roy

Which party just changed the cpi so that people will get even less raise.Remember trump promised he would not touch ss.But i guess as trump will say he didnt do it,but it was his tax plan where this was added on.So with inflation sky rocketing,when it comes time for ss raise and you see very little who you going to blame?

roy

Well when people who need it get on ss they dont care if its a ponzie scam or not.Its there for them for now.

maryjane

Are you saying it is NOT true that Congress has, more than once, taken money from the SS fund , used it for other purposes, and never replaced it?? Is my statement true or not??

debeda

Yes I actually found out it's been changed to 35 years today at my brother's birthday party. 35 years is new ( within the last 5 years) used to be 10.

debeda

Immigrants actually do get social security money in a round about way because they get welfare. Which is paid by the social security fund

itsmyjob

I just hate everyone equally it's easier that way. I'm not Republican or democrat I'll remain independent.

Drpete

That's so true they, both parties, have borrowed, taken, never paid back, re apportioned, invested, reduced, SS.
not to mention the obvious national debt.. etc.etc. ...
I'm not saying it's an easy fix but with all these investigations, Everytime I turn around, something or someone is being investigated. To the tune of millions. Some or dare I say most come up with something minor or nothing at all. Hence the voter fraud commission. Anyone remember that? Absolutely minor things with no huge 3-5 million illegal votes that we're or should have been relatively easy to find if true. It was disbanded, with for some reason, nothing to report. Millions wasted. 7-14 million wasted on a military parade... Not to mention the golf.. Trump criticised Obama for playing golf a total of 38 times in 8 years. It's been just over a year and the average tally for Trump's golf outings is in the mid 50s. The reason for the ambiguity is that on more than one occasion he was spotted golfing (with pictures), even though the official daily schedule didn't mention it.. costing millions to tax payers..each outing.. travel and security alone. The swamp has been spending tax payers money like water. Pruitt's travel and security??.. 11 separate investigations there. Carson's office table custom made for $35,000. I could spend all day (punn intended). Unfortunately. Please add you're own government spending waste to this thread. And both parties are responsible so please don't make it one sided as mine seems to be. I was just mentioning the most recent abuses. Oh and even when they find out something. Does anything really happen. When you look into it you will see what I mean. Please fact check... thanks

debeda

Very true. One fake news, sorta, is Carson's expensive table. Yes, it was ordered, but NOT by Dr Carson, and it was also returned. Another current abuse is the Obama family jet setting all over (still) on our dime. Most expresidents lay low for awhile in their own homes. No this one, or his family. Sorry, they lost me fiscally when Michelle went to Spain with her retinue for her birthday at a cost of millions to the taxpayers when we were in a deep recession.....and then let's talk about government pensions for Congress and others. Wrong, lavish and unsustainable!!

Morgan

Considering the Republicans have complete control, I would have to say they are to blame. Trump said he wanted full transparency as things are, he's going to get it. Trump's "word" means nothing to me, why should it, the only thing he has proven is what a liar he is.

Morgan

Where did you get that from? SS is a separate fund from general federal spending.

debeda

You're sadly mistaken Morgan. Look it up. I bet you'll be as incensed as I was a few years back when I found this out.

Morgan

Well that's what I did and found this by SS office

Debunking Some Internet Myths- Part 2

(See also, MYTHS AND MISINFORMATION ABOUT SOCIAL SECURITY- Part 1)

http://www.ssa.gov/history/InternetMyths2.html

There has never been any change in the way the Social Security program is financed or the way that Social Security payroll taxes are used by the federal government. The Social Security Trust Fund was created in 1939 as part of the Amendments enacted in that year. From its inception, the Trust Fund has always worked the same way. The Social Security Trust Fund has never been "put into the general fund of the government."

Most likely this question comes from a confusion between the financing of the Social Security program and the way the Social Security Trust Fund is treated in federal budget accounting. Starting in 1969 (due to action by the Johnson Administration in 1968) the transactions to the Trust Fund were included in what is known as the "unified budget." This means that every function of the federal government is included in a single budget. This is sometimes described by saying that the Social Security Trust Funds are "on-budget." This budget treatment of the Social Security Trust Fund continued until 1990 when the Trust Funds were again taken "off-budget." This means only that they are shown as a separate account in the federal budget. But whether the Trust Funds are "on-budget" or "off-budget" is primarily a question of accounting practices--it has no effect on the actual operations of the Trust Fund itself.

debeda

Thanks for this info. I got mine also from a reliable source, without the "historical data" disclaimer. I'll have to research further and get back to this when I'm not exhausted and burned to a crisp. It was a GOOD memorial day in the pool with the grandchildren