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Eleven (11) things they did not and will not ever learn in school.
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Jun 10, 2018 09:48:24   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
Here is a fact...If not for Gates and Microsoft most of you would not be on a computer, with Windows any idiot can run a computer today. Before Windows was DOS, I used it for years, it's a command line OS
that means you must learn lots of keyboard command like DIR, MKD, FORMAT, COPY, CD, and hundreds more. if you want to give this a try go download Linux, its free and it's the same thing as DOS all command line inputs.
https://www.kali.org/downloads/ like I said it's free and it's very powerful. But it's not easy like Windows.
Try it and post back.

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Jun 10, 2018 11:25:55   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
cold iron wrote:
Here is a fact...If not for Gates and Microsoft most of you would not be on a computer, with Windows any idiot can run a computer today. Before Windows was DOS, I used it for years, it's a command line OS
that means you must learn lots of keyboard command like DIR, MKD, FORMAT, COPY, CD, and hundreds more. if you want to give this a try go download Linux, its free and it's the same thing as DOS all command line inputs.
https://www.kali.org/downloads/ like I said it's free and it's very powerful. But it's not easy like Windows.
Try it and post back.
Here is a fact...If not for Gates and Microsoft mo... (show quote)


I mean no disrespect for Bill Gates, other than his liberal leanings, and elitist agenda.

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Jun 10, 2018 15:15:09   #
Ricktloml
 
cold iron wrote:
Here is a fact...If not for Gates and Microsoft most of you would not be on a computer, with Windows any idiot can run a computer today. Before Windows was DOS, I used it for years, it's a command line OS
that means you must learn lots of keyboard command like DIR, MKD, FORMAT, COPY, CD, and hundreds more. if you want to give this a try go download Linux, its free and it's the same thing as DOS all command line inputs.
https://www.kali.org/downloads/ like I said it's free and it's very powerful. But it's not easy like Windows.
Try it and post back.
Here is a fact...If not for Gates and Microsoft mo... (show quote)


Right you are. I am in the PC vernacular, technologically challenged. Yet here I sit enjoying, (for the most part,) the use of this great technical advancement. I don't know who gets the lion's share of the credit, or blame, but what an achievement.

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Jun 10, 2018 22:17:07   #
rafterman Loc: South Florida
 
thinksense wrote:
I retired.

I'm sorry you misread what I wrote as reflecting a whining, jealous person with failures in his background.

Guys like Mr. Gates, are often given credit for things they did not do or say, and that is the case for this particular string where he's given credit for an 11 point comment that he never made.

Anyone who has followed his career knows that he not only did not follow those 11 points, but on a more important level would never agree with them. And I don't like to see people fooled by the advertising/public relations people that people like Bill have working for them.
I retired. br br I'm sorry you misread what I wr... (show quote)


Okay, maybe I overreacted about what I perceived as your attitude. I retired from the U.S. Navy in 1986 and I'm now fully retired. I've always had a dislike for people who whine and complain. As a supervisor and later on as a manager, I always said - If you have a problem, don't whine and complain about it. Bring me what YOU think is the solution so we can have an adult conversation about it, otherwise a change in attitude is in order.

Gates is not the originator of these. According to Snopes.com - This list is the work of Charles J. Sykes, author of the 1996 book Dumbing Down Our Kids: Why American Children Feel Good About Themselves But Can’t Read, Write, Or Add. (Sykes’ list was published in numerous newspapers, although it did not appear in his 1996 book. It did, however, form the meat of Sykes’ 2007 book, 50 Rules Kids Won’t Learn in School: Real-World Antidotes to Feel-Good Education.) https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/some-rules-kids-wont-learn-in-school/ Many versions omit the last three rules:


Rule No. 12: Smoking does not make you look cool. It makes you look moronic. Next time you’re out cruising, watch an 11-year-old with a butt in his mouth. That’s what you look like to anyone over 20. Ditto for “expressing yourself” with purple hair and/or pierced body parts.
Rule No. 13: You are not immortal. (See Rule No. 12.) If you are under the impression that living fast, dying young and leaving a beautiful corpse is romantic, you obviously haven’t seen one of your peers at room temperature lately.
Rule No. 14: Enjoy this while you can. Sure parents are a pain, school’s a bother, and life is depressing. But someday you’ll realize how wonderful it was to be a kid. Maybe you should start now. You’re welcome.

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Jun 11, 2018 01:32:57   #
thinksense
 
cold iron wrote:
Here is a fact...If not for Gates and Microsoft most of you would not be on a computer, with Windows any idiot can run a computer today. Before Windows was DOS, I used it for years, it's a command line OS
that means you must learn lots of keyboard command like DIR, MKD, FORMAT, COPY, CD, and hundreds more. if you want to give this a try go download Linux, its free and it's the same thing as DOS all command line inputs.
https://www.kali.org/downloads/ like I said it's free and it's very powerful. But it's not easy like Windows.
Try it and post back.
Here is a fact...If not for Gates and Microsoft mo... (show quote)


Do you really think that someone else wouldn't have popularized something similar to windows?

Whenever somthing is needed, someone will find a way to supply it. That is a rule of human nature, and I'll bet if you had thought a little more before writing the above you wouldn't have bothered writing it. I"ll bet that right now there are people working on the next breakthrough in computing which will make Windows obsolete. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't already developed a number of times and bought up to keep it off the market. What do you think?

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Jun 11, 2018 07:01:53   #
rafterman Loc: South Florida
 
Even if an entity invents the "next breakthrough", there are so many Windows users that would require a change in methodology, it would be a very steep up hill climb for people to change. He could be done. A good example of that today is the electric automobiles. It's going to take a long time to replace all the gas vehicles, so even though this is the "next breakthrough" in the auto industry, it will take a long time before all gas vehicles are considered obsolete - if ever.

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Jun 11, 2018 07:11:45   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
cold iron wrote:
Bill Gates recently gave a speech at a High School about eleven (11) things they did not and will not ever learn in school.

He talks about how the feel-good, unionized, politically correct teachings created 2 generations of kids with no concept of reality and how this concept sets them up to be failures in the real world.

This should be posted in every schoolroom and in your kid's bedroom.

Rule 1 : Life is not fair - get used to it!

Rule 2 : The world doesn't care about your self-esteem. The world will expect you to accomplish something BEFORE you feel good about yourself.

Rule 3 : You will NOT make $60,000 a year right out of high school. You won't be a vice-president with a car phone until you earn both.

Rule 4 : If you think your teacher is tough, wait till you get a boss.

Rule 5 : Flipping burgers is not beneath your dignity. Your Grandparents had a different word for burger flipping: They called it opportunity.

Rule 6 : If you mess up, it's not your parents' fault, so don't whine about your mistakes, learn from them.

Rule 7 : Before you were born, your parents weren't as boring as they are now. They got that way from paying your bills, cleaning your clothes and listening to you talk about how cool you think you are: So before you save the rain forest from parasites of your parent's generation, try delousing the closet in your own room.

Rule 8 : Your school may have done away with winners and losers, but life HAS NOT. In some schools, they have abolished failing grades and they'll give you as MANY TIMES as you want to get the right answer. *This doesn't bear the slightest resemblance to ANYTHING in real life.

Rule 9 : Life is not divided into semesters. You don't get summers off and very few employers are interested in helping you FIND YOURSELF. *Do that on your own time.

Rule 10 : Television is NOT real life. In real life people actually have to leave their i-phones and go to jobs.

Rule 11 : Be nice to nerds. Chances are you'll end up working for one.

If you can read this... Thank a Teacher
If you can read this in English... Thank a Soldier!
And for life and everything else you have... Thank God!!
Bill Gates recently gave a speech at a High School... (show quote)


Thank You!!

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Jun 11, 2018 08:13:53   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
lindajoy wrote:
Thank You!!


rafterman wrote:
These are great lessons to learn for all our young people. However, these profound statements do not originate from Bill Gates. They are actually excerpts from the book "Dumbing Down our Kids" by educator Charles Sykes. Snopes.com (even though you cannot believe everything from Snopes) says that it is misattributed. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/some-rules-kids-wont-learn-in-school/ . Also, there are many other sites that debunk this purely as something Gates said, among those sites is http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/2012-06-24/story/fact-check-rules-might-be-cool-theyre-not-bill-gates.


Thanks for posting this clarification, rafterman.
good rules, but did not make sence that they came from leftist Bill Gates

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Jun 11, 2018 09:45:04   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
thinksense wrote:
Do you really think that someone else wouldn't have popularized something similar to windows?

Whenever somthing is needed, someone will find a way to supply it. That is a rule of human nature, and I'll bet if you had thought a little more before writing the above you wouldn't have bothered writing it. I"ll bet that right now there are people working on the next breakthrough in computing which will make Windows obsolete. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't already developed a number of times and bought up to keep it off the market. What do you think?
Do you really think that someone else wouldn't hav... (show quote)


You can speculate all you want, your argument can be applied to everything. But never proved.

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Jun 11, 2018 11:35:51   #
thinksense
 
cold iron wrote:
You can speculate all you want, your argument can be applied to everything. But never proved.


Never proven?

What do you atribute human "progress" to?

We've come from using stones and sticks to get our lunch by hunting, to grocery store or the restaurant where we hand over bits of paperlike cloth for our lunch.

From sitting by the campfire in a cave, we have come to temparature controlled living spaces.

From walking ten miles a day to reach a distant goal, to flying at 450 miles per hour....etc., etc.

What is not proven?

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Jun 11, 2018 12:54:39   #
rafterman Loc: South Florida
 
thinksense wrote:
Do you really think that someone else wouldn't have popularized something similar to windows?

Whenever somthing is needed, someone will find a way to supply it. That is a rule of human nature, and I'll bet if you had thought a little more before writing the above you wouldn't have bothered writing it. I"ll bet that right now there are people working on the next breakthrough in computing which will make Windows obsolete. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't already developed a number of times and bought up to keep it off the market. What do you think?
Do you really think that someone else wouldn't hav... (show quote)


Take a look at these alternatives or "next breakthrough in computing" as you call them at http://www.thomasdishaw.com/privacy/

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Jun 11, 2018 13:34:31   #
thinksense
 
rafterman wrote:
Take a look at these alternatives or "next breakthrough in computing" as you call them at http://www.thomasdishaw.com/privacy/


Thank you Rafterman, I didn't know of these.

Btw, did you ever get your camera back??????

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Jun 11, 2018 13:44:28   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
thinksense wrote:
Never proven?

What do you atribute human "progress" to?

We've come from using stones and sticks to get our lunch by hunting, to grocery store or the restaurant where we hand over bits of paperlike cloth for our lunch.

From sitting by the campfire in a cave, we have come to temparature controlled living spaces.

From walking ten miles a day to reach a distant goal, to flying at 450 miles per hour....etc., etc.

What is not proven?



I speak of breakthroughs. Not turning up your Tstat or making a better door knob. Gates made a super easy OS, Linux made a super hard one to use. Who's winning here?

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Jun 11, 2018 15:18:30   #
thinksense
 
cold iron wrote:
I speak of breakthroughs. Not turning up your Tstat or making a better door knob. Gates made a super easy OS, Linux made a super hard one to use. Who's winning here?


Actually, making a better thermostat or doorknob is not only a breakthrough, but a good example of mankind advancing by developing needed things.

It is interesting that the inventors who invented, in most cases didn’t popularize (in many cases because of insufficient finances) and therefore benefit much financially from their invention. Someone else either stole or “bought”, advertised, sold and made money from that invention and, eventually was thought by the Hoy Poloi to have been the inventor. Which our children, to their detriment, were taught to revere and emulate.

Undeserved and unearned credit creating another clay footed hero. We have all too many of them in our history books.

This whole string started by giving unearned credit to an ordinary fellow who just happened to be born to the rightly connected wealthy family, and and thusly is able to sail through life with little effort. He got that credit because Clayy footed hero worshiping fools gave him credit for speaking some important truths that teenagers need to hear.

But he never said them. And doesn’t deserve being held up to the American Public as some kind of hero our kids should emulate. He isn’t a hero, or an inventor, he is just a person connected by the accident of birth with people who helped him become a successful entrepreneur.

I pointed that out. And that is all. Nothing more.

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Jun 12, 2018 11:19:15   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
thinksense wrote:
Actually, making a better thermostat or doorknob is not only a breakthrough, but a good example of mankind advancing by developing needed things.

It is interesting that the inventors who invented, in most cases didn’t popularize (in many cases because of insufficient finances) and therefore benefit much financially from their invention. Someone else either stole or “bought”, advertised, sold and made money from that invention and, eventually was thought by the Hoy Poloi to have been the inventor. Which our children, to their detriment, were taught to revere and emulate.

Undeserved and unearned credit creating another clay footed hero. We have all too many of them in our history books.

This whole string started by giving unearned credit to an ordinary fellow who just happened to be born to the rightly connected wealthy family, and and thusly is able to sail through life with little effort. He got that credit because Clayy footed hero worshiping fools gave him credit for speaking some important truths that teenagers need to hear.

But he never said them. And doesn’t deserve being held up to the American Public as some kind of hero our kids should emulate. He isn’t a hero, or an inventor, he is just a person connected by the accident of birth with people who helped him become a successful entrepreneur.

I pointed that out. And that is all. Nothing more.
Actually, making a better thermostat or doorknob i... (show quote)


Seems trying to explain to you is way over your pay grade.

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