Peewee wrote:
Who said she was a man? You, reread your post.
Your post is undeserving of a reply. So why did you reply?
Actually, I knew all that before you posted.
Why did fib about her being a Frenchman? I know why BB doesn't like you, I don't either. Any questions?
Peewee, read my lips, or at least listen very carefully. No one, including myself, said Joan of Arc was a Frenchman.
And who cares whether you like me or not? Anybody?
Peewee, this is a test: What do you think of my media comment?
Let me know how you feel about the topic "Paris Notes*. When you get a brain, that is.
This puts me in mind of "The Walden Fallacy" from Frank Herbert's "The Dosadi Experiment":
"Behavioral engineering in all of its manifestations always degenerates into merciless manipulation. It reduces all (manipulators and manipulated alike) to a deadly "mass effect". The central assumption, that manipulation of individual personalities can achieve uniform behavioral responses, has been exposed as a lie by many species but never with more telling effect than by the Gowachin on Dosadi. Here, they showed us the "Walden Fallacy" in ultimate foolishness, explaining: "Given any species which reproduces by genetic mingling such that every individual is a unique specimen, all attempts to impose a decision matrix based on assumed uniform behavior will prove lethal."
Think Social Cognitive Theory.
Marsinah wrote:
Think Social Cognitive Theory.
No thanks, psychobabble ruins my lunch...
Lets get back to Joan of Arc. I believe the 'she looked like a man narrative'
was something that TPTB at that time put a label on to discredit her. I studied
a lot of art work and many oil paintings show Joan of Arc to be quite lovely.
Now on the other hand many line art drawings not so much.
And to address the 'she looked like a man narrative', how else would anyone look
outfitted to the hilt in total body armor?
Crayons wrote:
No thanks, psychobabble ruins my lunch...
Lets get back to Joan of Arc. I believe the 'she looked like a man narrative'
was something that TPTB at that time put a label on to discredit her. I studied
a lot of art work and many oil paintings show Joan of Arc to be quite lovely.
Now on the other hand many line art drawings not so much.
And to address the 'she looked like a man narrative', how else would anyone look
outfitted to the hilt in total body armor?
It was a very long time ago, but I understand that George Bernard Shaw, who referred to her as the first Protestant saint (because when her interrogators tried to make her feel she was sinning against the Church, she replied: "God first served") portrayed her as somewhat homely.
Since this is a Mark Twain thread, I will need to inform you that Twain called her the "...most extraordinary person the human race has ever produced". I'm sure her looks reflected that.
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