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Jul 8, 2018 13:57:41   #
kemmer
 
Homestead wrote:
Oh really?

Seems to me it was Trump that cancelled the meeting when Rocket boy hesitated and didn't seem to take it seriously.

Once Trump cancelled it, it was Rocket Boy that begged to get it back and it was Rocket Boy that returned three American citizens, without getting a dime for them.

In the meantime Trump hasn't reduced a single sanction against North Korea and when China was allowing North Korea to get supplies through third parties, Trump was quick to call them out for that.

North Korea wasn't gained a damn thing yet!

It doesn't have the resources, trade or money to do a lot of anything, beyond whatever it has in its coffers now.

And if it spends that foolishly, it will live to regret it.

I don't care what it does.

If it tries to keep its nukes, Trump has promised him fire and furry, the likes of which the world has yet to see.

You're too brain dead to notice, but, Trump is the kind of person that keeps his promises.

Kimmy boy is on thin ice.
He has some decisions to make.
No one can make them for him.

But, Trump can damn sure hold him accountable for making the wrong decisions.

The choice is up to Kimmy, as to which direction he takes.
Oh really? br br Seems to me it was Trump that ca... (show quote)


Kim played Trump like a fiddle. Pompeo just came home saying his meeting in NK was “encouraging”, but NK said the meeting was very disturbing. WH = Amateur Hour.

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Jul 8, 2018 14:21:04   #
Homestead
 
permafrost wrote:
Kim got on the international stage.. Like the big boys..

Kim got the postponement of military exercises which have been bothering NK for decades.

Kim got to summon the big man of the USA to his part of the world, as if Kim was the big dog he wishes to be..

What did the orange fool get??? nothing, they are still working on the remains of 200 Americans killed in the 50s war..


permafrost wrote:
Kim got on the international stage.. Like the big boys..


You're not too bright, so I guess you didn't notice that Rocket Boy has been on the international stage for quite some time.
Or maybe you forgot that he was developing long range missiles to carry his nuclear war heads to land in cities like San Francisco.
It was also North Korean scientists that were helping Iran with their nuclear weapons program. In fact the only thing that slowed Iran down with its nuclear program was the Israel special forces that were successful in killing off Iran's nuclear scientists.
If fact we we know that Rocket boy had developed nuclear war heads and delivered some to Iran.

US Intelligence Community Claims North Korea Transferred 3 Nuclear Warheads To Iran – OpEd
December 10, 2017


It is widely agreed that Pyongyang has dramatically deepened its partnership with Tehran’s ‘Axis of Resistance.’ This according to the 16 agency US Intelligence Community as well as some Asian powers. All are said to believe that the DRNK-IROI partnership seeks the ability to launch nuclear weapons into their perceived enemies. Another recent report has it that North Korea has been benefiting from technical assistance from Russia and Pakistan and sharing some of it with Iran while committing about 25 percent of North Korea’s entire gross domestic product to its nuclear weapons program and much of that to missiles.

More than thirteen years ago, in January 2004, the director of North Korea’s Yongbyon Nuclear Scientific Research Center handed an American visitor from Oregon a sealed glass jar tightly packed with plutonium, apparently to convince the skeptical fellow that his country possessed a nuclear deterrent but only to be used if threatened.
In December 2012, North Korea completed its first successful launch of a long-range ballistic missile, confirming American fears that the so-called hermit kingdom had finally acquired the technology to pose a threat to American shores. Critically, according to Asian policy experts, “North Korea’s sudden success on December 12th was not the result of good fortune but rather was the fruition of its increasing instructional cooperation with Iran.”

The three DRNK Nuclear warheads and the ‘dirty bomb’ deliveries to Iran allegedly took place during the Spring of 2017. They were transported under heavy guard from Pyongyang’s Sunan International Airport on four separate North Korean regularly scheduled passenger flights of its Air Koryo airline to Iran Air at Russia’s Vladivostok airport in Russia. Whether anyone in Russa knew what the cargo bays held is weak speculation. The U.S. Treasury Department had sanctioned Air Koryo in December 2016 for financially aiding the Kim regime and its ballistic missile program. According to the IC, the Nuclear warheads were then forwarded to Tehran via Russia’s state carrier, Aeroflot, flying through Chinese airspace. All events being egregious violation of U.N. sanctions that prohibited Iran at the time from “any activity related to ballistic missiles capable of delivering nuclear weapons,” and North Korea from “exporting nuclear and missile technology.”

https://www.eurasiareview.com/10122017-us-intelligence-community-claims-north-korea-transferred-3-nuclear-warheads-to-iran-oped/


Israel's Mossad Trained Assassins of Iran Nuclear Scientists, Report Says
https://www.haaretz.com/1.5183498

‘Hundreds’ of North Korean Nuke Scientists in Iran
Hundreds of nuclear scientists from North Korea, whose leader Kim Jong-il died Saturday, are working in 10 different locations in Iran, The South Korean-based Korea Times reported this week.

North Korea has been known to be working closely with Iran, Pakistan and Syria on nuclear development, but the disclosure of the number of scientists in the Islamic Republic spells out the close ties between the two powers, part of what Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman has called the ”axis of evil.”

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/150851

permafrost wrote:
Kim got the postponement of military exercises which have been bothering NK for decades.


What he got postponed was war games scheduled for 2020.
They took them off the todo list.
You know how hard it would be to put them back on the todo list?

I'll give you a hint, it requires the use of a pencil!

In the meantime, not one ship or fleet has left the area. every ship that would have been engaged in the war games is still in the area, none of them have left.
If that's a win for Kim, it's not much of a win.
And all of the economic and political sanctions are still in place.


permafrost wrote:
Kim got to summon the big man of the USA to his part of the world, as if Kim was the big dog he wishes to be..


On the world stage Rocket man got schooled by Trump.

Trump did not go to North Korea.
Rocket boy had to give up his standard, "get US troops out of South Korea," or they'd be no talks.
Trump was the first to cancel the summit and Rocket Boy had to beg to get it back.

I know your brain is handicapped, because of its size and you're not able to hold on to much for later recall, but, Trump has already been to China, Japan and South Korea so Trump has been in that part of the world.


permafrost wrote:
What did the orange fool get??? nothing, they are still working on the remains of 200 Americans killed in the 50s war.


The Trump-Kim summit should be hailed as a success

Kim apparently agreed not only to the principle of denuclearization, but to some sort of inspection regime.

North Korea and the U.S. are still technically at war
But there was never any realistic expectation that a single meeting between two men could produce a comprehensive deal. For starters, a comprehensive deal would have to include China, Russia, and South Korea. And, of course, there will be details to be ironed out. President Ronald Reagan's historic Reykjavik summit with Mikhail Gorbachev — the obvious template for what Trump is trying to do with Kim — happened in 1986, and the resulting Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty only happened in 1987.

Trump and Kim do seem to have built real rapport, and the peace process with North Korea seems more alive now than at any point since the 1990s.

Given what could be realistically accomplished in one day, it's hard not to think that if anybody other than Trump were president, the summit would immediately have been hailed a preliminary success.

And really, credit needs to be given where it's due. It does seem like it was Trump's contempt for conventional thinking, and his dealmaking instincts, that got us here. The official U.S. policy was to refuse these kinds of meetings unless there were major concessions from the North Koreans, as these would grant North Korea "legitimacy." That policy seems to have simply alienated North Korea's leadership. Thinking like a real estate developer, Trump understood that giving Kim a photo-op costs him nothing. Besides, such "legitimacy" matters little for a regime that, domestically, controls all of its media and can therefore manufacture it at will, and internationally has pretty clearly accepted its rogue status. Simple-mindedness can be destructive, but it can also mean you see the forest for the trees. Trump blithely cut to the heart of the issue at hand: Does Kim want normalization badly enough that he's willing to give up his nukes?

http://theweek.com/articles/778247/trumpkim-summit-should-hailed-success

And no one, before Trump, had any success at al in getting the remains of our fallen soldiers home from North Korea.
Obviously you're a liberal so you don't care about anybody but yourself, but there are parents, wives, sons and daughters that still want their people home, where they can be laid to rest with other members of their families. No one has been able to help them until Trump came along.

I'm sorry for you that you see no value in that.
But then, you're a heartless liberal, what else can be expected from you?

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Jul 8, 2018 14:26:00   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Kevyn wrote:
You forgot his best choice, he does whatever the hell he wants and Trump pretends some sort of pretend deal really happened to save face. Kim used Trump like a two dollar whore. Wait until he gets rolled by Putin and try’s to con you into thinking he didn’t.
Maybe it is time that fat crazy little bastard did something for his own people, like provide them with some electricity and food.



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Jul 8, 2018 15:49:14   #
rumitoid
 
kemmer wrote:
Kim played Trump like a fiddle. Pompeo just came home saying his meeting in NK was “encouraging”, but NK said the meeting was very disturbing. WH = Amateur Hour.


Haha, yes.

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Jul 8, 2018 17:57:27   #
Homestead
 
rumitoid wrote:
Haha, yes.


If Kimmy is winning over Trump, he sure complains a lot.

N. Korea Slams US as ‘Gangster-like’ in Nuke Talks
https://www.libertyheadlines.com/n-korea-slams-us-as-gangster-like-in-nuke-talks/

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Jul 8, 2018 17:58:51   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
rumitoid wrote:
If the topic was about Hillary, sure we could talk. She is disgusting.


Rummy, did you watch the Pompeo briefing from Japan? Did you hear what Japan and SK had to say? No sanctions are being lifted until NK complies with Kim's agreed upon terms, we have it in writing from Kim himself. Unless Kim has been overthrown he is still the NK supreme leader. This is just sound and fury and will pass, otherwise, we bomb them and take out his nukes ourselves or tighten the thumb screws tighter.

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