Okay, okay, it's from California so many of you figure you don't even have to read. But you figure it is not overreach but probably insane. Maybe. I have some serious reservations about it, yet perhaps the local community needs to get intimately involved in providing greater gun safety. Or it could be a little like1984. A biref summary is below.
Lawmakers in the California Assembly voted Monday to advance a bill that would authorize employers, co-workers and school personnel to request the temporary confiscation of guns from individuals determined to pose a danger to themselves or others.
The legislation, AB 2888, would build on California’s existing “red flag” law, passed in 2014 following a deadly shooting spree in Isla Vista. The 22-year-old gunman in that case had reportedly exhibited a number of warning signs before killing six people, and then himself, in the rampage.
The current red flag law gives family members, roommates and law enforcement officers the power to petition the court to remove firearms from individuals who have displayed dangerous behavior. Judges then hold a hearing to determine whether to order the gun owner to surrender their firearms and stay away from all guns, typically for a year, although the restraining orders can be extended beyond that based on additional evidence.
The new bill would expand the list of people who can file for such restraining orders to include a subject’s employer and co-workers and the staff of a high school or college that the person has attended in the last six months.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/california-moves-let-schools-co-222437335.html
rumitoid wrote:
Okay, okay, it's from California so many of you figure you don't even have to read. But you figure it is not overreach but probably insane. Maybe. I have some serious reservations about it, yet perhaps the local community needs to get intimately involved in providing greater gun safety. Or it could be a little like1984. A biref summary is below.
Lawmakers in the California Assembly voted Monday to advance a bill that would authorize employers, co-workers and school personnel to request the temporary confiscation of guns from individuals determined to pose a danger to themselves or others.
The legislation, AB 2888, would build on California’s existing “red flag” law, passed in 2014 following a deadly shooting spree in Isla Vista. The 22-year-old gunman in that case had reportedly exhibited a number of warning signs before killing six people, and then himself, in the rampage.
The current red flag law gives family members, roommates and law enforcement officers the power to petition the court to remove firearms from individuals who have displayed dangerous behavior. Judges then hold a hearing to determine whether to order the gun owner to surrender their firearms and stay away from all guns, typically for a year, although the restraining orders can be extended beyond that based on additional evidence.
The new bill would expand the list of people who can file for such restraining orders to include a subject’s employer and co-workers and the staff of a high school or college that the person has attended in the last six months.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/california-moves-let-schools-co-222437335.htmlOkay, okay, it's from California so many of you fi... (
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Thats great, if it works since in the last school shooting in Texas killer didnt show dangerous behavior...He was an A student, football player, in Greek dance club....So how would you know who is dangerous to other people????
proud republican wrote:
Thats great, if it works since in the last school shooting in Texas killer didnt show dangerous behavior...He was an A student, football player, in Greek dance club....So how would you know who is dangerous to other people????
But by the Calif Bill this would be reported: Martin explained that Kelley had recently sent threatening text messages to his mother-in-law, who regularly attends services at the church. She wasn’t present during the shooting, but her mother, Lula White, was among those murdered.
This wouldn’t be the first time that Kelley was violent toward his family. He was found guilty of assault in 2012 after hitting his ex-wife and child “with a force likely to produce death or grievous bodily harm,” according to a general court-martial order. He served a one-year sentence, and got a bad-conduct discharge from the U.S. Air Force in 2014.
I worry a disgruntled worker or employer or lover ,ex wife could use this just to harm someone
Pass all the new laws and legislation you want and you still won't be able to fix stupid.
proud republican wrote:
Thats great, if it works since in the last school shooting in Texas killer didnt show dangerous behavior...He was an A student, football player, in Greek dance club....So how would you know who is dangerous to other people????
The law that holds parents responsible for securing their guns from underage kids interferes with that person...
And when did this kid become such a shining paragon? Everything I've seen portrayed him as a weird trench coat wearing recluse.
Lonewolf wrote:
I worry a disgruntled worker or employer or lover ,ex wife could use this just to harm someone
Safeties do have to be put in place, such as serious consequences for false allegations. The warning sign that has the most weight is combinations of aberrant behavior threats to people including social media.
Several of the mass murders have been preceded by credible warnings that our system is not geared to act upon. In several cases the police or FBI had been looking at people because they had had threats reported, but the system falls short of being able to violate the "rights" of an unhinged person. When just a few unhinged people have the ability to go off and kill so many people we do have a right to intervene and confiscate guns. They can always get them back if a mistake was made. Lives can't be replaced when the threats were real.
Does anyone get the feeling that if the elites decreed that everyone must have their thumbs amputated, Americans would agree that the law makes sense and must be obeyed?
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