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May 30, 2018 05:44:50   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
PeterS wrote:
Because there is no logical way to explain it. A fetus hasn't committed a sin yet your god kills hundreds of millions every year world wide. You want to tell us about sin inherent in all humanity--well that's a load of bullshit because you have no logical explanation. You aren't too busy--there is simply nothing you can say...


Actually, God does not kill these fetuses. Humans do. Perhaps it is God's will that humans demonstrate their inhumanity. Could be that there is more to it than either Christianity or Atheism.

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May 30, 2018 05:55:04   #
iFrank Loc: San Antonio
 
TexaCan wrote:
Why would anyone of us attempt to explain this to either one of you? You don’t want to know.......you just want to mock God and all of us who believe in Him! I suggest that you just play with each other! We’re busy!


Not busy enough to give you a thumbs up. 👍🏻

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May 30, 2018 05:58:33   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
I don't think any of us know the answer to that question but God himself. He sees the end from the beginning.
Why do the liberals love to abort the unborn babies, maybe you should ask that question.

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May 30, 2018 06:22:02   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Oh yes bring Obama into this question.


Bo supported abortions did he not?? Enabled many of them to be easily available ..A government that promotes abortions do so as a legal means of euthansia thereby weaning out the weak...Much like death sentences cast on many a murderer etc.. God didn’t chose that either yet we passed laws allowing it..

But to answer you, God did not allow children to have bad DNA... The choices made of free will brought up or brings about consequences of the choices..He said, do not kill, yet many do..He said do not eat of the fruit,lest you perish.. yet, through our choice to eat it we decided our fate.. Adam did not knowingly eat of the fruit, he was decieved?? Yet he knew where the fruit came from, did he not??? No??? Educated of the tree of knowledge was he not?? Yet he ate of it because Eve told him it was alright??

You have to look past the parables...

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May 30, 2018 06:27:06   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Trooper745 wrote:
Sorry, ... you're not intelligent enough to understand the truthful answer. As Col. Nathan R. Jessep (Jack Nicholson) said in A Few Good Men, "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!". It is far above and beyond your shallow mind.


He played that role very well!! Excellent movie it was too...

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May 30, 2018 06:32:09   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Loki wrote:
If this belief is egocentric, why the fuss about "God giving us free will?" Seriously. Is not secular humanism itself evidence of God's gift of free will?


Yes....

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May 30, 2018 06:38:27   #
out of the woods Loc: to hell and gone New York State
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Why does your God give us sick and dying babies or children with cancer?
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Sin and death entered the world through mans rebellion. God gave us freewill, but with that comes the conequences of our choices. God is not the author of death and loss, we are.

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May 30, 2018 06:39:38   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
lindajoy wrote:
Bo supported abortions did he not?? Enabled many of them to be easily available ..A government that promotes abortions do so as a legal means of euthansia thereby weaning out the weak...Much like death sentences cast on many a murderer etc.. God didn’t chose that either yet we passed laws allowing it..

But to answer you, God did not allow children to have bad DNA... The choices made of free will brought up or brings about consequences of the choices..He said, do not kill, yet many do..He said do not eat of the fruit,lest you perish.. yet, through our choice to eat it we decided our fate.. Adam did not knowingly eat of the fruit, he was decieved?? Yet he knew where the fruit came from, did he not??? No??? Educated of the tree of knowledge was he not?? Yet he ate of it because Eve told him it was alright??

You have to look past the parables...
Bo supported abortions did he not?? Enabled many o... (show quote)


Wrong again LJ and you are deflecting again from the topic.

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May 30, 2018 07:18:27   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
Bad Bob wrote:
"God has blinded your eyes and hardened your heart " That is your loving God?




You rejected the gift of Salvation that he gave to all who choose it! What do you expect him to do? Beg?
Everything seems to be a game with you....... it’s not with him! Reject him-mock him..... your choice! You pay the ultimate price! Except his free gift and you receive the ultimate reward! It’s not complicated!

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May 30, 2018 07:20:56   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Wrong again LJ and you are deflecting again from the topic.


How is what I said deflecting???

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May 30, 2018 07:21:50   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
iFrank wrote:
Not busy enough to give you a thumbs up. 👍🏻


Hi there! Hope all is well with you and yours!

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May 30, 2018 07:28:07   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
TexaCan wrote:
You rejected the gift of Salvation that he gave to all who choose it! What do you expect him to do? Beg?
Everything seems to be a game with you....... it’s not with him! Reject him-mock him..... your choice! You pay the ultimate price! Except his free gift and you receive the ultimate reward! It’s not complicated!


Would I get 21 virgins with your Salvation in paradise too?

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May 30, 2018 07:52:39   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
TexaCan wrote:
You rejected the gift of Salvation that he gave to all who choose it! What do you expect him to do? Beg?
Everything seems to be a game with you....... it’s not with him! Reject him-mock him..... your choice! You pay the ultimate price! Except his free gift and you receive the ultimate reward! It’s not complicated!


Do you ever wonder what their doing always talking about a God they don’t believe in anyway?? I wonder why the choice to simply say God doesn’t exist is then filled with a constant need to continue the search anyway??

Good Morning to you... Headed to a river ride along the Lamanai Mayan Ruins and then to see the ruins of Xunantunich... Actually reverse the order here.. lolol.. hoping to also walk back into some of the woods there to a water fall they say bathed the Mayans with evidence of Hieroglyphics depicting some stories... Now we’re getting somewhere... lolol

Suppose to be heavy rains /thunderstorms later this evening but its moving in day.. We’ll see what we get in..

Egads last nights’ dinner included the “ traditional rice and beans (kidney beans) and potatoe salad served with it!! Holy crumb too much starch for me... Delicious it was but I’d weigh a ton if I ate it everyday like they say is a main staple here...Had fish, blackened with some kind of sauce over it yummmmyyyyyyy!! Loll

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May 30, 2018 07:53:04   #
TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Why does your God give us sick and dying babies or children with cancer?


Because in a billion, trillion years from now, when we look back on this *relatively* few seconds of pain and suffering, we’ll still remember what disobeying God can do and its ugly fruit; that yes, our sins don't only affect us, but our offspring as well, and our families and friends and even more.

The fool says in his heart, there is no God.

I’ve got news for you: the ones that die early, who never sinned, will be raised from the dead, and in that billion years to come will remember the atrocity of the sin that snuffed them out. The guiltless will not be judged with the guilty. That is a lie that actually comes from pagan ideas, sometimes imposed on the Bible, but it does not come from the God of the Bible, who said:

“The soul who sins, he shall die: the son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son; the righteousness of the righteous shall be on him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be on him.” (Ezek. 18:20).

So no, the doctrine of "original sin" is not spelled out in the Bible. Jesus said to allow the little children to come to him for of such are the kingdom of God. He was also asked who sinned the child or his parents that he should be born handicapped. Jesus said neither. But that the glory of God could be made known. Some think that's because he healed him. But what about those who didn't get healed? They show the glory of God in the fact that God is true. He told our parents that if they sinned they would bring death upon us. And that is what happened. But death won't "be a thing" forever. Through the son of God, who lived righteous before God, he was able to reverse the curse of sin to those who believe in and obey him. As Peter said, "repent, and be baptized everyone of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit, for the gift is unto you, and your children and as many as God shall call even them that are afar off" Acts 2:38-39. Peter also said that God has given to all men the assurance of eternal life in that he rose Jesus from the dead.

The thing is, God has set a “boundary” for the length of the manifestation of the evil of man’s iniquity. When that boundary is reached, and it is done, evil will be all over. At the same time, he has also given us “space to repent”.

The ones who wake up to this; who see the evil in the world and don’t try to “blame God” but rather realize that they themselves have done evil on their own choice, and then want with all their heart to make things right, these ones will find God, or rather, He will find them. He really found us even when we say we found him because we found that it was He who was calling on our heart’s when we woke up to the evil around us, and called out, “dear God, have mercy on me, a sinner!”

What plan does "your" god, or your religion, or lack thereof have for conquering evil and death? If you don't have a plan that is working, then it is you who are the one satisfied with evil not going away. From all I've witnessed in my 61 years on this earth, the further one gets from God the more evil they become. So why is it you want to draw away from God and blame Him for the evil of mankind? Sounds to me like that would make you part of the problem you are complaining about rather than part of the solution!

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May 30, 2018 07:55:39   #
Liberty Tree
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Why does your God give us sick and dying babies or children with cancer?


Is there any answer that would satisfy you? I think not. The real issue is not that you do not believe in God but that you do not want there to be a God because you do not wish to accept the fact that you are not the supreme being of the universe. You, and others like you, therefore try to establish scenarios that justify your self established unbelief. You ask questions knowing in advance that you will reject any answer relating to the truth of the existence of God.

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