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Jul 14, 2018 18:06:46   #
Rarewein
 
I'm glad that you had the ability to end the catastrophic event at hand. I am also gladened that you are not living with the images in your head of having to see certain things and the guilt of ending another life.
people say many things except that they forget that a firearm is a tool just an ax, a fire extinguisher or even a hammer would be. there is some people that rival their firearms to the same level and engine summer I would place on his sword and others that look at is it as a glorified paperweight. some are right that there are some people out there that do not feel empowered until they have a firearm. The truth is you are empowered with or without it but properly equipped when the situation comes when you need it.

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Jul 14, 2018 18:22:32   #
EmilyD
 
Rarewein wrote:
I'm glad that you had the ability to end the catastrophic event at hand. I am also gladened that you are not living with the images in your head of having to see certain things and the guilt of ending another life.
people say many things except that they forget that a firearm is a tool just an ax, a fire extinguisher or even a hammer would be. there is some people that rival their firearms to the same level and engine summer I would place on his sword and others that look at is it as a glorified paperweight. some are right that there are some people out there that do not feel empowered until they have a firearm. The truth is you are empowered with or without it but properly equipped when the situation comes when you need it.
I'm glad that you had the ability to end the catas... (show quote)


Well I was glad I had it. I was shaken up a lot at the time (four years ago), but I am alive. And I'm glad the guy did not force the issue, because I know I would have defended myself to the utmost. I really like living. I don't take owning a firearm lightly. I practice at the range every month without exception, and talk to people about their experiences and how they handled it. My brother-in-law is a policeman, and we talk a lot about what's out there on the streets, and it's scarier than a lot of people realize. The really horrible stories are about people who are clinically insane - and there's a lot of those people roaming around, too. Like I said - it only takes one time...

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Jul 14, 2018 18:35:15   #
Rarewein
 
Yes only one time. It could be at home or out and about. That is why I have
a CC. I refuse to be a victim

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Jul 14, 2018 23:52:28   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Airforceone wrote:
What a stupid statement nobody I know owns a gun except for a few that like to hunt. You need a gun to feel like a big man I din’t.
Why would you insert manhood into this?

I wasn't talking about me. Police officers, soldiers, and ordinary citizens are often carrying firearms. Some you see, some you don't.

Handguns can be in the place of a wallet.

Just be hopeful someone is there to protect you or your family if needed. Being thankful isn't necessary, but it is good form.

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Jul 15, 2018 00:13:18   #
EmilyD
 
Super Dave wrote:
Why would you insert manhood into this?

I wasn't talking about me. Police officers, soldiers, and ordinary citizens are often carrying firearms. Some you see, some you don't.

Handguns can be in the place of a wallet.

Just be hopeful someone is there to protect you or your family if needed. Being thankful isn't necessary, but it is good form.

Talk about a gun that can fit in your wallet, check out the Seecamp LWS-32. This little gun shoots hollow point 32's and I can shove it in my pocket if I need to. I have one and it fits nicely in a little change purse inside my handbag. It's got a kick, but it's so small, that it doesn't matter. A great gun for someone who wants easy carry.

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Jul 15, 2018 01:19:12   #
Fit2BTied Loc: Texas
 
EmilyD wrote:
Talk about a gun that can fit in your wallet, check out the Seecamp LWS-32
. Looked at some videos. Seecamp is interesing. Slightly larger, Ruger LCP II gives you 6+1 or 7+1 .380 and locks back after last round. Weight is about the same. Trigger pull is much lighter. Problem with small pistols is hollow point performance is iffy. Rather have either one than nothing.

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Jul 15, 2018 01:37:41   #
EmilyD
 
Fit2BTied wrote:
. Looked at some videos. Seecamp is interesing. Slightly larger, Ruger LCP II gives you 6+1 or 7+1 .380 and locks back after last round. Weight is about the same. Trigger pull is much lighter. Problem with small pistols is hollow point performance is iffy. Rather have either one than nothing.


Yeah...see your point. Reviews of the Seecamp efficiency, though, are pretty supportive..especially in the situation I was in...in my situation, the Seecamp might not have scared away the guy because it's so little. The Glock worked, thank goodness. But the Seecamp is good for out on the street late at night as a woman, imo, and a lot of young women are liking the Seecamp. A 32 is a 32, and it gets the "job" done in self defense.

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Jul 15, 2018 01:45:41   #
Fit2BTied Loc: Texas
 
All good points.

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Jul 15, 2018 03:17:58   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Fit2BTied wrote:
I don't know Kev...certainly NOT the kind of anal retentive jackass who speaks like you do with a tagline that in part reads - "kindly forgo all civility in your discourse . . . you are, after all, anonymous."
As well as acrimonious.

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Jul 15, 2018 05:25:56   #
PeterS
 
Rarewein wrote:
If you ever had to end a life you would not even play claiming it fun. Self-Defense it's just that. Nulling a threat to your safety and or others around you. A gun is last resort but if needed better too have than fall victim forfeiting your life.

Peter, I hope you're never put in that position. Terrible choice to be forced into but still better than not having any options and being slave to scenario.

Hey, if I need to defend myself couldn't I get a revolver to do that? Or hell even a shot gun loaded with buckshot would pretty much level ANY playing field. I have no problem in defending ones self. The problem I have is the need to defend ones self with semi-automatic weapons or nothing at all.

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Jul 15, 2018 05:28:50   #
Rarewein
 
So your whole issue it's a semi auto? Question when you need to travel do you go horse back? Or do you tow the family in covered wagon?

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Jul 15, 2018 05:30:59   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
PeterS wrote:
Hey, if I need to defend myself couldn't I get a revolver to do that? Or hell even a shot gun loaded with buckshot would pretty much level ANY playing field. I have no problem in defending ones self. The problem I have is the need to defend ones self with semi-automatic weapons or nothing at all.
I guess you didn't know that the vast-vast majority of semi-auto weapons owners also own other weapons. Most often a large variety.

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Jul 15, 2018 07:10:43   #
PeterS
 
Rarewein wrote:
So your whole issue it's a semi auto? Question when you need to travel do you go horse back? Or do you tow the family in covered wagon?

I use to hunt elk on horse back. I used a 6 shot 30-06 with 180 grain bullets. I tried 220 grain but didn't like the drop at 300 yards--a typical elk shot. I shot two elk in my life--one with 1 shot and one with 2 shots--though if I had just tracked him he would have bleed out from the first bullet. Why on earth would you hunt big game with anything less than sufficient to take them down?

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Jul 15, 2018 07:34:34   #
Rarewein
 
Nice to circumvent answering the question at hand. we are not hunting elk this is not a game this is about someone defending themselves and doing so with a training course. I am quite sure first time you picked up a firearm you needed some good training if somebody is going to rely on a firearm to help defend them in time of need shouldn't they have sufficient training to actually real the gun safely and effectively. all you do is State your opinion and then anytime somebody challenges it with a valid argument you turn around and go totally off pendant and still claim that you're correct. And then challenged the idea is still just that and idea you have no proof to your statement that people should not own semi-automatics for self-defense. People claiming that someone's manhood is fulfilled or the feeling that it's for filled with a firearm is absolutely ignorant. I know women that own more firearms and I know men that own firearms with the exception of hunters. To put your fingers in your ears and spout off ignorance does not make you correct. just makes you loud obnoxious and completely ignorant to the topics that you're claiming expertise. I will not respond to any more of your comments because you shown your cards and quite frankly I don't want to play your game enjoy the day

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Jul 15, 2018 09:04:03   #
PeterS
 
Rarewein wrote:
Nice to circumvent answering the question at hand. we are not hunting elk this is not a game this is about someone defending themselves and doing so with a training course. I am quite sure first time you picked up a firearm you needed some good training if somebody is going to rely on a firearm to help defend them in time of need shouldn't they have sufficient training to actually real the gun safely and effectively. all you do is State your opinion and then anytime somebody challenges it with a valid argument you turn around and go totally off pendant and still claim that you're correct. And then challenged the idea is still just that and idea you have no proof to your statement that people should not own semi-automatics for self-defense. People claiming that someone's manhood is fulfilled or the feeling that it's for filled with a firearm is absolutely ignorant. I know women that own more firearms and I know men that own firearms with the exception of hunters. To put your fingers in your ears and spout off ignorance does not make you correct. just makes you loud obnoxious and completely ignorant to the topics that you're claiming expertise. I will not respond to any more of your comments because you shown your cards and quite frankly I don't want to play your game enjoy the day
Nice to circumvent answering the question at hand.... (show quote)


Well, my wife's best friend killed a rapist when he got up to take a piss with a S&W .38 six shot revolver. And the thing is, she pumped 6 shots into him before he could hit the floor. And if a .38 isn't enough of a gun for you than how about a .44 magnum which has been used to take down a grizzly bear? Would that be enough killing power for you? And I thought you conservative were all for gun owners being well trained on the guns they owned. My 30-06 I shot hundreds of rounds through it and I knew where it would hit up to and beyond 500 yards. My shot gun I shot an equal number through it at clay targets so I knew where I could shoot and hit any bird. Why would you want people on the streets with guns they had no business holding? Semi-automatics for self defense? Why would you need them if you were trained to use a gun? Hell, a conservative even told me about quick shooter's who could load a revolver as fast as a semi-automatic. Isn't that what you should be aiming for instead of putting people out on the streets who are qualified to hold a gun in their hands...

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