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Mar 1, 2014 19:44:25   #
Guardian
 
Homestead wrote:
I think your over simplifying a bit. The women below was a 7 year old Austrian when Hitler was elected president by 98%.

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Having a dear friend who was born and raised in Germany, I asked her what happened in Germany when Hitler was in power. She said, " Most Germans didn't know what Hitler was doing" with the Jews, French, Americans, political dissidents, etc. Unless they observed the German soldiers going into a home and dragging out the inhabitants, they had no knowledge of his actions. So I asked about the "ovens". They thought it was a manufacturing company making pottery, etc. until they traveled closer to them and smelled the stench of death. They had no idea of what Hitler was doing at first, until near the end when the U.S. overtook Germany. They were so frightened once they discovered what was happening, that they stayed indoors and away from the Gestapos. It wasn't just Jews that were taken, but anyone, including Ministers, that spoke out against the Furor. That would include French, English, American, German dissidents, those that rescued the Jews and got them out of the country. All of these people died in the ovens...not just Jews.

I worked with a man in Marketing that was extremely knowledgeable. One day it was very hot and he came in with his sleeves rolled up. As he was leaning on my desk reading some advertising, I saw a number tattooed on his forearm, 6 numbers I believe. I was barely 20 years old and asked him why he had that on his arm. He was extremely quiet, then softly whispered, he was in a German concentration camp. "How old were you" I asked. He replied, "7 years old". He had lost his Mother, Father, and two brothers, plus an Uncle to the ovens. "How did you escape", I asked. The day the U.S. Forces broke down the fence surrounding the camp, was the day he was supposed to go for the train ride to Auschwitz. He was saved. They shaved his head and was getting him ready for the trip when our Military broke into the camp. No, there were NO Jews left in the major cities of Germany...they had all been rounded up and eventually most thought they were going to the "showers", when it was nothing but a building of death. Some managed to escape with the help of some very brave German women; but, there were no Jews left working their shops, etc., no matter how well they tried to appease the German govt. It truly was a genocide, with other races just happening to be in the wrong spot at the wrong time.

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Mar 1, 2014 20:13:12   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
No doubt there are problems with Obama care. The law was passed by Congress, challenged by the Republicans over forty times , and then found constitutional by the Supreme Court. There will be over fifty million people that will have health care that didn't before the passing of this act. It is the best that could have been done under the circumstances.
Homestead wrote:
Years ago, I read a story written by one of the Nazi guards that was leading the Jews down into a valley where they were ordered to strip and then lined up in front of a mass grave, where they were then machine gunned down.

This was when Hitler was experimenting with how he was going to solve the Jewish problem. He stopped doing it that way, because, the bullets needed, cost to much and it took to long. Plus, some of the soldiers didn't like shooting the real pretty women. It was after that that Hitler asked for suggestions from his Nazi friends and they decided on the gas chambers.

I'm sure the conversations were very polite as they talked about the final solution.

The former Nazi said that there were only six guards there for the two hundred Jews. If at any time the Jews had made a run for it, there would have been no way they could have stopped them. But, men women and children, stayed obediently in line, did as they were told and were cut down.

The Nazi didn't say how polite they were, when they blew the brains out of the women and children.

Perhaps the Nazi's asked very politely, "ma’am do you mind if I splatter your child’s brains all over you or would you prefer that I shoot you dead first. Or do you think your children would like to see their father blown apart before they are.


I'm done with this politically correct garbage, enough is enough.
Rome is burning and people want me to listen to them fiddle.

People with cancer have had their policies cancelled, people who were beating their sickness, are now literally facing death because of it.


But, hey................ObamaCare was enacted into law, very politely.
Years ago, I read a story written by one of the Na... (show quote)

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Mar 1, 2014 20:18:23   #
Don DeHoff
 
Homestead wrote:
Years ago, I read a story written by one of the Nazi guards that was leading the Jews down into a valley where they were ordered to strip and then lined up in front of a mass grave, where they were then machine gunned down.

This was when Hitler was experimenting with how he was going to solve the Jewish problem. He stopped doing it that way, because, the bullets needed, cost to much and it took to long. Plus, some of the soldiers didn't like shooting the real pretty women. It was after that that Hitler asked for suggestions from his Nazi friends and they decided on the gas chambers.

I'm sure the conversations were very polite as they talked about the final solution.

The former Nazi said that there were only six guards there for the two hundred Jews. If at any time the Jews had made a run for it, there would have been no way they could have stopped them. But, men women and children, stayed obediently in line, did as they were told and were cut down.

The Nazi didn't say how polite they were, when they blew the brains out of the women and children.

Perhaps the Nazi's asked very politely, "ma’am do you mind if I splatter your child’s brains all over you or would you prefer that I shoot you dead first. Or do you think your children would like to see their father blown apart before they are.


I'm done with this politically correct garbage, enough is enough.
Rome is burning and people want me to listen to them fiddle.

People with cancer have had their policies cancelled, people who were beating their sickness, are now literally facing death because of it.


But, hey................ObamaCare was enacted into law, very politely.
Years ago, I read a story written by one of the Na... (show quote)

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Mar 1, 2014 20:33:40   #
Don DeHoff
 
Homestead wrote:
Years ago, I read a story written by one of the Nazi guards that was leading the Jews down into a valley where they were ordered to strip and then lined up in front of a mass grave, where they were then machine gunned down.

This was when Hitler was experimenting with how he was going to solve the Jewish problem. He stopped doing it that way, because, the bullets needed, cost to much and it took to long. Plus, some of the soldiers didn't like shooting the real pretty women. It was after that that Hitler asked for suggestions from his Nazi friends and they decided on the gas chambers.

I'm sure the conversations were very polite as they talked about the final solution.

The former Nazi said that there were only six guards there for the two hundred Jews. If at any time the Jews had made a run for it, there would have been no way they could have stopped them. But, men women and children, stayed obediently in line, did as they were told and were cut down.

The Nazi didn't say how polite they were, when they blew the brains out of the women and children.

Perhaps the Nazi's asked very politely, "ma’am do you mind if I splatter your child’s brains all over you or would you prefer that I shoot you dead first. Or do you think your children would like to see their father blown apart before they are.


I'm done with this politically correct garbage, enough is enough.
Rome is burning and people want me to listen to them fiddle.

People with cancer have had their policies cancelled, people who were beating their sickness, are now literally facing death because of it.


But, hey................ObamaCare was enacted into law, very politely.
Years ago, I read a story written by one of the Na... (show quote)


Sir, you have a mental lock. Being civil has nothing to do with being politically correct. Being civil is the way mature adults communicate on serious matters. One can make their point(s) far more forcibly using civil logic, reason and common sense, and avoiding the game of gutter "mental masturbation", that it appears you want to play---go get your mental kicks elsewhere and let the mature people make serious and meaningful comments. On second thought, if you had to give up the profanity, obnoxious nicknames and gutter talk, you probably would be tongue-tied. Actually, I sense you are a well-informed person and all you have to do is "clean up your act". I apologize for the critical part of my post.

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Mar 1, 2014 20:38:43   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
I don't think that it is useful to compare any part of the government to Nazi Germany. Hitler and his buddies were in a different political universe. The worst Presidents in US history were infinitely better than Hitler!! bet
Don DeHoff wrote:
Sir, you have a mental lock. Being civil has nothing to do with being politically correct. Being civil is the way mature adults communicate on serious matters. One can make their point(s) far more forcibly using civil logic, reason and common sense, and avoiding the game of gutter "mental masturbation", that it appears you want to play---go get your mental kicks elsewhere and let the mature people make serious and meaningful comments. On second thought, if you had to give up the profanity, obnoxious nicknames and gutter talk, you probably would be tongue-tied. Actually, I sense you are a well-informed person and all you have to do is "clean up your act". I apologize for the critical part of my post.
Sir, you have a mental lock. Being civil has nothi... (show quote)

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Mar 1, 2014 21:31:37   #
Guardian
 
Don DeHoff wrote:
Sir, you have a mental lock. Being civil has nothing to do with being politically correct. Being civil is the way mature adults communicate on serious matters. One can make their point(s) far more forcibly using civil logic, reason and common sense, and avoiding the game of gutter "mental masturbation", that it appears you want to play---go get your mental kicks elsewhere and let the mature people make serious and meaningful comments. On second thought, if you had to give up the profanity, obnoxious nicknames and gutter talk, you probably would be tongue-tied. Actually, I sense you are a well-informed person and all you have to do is "clean up your act". I apologize for the critical part of my post.
Sir, you have a mental lock. Being civil has nothi... (show quote)


Mr. Dehoff, are you a liberal? You are intelligent, but not willing to accept that obamacare is the worst disaster to hit America. It hasn't helped anyone. The people who signed up ate saddled with deductibles twice to three times that they paid before this travesty. People are dropping their policies or better yet, NOT SIGNING UP, and choosing to pay the fines instead. Others have lost their homes because they couldn't afford both. If you are 70 years old, obamacare won't let the doctors give you meds to prolong your life...or pain killers. My God man, did you read that mandate? Yes, hundreds of pages, but you need to know how your life WILL CHANGE FOR THE WORSE. It w. as drafted to hurt Americans, not help them. Don't believe the figures this govt quotes abt anything. It's all lies ny manipulation. There is nothing redeemable abt the healthcare mandate...nothing and it must be totally repealed! Do the research...don't be fo
olish and believe the fraud's lies.

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Mar 1, 2014 22:37:15   #
Will I am Loc: Tucson, Arizona
 
Homestead wrote:
The Libertarians will never join with the Democrats.
The Democrats are now socialists and communists.
You cannot have personal freedom under socialism.
The Libertarians are centred on personal freedom, they will never give that up or support any one that does. Hence, the anger towards the Republicans.


Libertarians are more concerned for Individual freedom than personal freedom. Your freedom, and everybody else's freedom is just as important as mine. We are all equal in importance and to center myself on my own freedom misses the point-- This is America!

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Mar 2, 2014 06:37:07   #
stan3186
 
Will I am wrote:
I have been a Libertarian for something like a decade and a half.


This is every bit as bad as a terrorist or foreign country attack, if not worse. We, as Americans have to stop this or else it is going to be the end of the Republic!

"Give Me Liberty, or Give Me Death!"


It is worse, if it was a terrorist or foreign attack, we would rise up and kick their collective asses, but with the President being the terrorist, and the Media and a lot of the people who voted for him, they will do nothing so they can justify what they did. Frankly, unless Congress draws the line and stops him, I think this country is over and will be done within 20 years if not sooner.

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Mar 2, 2014 11:04:38   #
Don DeHoff
 
Guardian wrote:
Mr. Dehoff, are you a liberal? You are intelligent, but not willing to accept that obamacare is the worst disaster to hit America. It hasn't helped anyone. The people who signed up ate saddled with deductibles twice to three times that they paid before this travesty. People are dropping their policies or better yet, NOT SIGNING UP, and choosing to pay the fines instead. Others have lost their homes because they couldn't afford both. If you are 70 years old, obamacare won't let the doctors give you meds to prolong your life...or pain killers. My God man, did you read that mandate? Yes, hundreds of pages, but you need to know how your life WILL CHANGE FOR THE WORSE. It w. as drafted to hurt Americans, not help them. Don't believe the figures this govt quotes abt anything. It's all lies ny manipulation. There is nothing redeemable abt the healthcare mandate...nothing and it must be totally repealed! Do the research...don't be fo
olish and believe the fraud's lies.
Mr. Dehoff, are you a liberal? You are intelligent... (show quote)


Sir, if you check with "Disqus", and read my several hundred posts, you will see I am about as conservative and anti-"administration/Democrat" as they come. I am a staunch Republican and a strict constitutionalist and am reasonably well-versed on the government's health care plan. I am not objecting to "what" you say, just "how" you say it---civility is the "name of the game". The post to which I am responding, is a significant improvement. In addition, I will be 82 years "young" this month, am a retired USAF major (at age 38.) The government's plan has not YET "invaded" the existing retired military health program. I later, spent 30 years working as a Registered "Rep" for a major mutual life insurance company. I have spent most of the last 4-5 years studying the Muslim/Islamic "issue", which I consider to be the most serious problem facing this great country since our civil war---and, "time/health" permitting, I am hope to write a book on the subject.

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Mar 2, 2014 11:51:05   #
Snoopy
 
Don DeHoff wrote:
Sir, if you check with "Disqus", and read my several hundred posts, you will see I am about as conservative and anti-"administration/Democrat" as they come. I am a staunch Republican and a strict constitutionalist and am reasonably well-versed on the government's health care plan. I am not objecting to "what" you say, just "how" you say it---civility is the "name of the game". The post to which I am responding, is a significant improvement. In addition, I will be 82 years "young" this month, am a retired USAF major (at age 38.) The government's plan has not YET "invaded" the existing retired military health program. I later, spent 30 years working as a Registered "Rep" for a major mutual life insurance company. I have spent most of the last 4-5 years studying the Muslim/Islamic "issue", which I consider to be the most serious problem facing this great country since our civil war---and, "time/health" permitting, I am hope to write a book on the subject.
Sir, if you check with "Disqus", and rea... (show quote)



Mr. DeHoff

Thank you for your service to our great country!

I hope we both have enough time left to accomplish are goals.

You will beat me to 82 years of age by 3 months.

Are we the only people (over 50) who see the major problems of this country?

Snoopy

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Mar 2, 2014 12:05:13   #
alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
 
Snoopy wrote:
Mr. DeHoff

Thank you for your service to our great country!

I hope we both have enough time left to accomplish are goals.

You will beat me to 82 years of age by 3 months.

Are we the only people (over 50) who see the major problems of this country?

Snoopy


nope!

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Mar 2, 2014 12:49:42   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
alex wrote:
nope!


Nope!

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Mar 2, 2014 16:01:14   #
stan3186
 
Snoopy wrote:
Mr. DeHoff

Thank you for your service to our great country!

I hope we both have enough time left to accomplish are goals.

You will beat me to 82 years of age by 3 months.

Are we the only people (over 50) who see the major problems of this country?

Snoopy


Nope but I believe the Muslim problem is at least a few years away before it has a major (like in taking over) affect on the U. S.
What is more concerning is the voter fraud and thus keeping the socialist in power without the possibility of removing them and getting our Republic back.
The other is the utter corruptness of the people that supposed are our representatives who do nothing but represent themselves.

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Mar 2, 2014 17:23:21   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
I don't think that you would consider Obama care the worst disaster in American History if your family were some of the fifty five million or so uninsured. You might think that it was a lifesaver!!
Guardian wrote:
Mr. Dehoff, are you a liberal? You are intelligent, but not willing to accept that obamacare is the worst disaster to hit America. It hasn't helped anyone. The people who signed up ate saddled with deductibles twice to three times that they paid before this travesty. People are dropping their policies or better yet, NOT SIGNING UP, and choosing to pay the fines instead. Others have lost their homes because they couldn't afford both. If you are 70 years old, obamacare won't let the doctors give you meds to prolong your life...or pain killers. My God man, did you read that mandate? Yes, hundreds of pages, but you need to know how your life WILL CHANGE FOR THE WORSE. It w. as drafted to hurt Americans, not help them. Don't believe the figures this govt quotes abt anything. It's all lies ny manipulation. There is nothing redeemable abt the healthcare mandate...nothing and it must be totally repealed! Do the research...don't be fo
olish and believe the fraud's lies.
Mr. Dehoff, are you a liberal? You are intelligent... (show quote)

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Mar 2, 2014 19:31:26   #
stan3186
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
I don't think that you would consider Obama care the worst disaster in American History if your family were some of the fifty five million or so uninsured. You might think that it was a lifesaver!!


You are one of two things, stupid or naive, which is it? ObamaCare has not helped the uninsured people. It is too expensive and the deductibles are so large that a middle class family can't pay the deductible. It was better not having insurance because the charity hospitals welcomed the uninsured with open arms. Now that ObamaCare has become law, those hospitals can no longer accept the indigent uninsured. You have been listening to the MSM rhetoric for too long and have been brainwashed.

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