NRA? Then for what nefarious reason?
Is it her intention to support a civilian agency with millions of American members -- that they should own guns for the protection of themselves and defense of their country from the invasion of the Russian hordes?
I guess I am missing something here... Explain the logic behind this would you.....
Jul 16, 2018 21:05:45 #
One of the many explosive charges in the FBI affidavit seeking an indictment against accused Russian spy and influential NRA member Maria Butina is this alarming nugget:
31. On October 4, 2016, U.S. Person 1 sent an email to an acquaintance. The email covered a number of topics. Within the email, U.S. Person 1 stated, “Unrelated to specific presidential campaigns, I’ve been involved in securing a VERY private line of communication between the Kremlin and key POLITICAL PARTY 1 leaders through, of all conduits, the [GUN RIGHTS ORGANIZATION].” Based on my training, expertise, and familiarity with this investigation, I believe that this email describes U.S. Person 1’s involvement in BUTINA’s efforts to establish a “back channel” communication for representatives of the Government of Russia.
We can presume that POLITICAL PARTY 1 is the Republican Party; that’s made clear from the rest of the document. So the question is, which “key leaders” of the Republican Party had secured a “VERY” private line of communication to the Kremlin, in October of 2016?
Person 1 specifically says it is “unrelated” to a presidential campaign; that doesn’t leave too many other options. While figures like Dana Rohrbacher or Scott Walker may hug the NRA tightly, neither can be considered a “key party leader.” Only House leaders, Senate leaders, or top GOP party officials would fit that bill.
According to this affidavit, an unknown number of those leaders had a secure line of communications to the Kremlin in October of 2016, immediately before the elections. For what possible purpose? Are we going to find out who?
And do government investigators already know?
Monday, Jul 16, 2018 · 2:59:42 PM PDT · Hunter
Edited to clarify that the quoted text is from an FBI affidavit against Butina filed upon her arrest, not from an ‘indictment’ against her.
31. On October 4, 2016, U.S. Person 1 sent an email to an acquaintance. The email covered a number of topics. Within the email, U.S. Person 1 stated, “Unrelated to specific presidential campaigns, I’ve been involved in securing a VERY private line of communication between the Kremlin and key POLITICAL PARTY 1 leaders through, of all conduits, the [GUN RIGHTS ORGANIZATION].” Based on my training, expertise, and familiarity with this investigation, I believe that this email describes U.S. Person 1’s involvement in BUTINA’s efforts to establish a “back channel” communication for representatives of the Government of Russia.
We can presume that POLITICAL PARTY 1 is the Republican Party; that’s made clear from the rest of the document. So the question is, which “key leaders” of the Republican Party had secured a “VERY” private line of communication to the Kremlin, in October of 2016?
Person 1 specifically says it is “unrelated” to a presidential campaign; that doesn’t leave too many other options. While figures like Dana Rohrbacher or Scott Walker may hug the NRA tightly, neither can be considered a “key party leader.” Only House leaders, Senate leaders, or top GOP party officials would fit that bill.
According to this affidavit, an unknown number of those leaders had a secure line of communications to the Kremlin in October of 2016, immediately before the elections. For what possible purpose? Are we going to find out who?
And do government investigators already know?
Monday, Jul 16, 2018 · 2:59:42 PM PDT · Hunter
Edited to clarify that the quoted text is from an FBI affidavit against Butina filed upon her arrest, not from an ‘indictment’ against her.
Jul 16, 2018 21:15:37 #
Moldy:
I read a lot of assumptions, presumptions, conjecture and general propaganda in your above post.
Do you have some proof to back up all that BS your spreading around tonight?
Perhaps you cannot just provide a simple answer to my question about her NRA connections?
I am a member of the NRA and no one from that side of the fence wants to take my guns, only you progressive liberal twits.
I read a lot of assumptions, presumptions, conjecture and general propaganda in your above post.
Do you have some proof to back up all that BS your spreading around tonight?
Perhaps you cannot just provide a simple answer to my question about her NRA connections?
I am a member of the NRA and no one from that side of the fence wants to take my guns, only you progressive liberal twits.
Jul 16, 2018 21:21:38 #
ghostgotcha wrote:
Moldy:
I read a lot of assumptions, presumptions, conjecture and general propaganda in your above post.
Do you have some proof to back up all that BS your spreading around tonight?
Perhaps you cannot just provide a simple answer to my question about her NRA connections?
I am a member of the NRA and no one from that side of the fence wants to take my guns, only you progressive liberal twits.
I read a lot of assumptions, presumptions, conjecture and general propaganda in your above post.
Do you have some proof to back up all that BS your spreading around tonight?
Perhaps you cannot just provide a simple answer to my question about her NRA connections?
I am a member of the NRA and no one from that side of the fence wants to take my guns, only you progressive liberal twits.
The connection to the NRA was just an excuse for her to get close to top GOP people. Networking.
Jul 16, 2018 21:45:50 #
You are presuming her intent was the GOP.... Your own cut and paste said: "We can presume that POLITICAL PARTY 1 is the Republican Party" .... QUESTION: Why not the Democratic Party?
Oh, I know, you want it to be the GOP..so it must be the GOP.. Don't you realize that to assume makes an ass out of you?
Oh, I know, you want it to be the GOP..so it must be the GOP.. Don't you realize that to assume makes an ass out of you?
Jul 16, 2018 22:14:17 #
ghostgotcha wrote:
You are presuming her intent was the GOP.... Your own cut and paste said: "We can presume that POLITICAL PARTY 1 is the Republican Party" .... QUESTION: Why not the Democratic Party?
Oh, I know, you want it to be the GOP..so it must be the GOP.. Don't you realize that to assume makes an ass out of you?
Oh, I know, you want it to be the GOP..so it must be the GOP.. Don't you realize that to assume makes an ass out of you?
You know who is implicated in this NRA crap
Jul 16, 2018 22:18:49 #
ghostgotcha wrote:
Why in the world would you ask liberals to explain something like this? I'm hard pressed to remember when a liberal ever explained anything. i Maria Butina, founder of a Russian pro-gun grou... (show quote)
Check out topic: Residents Call Out Pelosi for $1.8 Million Stock Trade.
Jul 16, 2018 22:22:06 #
moldyoldy wrote:
You know who is implicated in this NRA crap
Since you did not place a question mark at the end of the above, I must assume it is a statement... Therefore my reply is:
No moldy. I do not know who is implicated and I suspect you do not either.
Knock off the BS... You are making yourself look stupid...
Now. Understand this twit. Either put up some provable facts or buzz off. I don't have time for your stupidity.
Ghost.
Jul 16, 2018 22:24:38 #
Blade_Runner wrote:
Why in the world would you ask liberals to explain something like this? I'm hard pressed to remember when a liberal ever explained anything.
I know. Stupid question on my part. I had hopes there might be a jewel in the box of rice crispies, but all I got in my spoon was ol'stupid moldy.... My mistake...
Jul 16, 2018 22:32:30 #
ghostgotcha wrote:
i Maria Butina, founder of a Russian pro-gun grou... (show quote)
well that is easy there is no smart liberals !!!!!!!
Jul 16, 2018 23:04:20 #
meridianlesilie wrote:
well that is easy there is no smart liberals !!!!!!!
But, what I said will be proven factual
Jul 16, 2018 23:38:33 #
moldyoldy wrote:
But, what I said will be proven factual
Sure it will, Just as soon as we find out what it was that you said.
Jul 17, 2018 01:54:09 #
ghostgotcha wrote:
i Maria Butina, founder of a Russian pro-gun grou... (show quote)
"Butina was arrested Sunday and charged with conspiracy for acting as an agent of the Russian government without registering".
Manafort II...bullshit.
Jul 17, 2018 01:55:44 #
moldyoldy wrote:
The connection to the NRA was just an excuse for her to get close to top GOP people. Networking.
"Butina was arrested Sunday and charged with conspiracy for acting as an agent of the Russian government without registering".
I guess if she had registered she would have been fine.
Jul 17, 2018 01:57:30 #
moldyoldy wrote:
But, what I said will be proven factual
I don't think she's in trouble for promoting the Russian federation however and with whoever she did it. Read her charge.
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