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Mar 1, 2014 10:44:12   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
BigMike wrote:
I have a friend who was once a Muslim. When I asked him why he renounced Islam his exact words were, "Them dudes are just a bunch of haters. I'm not in for all that"


We should look to our own back yard & stop spreading hate our self.

You don't have to read too many post on this site before you have several filled with hate towards some one or other.

Hate just breeds more hate on both sides.

I am not going to say we need to spread love.

But we do need to be more understanding of what is going on & stop with all of this blanket hate.

Things are wrong but the true causes have to be dealt with
on an individual basis.

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Mar 1, 2014 10:49:53   #
Homestead
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
This is true. You should see the Islamic videos shown to children in Palestine, and other Muslim countries. They are hateful, I would like to believe that not all Muslims believe this kind of terrible nonsense.l


To understand Muslims, you must understand that there is no such thing as a moderate Muslim.

When watching the,"The Stages of Jihad," keep in mind, what he says about maybe including a fourth stage of Jihad, The 0 stage and why he suggests it.

If your inclined to doubt it, or feel that it is an exaggeration, then you need to view the link below. This one is about an hour and forty minutes long.

If your pressed for time, then just pay attention to the 10:34 to the 12:00 time mark. If your Muslim, you are required to kill infidels or non-believers.

The old joke that a moderate Muslim, is a Muslim who ran out of bullets, is not far off.


Islam - What the West Needs to Know (full)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4xCdehrV96U#!

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Mar 1, 2014 11:21:18   #
Homestead
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
We should look to our own back yard & stop spreading hate our self.

You don't have to read too many post on this site before you have several filled with hate towards some one or other.

Hate just breeds more hate on both sides.

I am not going to say we need to spread love.

But we do need to be more understanding of what is going on & stop with all of this blanket hate.

Things are wrong but the true causes have to be dealt with
on an individual basis.
We should look to our own back yard & stop spr... (show quote)



Spreading the truth is not hate!

Obama is a fraud. The only two pieces of identification he used to identify himself have been proven to be forgeries 100%, absolutely no doubt. That invalidates his presidency.

Bernard Madoff, the man behind the largest Ponzi scheme in history, is now behind bars because of his fraud. And that is exactingly where Obama should be headed and for the same reason.

ABSOLUTELY NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW, and that includes Obama.

That's not hate, that’s the law.



Islam has declared, that the whole will will say that,

"There is no God but Allah and Mohamed is his messenger."

Or they will have their heads cut off by Muslims, because there are no better people in the world than Muslims, because, they are the true believers, everyone else is an infidel and has no right to live.

It may be hateful on their part to enforce their believe by the threat of death, it is not hateful to point that out or defend yourself from it.


The Communists have declared that their revolution will not be over until the whole world is communist. Just because they've been beat back does not mean that they've quit. Have you paid attention to the Ukraine lately?


The true cause of the conflicts today are ignorant people that refuse to acknowledge the threats they are faced with. They are lazy cowards that want to believe that everything will go away if they just refuse to understand what's happening and stop those people who do understand it from doing anything.

People say that a door matt has a hard life. In reality a door matt just lies there and takes whatever comes at it.

The person that has it hard, is the one who keeps trying to get up or move out of the way, just to get knocked back down and put in harms way again.


But, the biggest insult is when the bystanders, watching this, accuse him of being hateful because, he's trying to defend himself.

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Mar 1, 2014 11:56:54   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Homestead wrote:
Spreading the truth is not hate!

Obama is a fraud. The only two pieces of identification he used to identify himself have been proven to be forgeries 100%, absolutely no doubt. That invalidates his presidency.

Bernard Madoff, the man behind the largest Ponzi scheme in history, is now behind bars because of his fraud. And that is exactingly where Obama should be headed and for the same reason.

ABSOLUTELY NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW, and that includes Obama.

That's not hate, that’s the law.



Islam has declared, that the whole will will say that,

"There is no God but Allah and Mohamed is his messenger."

Or they will have their heads cut off by Muslims, because there are no better people in the world than Muslims, because, they are the true believers, everyone else is an infidel and has no right to live.

It may be hateful on their part to enforce their believe by the threat of death, it is not hateful to point that out or defend yourself from it.


The Communists have declared that their revolution will not be over until the whole world is communist. Just because they've been beat back does not mean that they've quit. Have you paid attention to the Ukraine lately?


The true cause of the conflicts today are ignorant people that refuse to acknowledge the threats they are faced with. They are lazy cowards that want to believe that everything will go away if they just refuse to understand what's happening and stop those people who do understand it from doing anything.

People say that a door matt has a hard life. In reality a door matt just lies there and takes whatever comes at it.

The person that has it hard, is the one who keeps trying to get up or move out of the way, just to get knocked back down and put in harms way again.


But, the biggest insult is when the bystanders, watching this, accuse him of being hateful because, he's trying to defend himself.
Spreading the truth is not hate! br br Obama is a... (show quote)


You are just filled with love. But it isn't clear just who or what it is for.

I say that because the opposite of hate is love & you say you don't hate.

A can not bring my self to either love or hate you.
You are just there. doing what you seem to be in you icon.

In a way it is vary fitting of you.

May be that will help the grass to grow, but I would not smell the flowers that may have it done to.

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Mar 1, 2014 12:30:05   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
I have been watching the news and reading about the Ukraine. For your information, Russia in no longer a Communist country. The Russians are acting like Russians. They are looking to protect their borders from " Western aggression". This is what every Russian regime has done throughout history.
Homestead wrote:
Spreading the truth is not hate!

Obama is a fraud. The only two pieces of identification he used to identify himself have been proven to be forgeries 100%, absolutely no doubt. That invalidates his presidency.

Bernard Madoff, the man behind the largest Ponzi scheme in history, is now behind bars because of his fraud. And that is exactingly where Obama should be headed and for the same reason.

ABSOLUTELY NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW, and that includes Obama.

That's not hate, that’s the law.



Islam has declared, that the whole will will say that,

"There is no God but Allah and Mohamed is his messenger."

Or they will have their heads cut off by Muslims, because there are no better people in the world than Muslims, because, they are the true believers, everyone else is an infidel and has no right to live.

It may be hateful on their part to enforce their believe by the threat of death, it is not hateful to point that out or defend yourself from it.


The Communists have declared that their revolution will not be over until the whole world is communist. Just because they've been beat back does not mean that they've quit. Have you paid attention to the Ukraine lately?


The true cause of the conflicts today are ignorant people that refuse to acknowledge the threats they are faced with. They are lazy cowards that want to believe that everything will go away if they just refuse to understand what's happening and stop those people who do understand it from doing anything.

People say that a door matt has a hard life. In reality a door matt just lies there and takes whatever comes at it.

The person that has it hard, is the one who keeps trying to get up or move out of the way, just to get knocked back down and put in harms way again.


But, the biggest insult is when the bystanders, watching this, accuse him of being hateful because, he's trying to defend himself.
Spreading the truth is not hate! br br Obama is a... (show quote)

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Mar 1, 2014 13:12:39   #
Homestead
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
You are just filled with love. But it isn't clear just who or what it is for.

I say that because the opposite of hate is love & you say you don't hate.

A can not bring my self to either love or hate you.
You are just there. doing what you seem to be in you icon.

In a way it is vary fitting of you.

May be that will help the grass to grow, but I would not smell the flowers that may have it done to.


Yea, I've read history.
On January 30, 1933, the Jews were more interested in smelling the flowers than the guy Hindenburg appointed as chancellor of Germany.

As I recall, that didn't work out to well for them.

Get your head out of your ass, evil doesn't go away just because your to busy smoking dope to worry about it.

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Mar 1, 2014 14:06:29   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Homestead wrote:
Yea, I've read history.
On January 30, 1933, the Jews were more interested in smelling the flowers than the guy Hindenburg appointed as chancellor of Germany.

As I recall, that didn't work out to well for them.

Get your head out of your ass, evil doesn't go away just because your to busy smoking dope to worry about it.


I would say that the Jews were more interested in making money & sending it to Switzerland that looking for a better place to live. Or to become a true part of Germany.

Hitler counted on what had happen to the average German would have them agreeing with him. The average German had a hard life during the 20's. So as Hitler made things better for the average German they turned a blind eye to what was happening to the Jews.

It was the Jewish shop keeps that just keep doing what they were good at which was running a good business.

That they kept sending their money to Switzerland did not help the German economy. With so many people now prisoners & so many more mouths to feed in a economy trying to fight wars The problem of what to do with all of those extra mouths was a big problem. The choice made will always be remembered.

We must never lose sight of the value of every human being.

There is something to be learned here. That is you can be a good business person or you can be a good person. One has to know when they are taking to much out of a system it may not be in their best interest to do so. At some point one needs to save the system that serves them well.

That said, the banking interests & many factories had Jewish owners that did just well through it all. Some people know When to bend in the wind.

As for my self lets just say that no matter if the Right wins or the Left wins I will get by. I have enough money to live in the Rights world & that will mean what ever they do for them self will not hurt me.

If the left wins, well I lean left so if I loose some of what I have. I am still able to do what is needed to get by. I have some skill that come in handy.

For what ever that is worth.

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Mar 1, 2014 15:44:44   #
Will I am Loc: Tucson, Arizona
 
I have been a Libertarian for something like a decade and a half.

All I can remember about abortion happens to be my opinion, and that is since the subject is not in the Constitution, it is none of the Federal government 's business. That is to say the subject can be addressed by the states, or even more locally, but the Federal government has no authority about such subjects.

And calling us "pot smoking conservatives" is an attempt to invalidate our desire for the Federal government to stay away from regulating our personal, victimless liberties, as well as any other of our attempts to shrink the Federal government down to its Constitutionally intended size (and I feel that is why and where the term "pipe dream" comes from).

When Jonathan Turley said what he said on Wednesday

http://www.glennbeck.com/2014/02/27/self-identified-obama-supporter-delivers-a-must-see-critique-of-the-president/

and how what he was saying, regardless of his being an Obama supporter, showed the vital need for the people of this country to realize the means Obama is using, to get his Liberal ideals in action, is destroying the three branch balance the founding fathers created for us and needs to be stopped in order to save this country!

As a Libertarian, I am not yelling "wolf", but as an American I am screaming for the Congress to wake up and take their duties to represent us back from Obama. He should not be taking the power from the Congress as he is doing.
I'd say impeaching him is more important to this country than it was with Nixon, or any other dishonest politician. And I am not saying this because I don't agree with all the socialist programs he is setting up. If the House Representatives the Senators both would pass his bills, then whats done is done, but it is not the President's duty, or privilege for that matter, to start any Federal program, or spend any Federal money without Congressional initiation/passing.

This is every bit as bad as a terrorist or foreign country attack, if not worse. We, as Americans have to stop this or else it is going to be the end of the Republic!

"Give Me Liberty, or Give Me Death!"

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Mar 1, 2014 17:06:17   #
Homestead
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
I would say that the Jews were more interested in making money & sending it to Switzerland that looking for a better place to live. Or to become a true part of Germany.

Hitler counted on what had happen to the average German would have them agreeing with him. The average German had a hard life during the 20's. So as Hitler made things better for the average German they turned a blind eye to what was happening to the Jews.

It was the Jewish shop keeps that just keep doing what they were good at which was running a good business.

That they kept sending their money to Switzerland did not help the German economy. With so many people now prisoners & so many more mouths to feed in a economy trying to fight wars The problem of what to do with all of those extra mouths was a big problem. The choice made will always be remembered.

We must never lose sight of the value of every human being.

There is something to be learned here. That is you can be a good business person or you can be a good person. One has to know when they are taking to much out of a system it may not be in their best interest to do so. At some point one needs to save the system that serves them well.

That said, the banking interests & many factories had Jewish owners that did just well through it all. Some people know When to bend in the wind.

As for my self lets just say that no matter if the Right wins or the Left wins I will get by. I have enough money to live in the Rights world & that will mean what ever they do for them self will not hurt me.

If the left wins, well I lean left so if I loose some of what I have. I am still able to do what is needed to get by. I have some skill that come in handy.

For what ever that is worth.
I would say that the Jews were more interested in... (show quote)


I think your over simplifying a bit. The women below was a 7 year old Austrian when Hitler was elected president by 98%.

Kitty Werthmann Interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vry0AdNTZz0#t=178

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Mar 1, 2014 17:34:49   #
Don DeHoff
 
Homestead wrote:
Yea, I've read history.
On January 30, 1933, the Jews were more interested in smelling the flowers than the guy Hindenburg appointed as chancellor of Germany.

As I recall, that didn't work out to well for them.

Get your head out of your ass, evil doesn't go away just because your to busy smoking dope to worry about it.


Sir, right or wrong, keep it civil. Even if you did have a valid comment , it was lost lost while you were down in the gutter. Solutions to serious issues, require serious and civil discourse. There are professional commenters "out there" whose sole purpose is to create off-subject, one-on-one gutter talk (mental masturbation) to take our focus off of the real issues at hand---and when you participate, you unwittingly "become one of them".

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Mar 1, 2014 17:53:42   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Homestead wrote:
I think your over simplifying a bit. The women below was a 7 year old Austrian when Hitler was elected president by 98%.

Kitty Werthmann Interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vry0AdNTZz0#t=178


I did not get a good connection on the video.

Not having seen much said on this site about the problems in Germany at that time I just wanted to put a few thoughts down.

Germany was in such bad shape after WW1 that things were right for a man like Hitler to take advantage of.

After WW2 the US lead in the effort to put Germany & Japan back on their feet. Not wanting to see more of the results like Germany after WW1.

I do feel that we are living at a time when conflicts like the World Wars will be a thing of the past.
There will be armed conflicts to be sure but not as wide spread as in the past.

I also believe that the first man that pushes the button for a nuclear weapon will be tried for a War Crime. Even in their own country.

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Mar 1, 2014 18:07:46   #
Don DeHoff
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
I did not get a good connection on the video.

Not having seen much said on this site about the problems in Germany at that time I just wanted to put a few thoughts down.

Germany was in such bad shape after WW1 that things were right for a man like Hitler to take advantage of.

After WW2 the US lead in the effort to put Germany & Japan back on their feet. Not wanting to see more of the results like Germany after WW1.

I do feel that we are living at a time when conflicts like the World Wars will be a thing of the past.
There will be armed conflicts to be sure but not as wide spread as in the past.

I also believe that the first man that pushes the button for a nuclear weapon will be tried for a War Crime. Even in their own country.
I did not get a good connection on the video. br ... (show quote)


Sir, you live in dream world. Already "they" have used poison gas and bombed civilians. There will be many "smaller conflicts" all under the indirect control of a NWO organization or the Muslims which will be tantamount to a world war---several are in progress as we speak. And, we have a couple of million (maybe many more) Muslims in this country, just waiting to respond to a "call to "Jihad"--wherein heads will be removed. Bottom line, without a "standing army now", we will be forced to use nuclear weapons or surrender.

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Mar 1, 2014 18:41:36   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
I agree with you. We Jews were smelling the flowers when the stink of evil was overwhelming. Like they say in Israel, " never again ".
Homestead wrote:
Yea, I've read history.
On January 30, 1933, the Jews were more interested in smelling the flowers than the guy Hindenburg appointed as chancellor of Germany.

As I recall, that didn't work out to well for them.

Get your head out of your ass, evil doesn't go away just because your to busy smoking dope to worry about it.

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Mar 1, 2014 18:45:53   #
Homestead
 
Don DeHoff wrote:
Sir, right or wrong, keep it civil. Even if you did have a valid comment , it was lost lost while you were down in the gutter. Solutions to serious issues, require serious and civil discourse. There are professional commenters "out there" whose sole purpose is to create off-subject, one-on-one gutter talk (mental masturbation) to take our focus off of the real issues at hand---and when you participate, you unwittingly "become one of them".



Years ago, I read a story written by one of the Nazi guards that was leading the Jews down into a valley where they were ordered to strip and then lined up in front of a mass grave, where they were then machine gunned down.

This was when Hitler was experimenting with how he was going to solve the Jewish problem. He stopped doing it that way, because, the bullets needed, cost to much and it took to long. Plus, some of the soldiers didn't like shooting the real pretty women. It was after that that Hitler asked for suggestions from his Nazi friends and they decided on the gas chambers.

I'm sure the conversations were very polite as they talked about the final solution.

The former Nazi said that there were only six guards there for the two hundred Jews. If at any time the Jews had made a run for it, there would have been no way they could have stopped them. But, men women and children, stayed obediently in line, did as they were told and were cut down.

The Nazi didn't say how polite they were, when they blew the brains out of the women and children.

Perhaps the Nazi's asked very politely, "ma’am do you mind if I splatter your child’s brains all over you or would you prefer that I shoot you dead first. Or do you think your children would like to see their father blown apart before they are.


I'm done with this politically correct garbage, enough is enough.
Rome is burning and people want me to listen to them fiddle.

People with cancer have had their policies cancelled, people who were beating their sickness, are now literally facing death because of it.


But, hey................ObamaCare was enacted into law, very politely.

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Mar 1, 2014 19:14:37   #
Guardian
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
This is true. You should see the Islamic videos shown to children in Palestine, and other Muslim countries. They are hateful, I would like to believe that not all Muslims believe this kind of terrible nonsense.l


WHAT DO YOU EXPECT FROM A CULTURE WHO WORSHIPS A WARRIOR, NOT A PEACE MAKER? Mohammed was a violent and merciless warrior with pedophile tendencies. He killed and raped women and children when he conquered a village besides cutting off the men's heads. He is the muslim equivalent to Christ in their religion, Allah being the Godhead. Only our Christ was a peaceful loving man; whereby, Mohammed was an angry, violent war loving man. So why would you think they would teach their children anything different but hatred and denial of the Western world?

The muslim culture is antiquated, abusive, and violent. It does not protect their women and children, but exposes them to whatever the male family members wish to do to them. These same women and children have equal value as a piece of furniture in the muslim home. They are born to serve the males, have no minds of their own, and to be subservient to every male family member. They are below second class servants.

Many women have been so brutalized into their roles that they would rather be beaten and disfigured than escape the torture they experience. And you wonder why our Military is in some of these countries? It's not all about terrorists, there are innocent victims experiencing abusive behaviors that need rescuing too from the people that should have showered them with love.

To be fair, not every Muslim is angry and violent, many are educated and believe there is another way to worship; however, the "old ways" die hard. Many women who have educated and progressive parents have been allowed to go to Universities and most become Doctors. These are few and far between. Most of the women/children are trapped in a nightmare situation, never escaping the fists of their male captive family members. The male NEVER is wrong and if a woman ever questions his demands, she can be beaten, disfigured, etc. There are no courts to rescue these females and their children...they are nameless victims.

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