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May 27, 2018 03:22:59   #
tbutkovich
 
Our government says it is very difficult to fire a federal government employee even if he has blatantly failed in his duties and responsibilities or betrayed the trust of the American people. His retirement pay is often based on a percentage of his high three year salary while in office and his length of service.

There is a solution. If it’s too difficult to fire the public self servant, demote him to the lowest possible grade in the Federal government. Peter Stroczk should not have been reassigned and given the right to retain his current pay grade, rather he should be demoted from his GS-16 grade where he continues to knock down a hefty $150,000.00 paycheck to a GS-2 where the pay more suits his value to the American public. Give him a job in the kitchen doing “pots and pans” or have him serve as a “janitors aide” while serving out the term of his service. We have to find better ways to punish those who choose to sign up as members of the “deep state” if we are going to “discourage bad behavior.” Time to revamp the federal employment system which has very light or no punishment for federal employees who betray the trust of the American people. Best way to discourage bad behavior is to “fire the rogue employee.”

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May 27, 2018 07:42:00   #
rick1958
 
I wholeheartedly agree. Even that is too good for the likes of Stroczk - in the good old days he would have been fired and prosecuted with appropriate prison time.

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May 27, 2018 08:02:38   #
Gatsby
 
President Trump is working on improving this situation. The incomptetent and corrupt are considering seeking court protection.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-trump-executive-orders-public-unions-20180525-story.html

tbutkovich wrote:
Our government says it is very difficult to fire a federal government employee even if he has blatantly failed in his duties and responsibilities or betrayed the trust of the American people. His retirement pay is often based on a percentage of his high three year salary while in office and his length of service.

There is a solution. If it’s too difficult to fire the public self servant, demote him to the lowest possible grade in the Federal government. Peter Stroczk should not have been reassigned and given the right to retain his current pay grade, rather he should be demoted from his GS-16 grade where he continues to knock down a hefty $150,000.00 paycheck to a GS-2 where the pay more suits his value to the American public. Give him a job in the kitchen doing “pots and pans” or have him serve as a “janitors aide” while serving out the term of his service. We have to find better ways to punish those who choose to sign up as members of the “deep state” if we are going to “discourage bad behavior.” Time to revamp the federal employment system which has very light or no punishment for federal employees who betray the trust of the American people. Best way to discourage bad behavior is to “fire the rogue employee.”
Our government says it is very difficult to fire a... (show quote)

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May 27, 2018 08:26:03   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
tbutkovich wrote:
Our government says it is very difficult to fire a federal government employee even if he has blatantly failed in his duties and responsibilities or betrayed the trust of the American people. His retirement pay is often based on a percentage of his high three year salary while in office and his length of service.

There is a solution. If it’s too difficult to fire the public self servant, demote him to the lowest possible grade in the Federal government. Peter Stroczk should not have been reassigned and given the right to retain his current pay grade, rather he should be demoted from his GS-16 grade where he continues to knock down a hefty $150,000.00 paycheck to a GS-2 where the pay more suits his value to the American public. Give him a job in the kitchen doing “pots and pans” or have him serve as a “janitors aide” while serving out the term of his service. We have to find better ways to punish those who choose to sign up as members of the “deep state” if we are going to “discourage bad behavior.” Time to revamp the federal employment system which has very light or no punishment for federal employees who betray the trust of the American people. Best way to discourage bad behavior is to “fire the rogue employee.”
Our government says it is very difficult to fire a... (show quote)




God bless help and preserve America and all she stands for.

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May 27, 2018 09:12:31   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
tbutkovich wrote:
Our government says it is very difficult to fire a federal government employee even if he has blatantly failed in his duties and responsibilities or betrayed the trust of the American people. His retirement pay is often based on a percentage of his high three year salary while in office and his length of service.

There is a solution. If it’s too difficult to fire the public self servant, demote him to the lowest possible grade in the Federal government. Peter Stroczk should not have been reassigned and given the right to retain his current pay grade, rather he should be demoted from his GS-16 grade where he continues to knock down a hefty $150,000.00 paycheck to a GS-2 where the pay more suits his value to the American public. Give him a job in the kitchen doing “pots and pans” or have him serve as a “janitors aide” while serving out the term of his service. We have to find better ways to punish those who choose to sign up as members of the “deep state” if we are going to “discourage bad behavior.” Time to revamp the federal employment system which has very light or no punishment for federal employees who betray the trust of the American people. Best way to discourage bad behavior is to “fire the rogue employee.”
Our government says it is very difficult to fire a... (show quote)


tbutkovich: Our lessons and memories tend to be short-lived!

These problems have been with us sense our conception! The government that has developed since F.D.R. and his New Deal is Government by the bureaucracy and for the bureaucracy. We the little people have become nothing more than serfs to the State. —Douglas Vogt

Clinton perfected it. Look how many stupid people actually believe he ended up with a surplus to this day. persona non grata/ Hippocrates We must remind Scotusis that justice James Wilson said the first and governing Maxim in the interpretation of a statute is to discover the meaning of those who made it. Our present justices seem to have forgotten that one small detail. Truth has no agenda!

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May 28, 2018 09:08:45   #
boatbob2
 
We REALLY,dont have to fire them,Just don't pay them,chalk up the no pay,to a computer SNAFU,

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May 28, 2018 10:39:09   #
RRRoger
 
rick1958 wrote:
I wholeheartedly agree. Even that is too good for the likes of Stroczk - in the good old days he would have been fired and prosecuted with appropriate prison time.

So
Let's make America Great Again!

Time to Pimary out the RINOs
and vote out the Democrats

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May 28, 2018 10:52:28   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
ldsuttonjr wrote:
tbutkovich: Our lessons and memories tend to be short-lived!

These problems have been with us sense our conception! The government that has developed since F.D.R. and his New Deal is Government by the bureaucracy and for the bureaucracy. We the little people have become nothing more than serfs to the State. —Douglas Vogt

Clinton perfected it. Look how many stupid people actually believe he ended up with a surplus to this day. persona non grata/ Hippocrates We must remind Scotusis that justice James Wilson said the first and governing Maxim in the interpretation of a statute is to discover the meaning of those who made it. Our present justices seem to have forgotten that one small detail. Truth has no agenda!
tbutkovich: Our lessons and memories tend to be s... (show quote)


Too much "Dead Wood!"

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May 28, 2018 12:13:56   #
Mom8052 Loc: Lost in the mountains of New Mexico
 
boatbob2 wrote:
We REALLY,dont have to fire them,Just don't pay them,chalk up the no pay,to a computer SNAFU,


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Really, let an outside HR review their records and fire accordingly. There is no reason why those Civil Servants that are not preforming to the regulations and stands of the Government should keep their jobs or retirements if they are spreading ill-will and negative remarks about the leadership of our country. Their jobs are to support the President (no matter what party) and our Nation.

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May 28, 2018 12:17:48   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
tbutkovich wrote:
Our government says it is very difficult to fire a federal government employee even if he has blatantly failed in his duties and responsibilities or betrayed the trust of the American people. His retirement pay is often based on a percentage of his high three year salary while in office and his length of service.

There is a solution. If it’s too difficult to fire the public self servant, demote him to the lowest possible grade in the Federal government. Peter Stroczk should not have been reassigned and given the right to retain his current pay grade, rather he should be demoted from his GS-16 grade where he continues to knock down a hefty $150,000.00 paycheck to a GS-2 where the pay more suits his value to the American public. Give him a job in the kitchen doing “pots and pans” or have him serve as a “janitors aide” while serving out the term of his service. We have to find better ways to punish those who choose to sign up as members of the “deep state” if we are going to “discourage bad behavior.” Time to revamp the federal employment system which has very light or no punishment for federal employees who betray the trust of the American people. Best way to discourage bad behavior is to “fire the rogue employee.”
Our government says it is very difficult to fire a... (show quote)


Ohhhhhhhhhh yessss!! I like it!!
But I still say can them and let he or she sue the government!! Ha, that’ll go over great!! They’d have to prove they are innocent and they won’t do that at all~~

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May 28, 2018 12:21:12   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Mom8052 wrote:
~~~~~~~~~
Really, let an outside HR review their records and fire accordingly. There is no reason why those Civil Servants that are not preforming to the regulations and stands of the Government should keep their jobs or retirements if they are spreading ill-will and negative remarks about the leadership of our country. Their jobs are to support the President (no matter what party) and our Nation.
~~~~~~~~~ br Really, let an outside HR review thei... (show quote)


You got that right!!! Nice to see you, Mom. 🌺

I say suspended without pay too when there is reason to fire the person!

If its a criminal act then pension is suspended too!! If they understand no pension to fall back on just maybe the deterrent aspect will mean something..??? Doubtful, but maybe???

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May 28, 2018 17:30:17   #
Ricktloml
 
lindajoy wrote:
You got that right!!! Nice to see you, Mom. 🌺

I say suspended without pay too when there is reason to fire the person!

If its a criminal act then pension is suspended too!! If they understand no pension to fall back on just maybe the deterrent aspect will mean something..??? Doubtful, but maybe???


It is sickening that Lois Lerner is collecting her pension. And now she doesn't want the transcripts of her activities in the public eye, "they would be a danger to her family"

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May 28, 2018 23:55:23   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Ricktloml wrote:
It is sickening that Lois Lerner is collecting her pension. And now she doesn't want the transcripts of her activities in the public eye, "they would be a danger to her family"


Helll, she was a danger!! Transcripts should be right on out there!!! She chose her course!!

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May 29, 2018 04:29:34   #
king hall Loc: Tucson,AZ.
 
tbutkovich wrote:
Our government says it is very difficult to fire a federal government employee even if he has blatantly failed in his duties and responsibilities or betrayed the trust of the American people. His retirement pay is often based on a percentage of his high three year salary while in office and his length of service.

There is a solution. If it’s too difficult to fire the public self servant, demote him to the lowest possible grade in the Federal government. Peter Stroczk should not have been reassigned and given the right to retain his current pay grade, rather he should be demoted from his GS-16 grade where he continues to knock down a hefty $150,000.00 paycheck to a GS-2 where the pay more suits his value to the American public. Give him a job in the kitchen doing “pots and pans” or have him serve as a “janitors aide” while serving out the term of his service. We have to find better ways to punish those who choose to sign up as members of the “deep state” if we are going to “discourage bad behavior.” Time to revamp the federal employment system which has very light or no punishment for federal employees who betray the trust of the American people. Best way to discourage bad behavior is to “fire the rogue employee.”
Our government says it is very difficult to fire a... (show quote)


That's a common-sense solution that deserves to have some legs. I think I'll air this and see if I can't get some interest started in a potion to Congress. Thanks

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May 29, 2018 04:49:22   #
king hall Loc: Tucson,AZ.
 
Excuse my error; should have read a partition (potion ?)

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