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Being pro American pro-freedom and pro-liberty is being labeled "Anti-Obama" by those who are trying to eliminate the very principles this country has at its foundation!
Mar 2, 2014 00:22:09   #
Will I am Loc: Tucson, Arizona
 
Just because some of us are in favor of anything relevant to keeping anything to do with individual freedom and liberty does not mean we are anti-Obama.

Which showed its face in this country first, freedom and liberty or Mr. Obama?

So, those of us who see the importance of freedom and liberty, and would rather fight for it than just "move on" actually are fighting for the same principles our founding fathers saw as worth fighting for, and a lot of what Mr. Obama is un-Constitutionally taking from us. Therefore, Mr. Obama is anti-liberty, anti-freegom and anti-American!

The term "anti-Obama", as well as calling people who do not agree with what he is doing "racist" is the socialists way of worming there way off our point.
I use a power wheelchair, but you don't hear me calling anyone that has steps in front of their house, or disagrees with me, as prejudice against those of us who use wheelchairs. That is the kind of logic being used to come up with terms like anti-Obama, or calling people who do not agree with him racist.

Don't fall for the fancy rhetoric strategies Mr. Obama and his culprits are using. This is America and standing up for our freedom and liberty is not "anti-Obama." Yes, in America we have to defend our freedom and liberty. In America, if some one becomes President, and then repeatably doesn't follow the Constitution by ignoring the need to have Congress' approval for things, ignores our vital Bill of Rights when starting things like Obamacare, and spends money like he thinks we like /desire the inflation it creates.

The government and citizens of this country, as well as the rest of the world all have to realize pro-Freedom, pro-Liberty and pro-American is mistakenly being labeled anti-Obama and racist by those who are trying to destroy the country, the dollar and everything else we all value so much and had for so long there are a great deal of citizens who take it all for granted.

WE ALL NEED TO TALK WITH OUR HOUSE REPS & SENATORS ABOUT THEIR NEED TO STAND UP, TAKE THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL JOBS BACK FROM THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH, PUT A STOP TO ALL OF THIS UN-AMERICANISM AND START THE TALK ABOUT IMPEACHMENT!

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Mar 2, 2014 01:41:45   #
Brian Devon
 
Will I am wrote:
Just because some of us are in favor of anything relevant to keeping anything to do with individual freedom and liberty does not mean we are anti-Obama.

Which showed its face in this country first, freedom and liberty or Mr. Obama?

So, those of us who see the importance of freedom and liberty, and would rather fight for it than just "move on" actually are fighting for the same principles our founding fathers saw as worth fighting for, and a lot of what Mr. Obama is un-Constitutionally taking from us. Therefore, Mr. Obama is anti-liberty, anti-freegom and anti-American!

The term "anti-Obama", as well as calling people who do not agree with what he is doing "racist" is the socialists way of worming there way off our point.
I use a power wheelchair, but you don't hear me calling anyone that has steps in front of their house, or disagrees with me, as prejudice against those of us who use wheelchairs. That is the kind of logic being used to come up with terms like anti-Obama, or calling people who do not agree with him racist.

Don't fall for the fancy rhetoric strategies Mr. Obama and his culprits are using. This is America and standing up for our freedom and liberty is not "anti-Obama." Yes, in America we have to defend our freedom and liberty. In America, if some one becomes President, and then repeatably doesn't follow the Constitution by ignoring the need to have Congress' approval for things, ignores our vital Bill of Rights when starting things like Obamacare, and spends money like he thinks we like /desire the inflation it creates.

The government and citizens of this country, as well as the rest of the world all have to realize pro-Freedom, pro-Liberty and pro-American is mistakenly being labeled anti-Obama and racist by those who are trying to destroy the country, the dollar and everything else we all value so much and had for so long there are a great deal of citizens who take it all for granted.

WE ALL NEED TO TALK WITH OUR HOUSE REPS & SENATORS ABOUT THEIR NEED TO STAND UP, TAKE THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL JOBS BACK FROM THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH, PUT A STOP TO ALL OF THIS UN-AMERICANISM AND START THE TALK ABOUT IMPEACHMENT!
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You need to define your terms.

LIBERTY to Patrick Henry was the LIBERTY to own slaves.

FREEDOM to Thomas Jefferson was the FREEDOM to own slaves, breed them like cattle, break up their families at will and to force the young pretty slaves to have sex (rape)

UN-AMERICAN can be anything. Many of us consider racists, sexists, anti-semites, and homophobes as being the most UN-AMERICAN, ANTI-FREEDOM, ANTI-LIBERTY OF ALL.

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Mar 2, 2014 04:22:53   #
J Anthony Loc: Connecticut
 
"Anti-Obama" is "fancy rhetoric?" Sounds like it's being called what it is. I'm no fan of B.O., but blaming him for everything is a major cop-out.

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Mar 2, 2014 06:34:14   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
J Anthony wrote:
"Anti-Obama" is "fancy rhetoric?" Sounds like it's being called what it is. I'm no fan of B.O., but blaming him for everything is a major cop-out.


You get the government you vote for, (or can't be bothered to vote for ). Unfortunately, so do I.

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Mar 2, 2014 11:47:57   #
Will I am Loc: Tucson, Arizona
 
Brian Devon wrote:
You need to define your terms.

LIBERTY to Patrick Henry was the LIBERTY to own slaves.

FREEDOM to Thomas Jefferson was the FREEDOM to own slaves, breed them like cattle, break up their families at will and to force the young pretty slaves to have sex (rape)

UN-AMERICAN can be anything. Many of us consider racists, sexists, anti-semites, and homophobes as being the most UN-AMERICAN, ANTI-FREEDOM, ANTI-LIBERTY OF ALL.


Of course the definitions below include the presumption that you have no wishes or desires to control others, do anything that creates a victim, own any slaves, or has any cost going to someone else involuntarily.

Liberty-- The power to do as one wishes.

Freedom-- Exemption of political, personal and/or financial external control.

un-American-- A pejorative term of U.S. political discourse which is applied to people or institutions in the United States seen as deviating from what are widely perceived to be fundamental American cultural and political values.

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Mar 2, 2014 13:41:39   #
Will I am Loc: Tucson, Arizona
 
Brian Devon wrote:
You need to define your terms.

LIBERTY to Patrick Henry was the LIBERTY to own slaves.

FREEDOM to Thomas Jefferson was the FREEDOM to own slaves, breed them like cattle, break up their families at will and to force the young pretty slaves to have sex (rape)

UN-AMERICAN can be anything. Many of us consider racists, sexists, anti-semites, and homophobes as being the most UN-AMERICAN, ANTI-FREEDOM, ANTI-LIBERTY OF ALL.


Well, if you consider being racist un-American, then you need to go to the other side of that coin and realize calling someone racist, with no evidence or racist past (innocent until proven guilty), as an attempt to invalidate her/his perspective, is just as un-American. And this is an un-American aspect of the current administration.

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Mar 2, 2014 15:07:03   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Will I am wrote:
Well, if you consider being racist un-American, then you need to go to the other side of that coin and realize calling someone racist, with no evidence or racist past (innocent until proven guilty), as an attempt to invalidate her/his perspective, is just as un-American. And this is an un-American aspect of the current administration.


It depends on your definition of racist, or homophobe or anti-Semite. According to Brian, if you dislike a black thug you are a racist, no matter how well you get along with other blacks. Although I generally support gay rights, I am an obvious homophobe because I don't mind calling an obnoxious faggot an obnoxious faggot. I am apparently an anti-Semite because.... I don't know. You see, Brian thinks the American Revolution was a big mistake, and we should have stayed loyal subjects to the British Crown. Funny how someone who claims to oppose slavery has such a longing to be a subject. He thinks the Revolution was fought so George Washington could keep his slaves. He thinks the Civil War was fought over slavery, even though Lincoln said repeatedly he would not abolish it, and stated publicly that he opposed black equality, and the clear evidence of the Emancipation Proclamation, which only freed the slaves in the Southern States, and excluded W VA and the New Orleans area, which was controlled by Union forces, and contained a large number of black slave owners and traders. Funny how Liberals are only tolerant of agreeable points of view. God help you if you attempt to correct their re-write of history.

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Mar 2, 2014 20:33:54   #
PhilosophyMan Loc: Washington state.
 
banjojack wrote:
It depends on your definition of racist, or homophobe or anti-Semite. According to Brian, if you dislike a black thug you are a racist, no matter how well you get along with other blacks. Although I generally support gay rights, I am an obvious homophobe because I don't mind calling an obnoxious faggot an obnoxious faggot. I am apparently an anti-Semite because.... I don't know. You see, Brian thinks the American Revolution was a big mistake, and we should have stayed loyal subjects to the British Crown. Funny how someone who claims to oppose slavery has such a longing to be a subject. He thinks the Revolution was fought so George Washington could keep his slaves. He thinks the Civil War was fought over slavery, even though Lincoln said repeatedly he would not abolish it, and stated publicly that he opposed black equality, and the clear evidence of the Emancipation Proclamation, which only freed the slaves in the Southern States, and excluded W VA and the New Orleans area, which was controlled by Union forces, and contained a large number of black slave owners and traders. Funny how Liberals are only tolerant of agreeable points of view. God help you if you attempt to correct their re-write of history.
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thats not what I was taught.

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Mar 2, 2014 21:45:00   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
PhilosophyMan wrote:
thats not what I was taught.


That is my take on what someone else thinks. I did a post on black slave owners in the US. The Libs had a field day until I revealed my main source as being an article from MSNBC. Afterwards, the silence would have been deafening had it not been for crickets chirping.

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Apr 28, 2014 12:55:39   #
Will I am Loc: Tucson, Arizona
 
J Anthony wrote:
"Anti-Obama" is "fancy rhetoric?" Sounds like it's being called what it is. I'm no fan of B.O., but blaming him for everything is a major cop-out.


Yes, blaming everything on obama is wrong, but on the other hand he is currently on the top of the pyramid we call the Federal Government. So, he is an open target. Senators and House Reps have each other and obama to point their fingers at, when trying to get out of any responsibility for what the Feds are doing, and since he is doing a lot of crap without Congress's approval, he has to be seen as responsible for the direction of things.

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Apr 28, 2014 13:11:30   #
ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV
 
I like what Will I am wrote and after reading all the posts after his first one I find those that are opposing him are disingenuous. At least.

I have decided to really limit my phuck you and other remarks like that. However, several of you deserve that response.

Will I am wrote:
Yes, blaming everything on obama is wrong, but on the other hand he is currently on the top of the pyramid we call the Federal Government. So, he is an open target. Senators and House Reps have each other and obama to point their fingers at, when trying to get out of any responsibility for what the Feds are doing, and since he is doing a lot of crap without Congress's approval, he has to be seen as responsible for the direction of things.

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Apr 28, 2014 14:01:07   #
ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV
 
Hear! Hear! Loki

Loki wrote:
You get the government you vote for, (or can't be bothered to vote for ). Unfortunately, so do I.

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