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May 21, 2018 23:54:41   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
rumitoid wrote:
That was my whole point, PR, thank you: TexaCan wanted to make it a mental health issue, you disproved that, agreeing with me. Can you begin to envision what our nation would be like implementing TexaCan reforms? Or yours? That is a police state of nightmarish proportions. Instead of sane and common sense gun-control? Our neighbors have done it.


There s been some that had mental problems! I did not say all! I said multiple layers!

I googled for the number of guns in America. I got all the way from 215 million to 357 million. In one report it was reported that America has 50% of the individually owned guns in the world with only 5% of the world's population! That's a whole lot of guns! Right! If you totally dissolve the NRA and another new gun is ever sold, how will any kind of gun control short of gun confiscation stop a kid from stealing a gun from a loved one or from a stranger and walking in a school and shooting his classmates? You have got to stop the gun from getting into the school, first and foremost! Then we have to figure out how to attack the reason that the troubled teen felt compelled to take the life of others! What is different from today from when we were young? Guns were in unlocked pickups in my time. No one ever thought about killing someone, maybe a good old fashioned fist fight!

Yes Rumi, I'm screaming! My concern is for our children, I'm not obsessed with the NRA or other people owning guns!
You cannot change the fact that there are millions of guns here, they are not going away , at least not in our lifetime!
If you really care, then do something that will actually stop the killing!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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May 22, 2018 00:46:58   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
Alicia wrote:
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Has anyone thought of holding the parents responsible for insufficient storage of their guns. I wonder if they leave poisons around for tots to lay their hands upon. In my youth parents were held responsible for the actions of their children.


That young man was seventeen! In a matter of months he could join the military and go to war!

In my day there was a loaded rifle in a rack in the pickup at all times! Our Saturday night date was having a contest of shooting Jack rabbits out of a jeep using the headlights with a 22 rifle! We knew first hand what happened when you shot something. Times change and we have to change with them. I raised my son and my granddaughter the same way that I was raised, they learned how to shoot and hunt at an early age!

Things are very different now and we have to make some effective changes. We have to stop the guns from getting into the schools and change the mindset of wanting to kill and to learn to cope with problems and disappointments.

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May 22, 2018 01:02:05   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
Ricktloml wrote:
In reality gun control already exists at schools. They are all gun free zones. The left in this country is using the deaths of children to advance their agenda of disarming law-abiding citizens, subverting the Constitution and undermining our system of governance. The so called power of the NRA is the power of millions of American citizens exercising their Constitutional rights, which is EXACTLY what the NRA advocates for, and EXACTLY what the left works against.


In the small school where our grandkids went to school there are armed teachers in every building! My step-daughter works in the school office. My husband and I are life-time members of the NRA and the membership keeps growing!!!

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May 22, 2018 01:19:15   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
bobebgtime wrote:
The NRA is probably the far-left's most beloved boogeyman. Any time there is a tragedy involving a firearm, you liberals from the top down are quick to blame the NRA and even insinuate that the organization is gleeful that people have died, like you. If you’re so concerned about the kids where are your tears for the 60,069,971 babies destroyed since 1973 due to Roe v. Wade.

All that matters to me is #1 we live in a violent country, and #2 guns are the ONLY way to totally protect you and your family. The rest is just intellectual bull shit
The NRA is probably the far-left's most beloved bo... (show quote)


Blame the NRA, blame the conservatives, blame the gun dealers, blame the gun owners.
How about we look at the law enforcement that is derelict in their duty to serve and protect.
Rather sit on their ass and write tickets than do any protecting.
MSN only report something to spin in favor of gun control.
Never a report on teens driving, texting and dying.
And never about abortion.

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May 22, 2018 01:42:15   #
EmilyD
 
TexaCan wrote:
There s been some that had mental problems! I did not say all! I said multiple layers!

I googled for the number of guns in America. I got all the way from 215 million to 357 million. In one report it was reported that America has 50% of the individually owned guns in the world with only 5% of the world's population! That's a whole lot of guns! Right! If you totally dissolve the NRA and another new gun is ever sold, how will any kind of gun control short of gun confiscation stop a kid from stealing a gun from a loved one or from a stranger and walking in a school and shooting his classmates? You have got to stop the gun from getting into the school, first and foremost! Then we have to figure out how to attack the reason that the troubled teen felt compelled to take the life of others! What is different from today from when we were young? Guns were in unlocked pickups in my time. No one ever thought about killing someone, maybe a good old fashioned fist fight!

Yes Rumi, I'm screaming! My concern is for our children, I'm not obsessed with the NRA or other people owning guns!
You cannot change the fact that there are millions of guns here, they are not going away , at least not in our lifetime!
If you really care, then do something that will actually stop the killing!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There s been some that had mental problems! I did... (show quote)


You have got to stop the gun from getting into the school, first and foremost!

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And how do you propose that gun not getting into the school? I'm all ears.

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May 22, 2018 07:43:56   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
TexaCan wrote:
That young man was seventeen! In a matter of months he could join the military and go to war!

In my day there was a loaded rifle in a rack in the pickup at all times! Our Saturday night date was having a contest of shooting Jack rabbits out of a jeep using the headlights with a 22 rifle! We knew first hand what happened when you shot something. Times change and we have to change with them. I raised my son and my granddaughter the same way that I was raised, they learned how to shoot and hunt at an early age!

Things are very different now and we have to make some effective changes. We have to stop the guns from getting into the schools and change the mindset of wanting to kill and to learn to cope with problems and disappointments.
That young man was seventeen! In a matter of mont... (show quote)

My weapons stay at home and only go WITH me. It's not the weapons fault it is the stupid simple minded idiots that take the weapons to the schoo and kill inoccent children.

The swamp dwelling Demon-Rat Soloist traitors are using this to complete their agenda to disarm true American patriots so they can install Socialist rule in our beloved America.


God bless America and the President

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May 22, 2018 09:44:08   #
Kazudy
 
zillaorange wrote:
The left will include ALL semi-autos as "assault weapons" !


You mean my .38 special revolver is not an assault weapon? Some would disagree.

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May 22, 2018 10:07:47   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
EmilyD wrote:
You have got to stop the gun from getting into the school, first and foremost!

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And how do you propose that gun not getting into the school? I'm all ears.


Hello Emily! Glad to see another female on this forum! There aren’t that many of us. I think keeping the gun out of the school is the most logical place to start. This problem must be attacked in several areas with multiple layers IMO.
It is going to take some serious possibly radical actions, actions that I would not have ever considered necessary until now. I’m not an expect in this area, don’t even claim to be. I’ve read and listened to many ideas on how to attack this problem by men that I respect and are knowledgeable in this area. Metal detectors, limited ways in and out of school, dress code that would limit clothing such as trench coats, ways for the kids that could report a possible troubled teen in confidence, armed personnel in every building, and for heavens sake!!!!!!!!!!!..........figure out where all this anger is coming from ! I admit that I’m old and the mindset of many of our young is beyond my understanding! Two of our grandsons are teachers and they see a difference in just the small amount of time that they have been out of school. I know only one thing for certain.................gun control won’t solve this problem with the estimated 215 to 357 million guns owned by individuals in America! ( I googled this info yesterday) These guns aren’t going to suddenly disappear. The liberals don’t seem to understand this little fact!

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May 22, 2018 10:17:55   #
son of witless
 
EmilyD wrote:
You have got to stop the gun from getting into the school, first and foremost!

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And how do you propose that gun not getting into the school? I'm all ears.


Obviously you must stop the concealment. A pistol is not that hard to conceal, but this last shooter got a shotgun into the school.

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May 22, 2018 10:24:08   #
Alicia Loc: NYC
 
Hogback wrote:
Remind me once more, just how is the NRA involved in any gun crime anywhere? They don't actually legislate any gun laws nor do they manufacture any weapon of any kind nor do they sell any weapons of any kind. So how are they the fault of any gun crime? It seems like the condition of society as a whole is more to blame then the NRA. If big money gun bills have an impact then the politicians are to blame. "Works against Christ" speaking of working Christ just which verse are you referring to? I never surprizes me when liberals talk Bible they never mention abortion. The safest most secure place in the world should be a mothers womb but in reality, it is the most insecure and violent place! Does that living "thing" in the womb have a heart beat? Is "it" alive? Is there ever any chance that when born it will be anything other than human?
Remind me once more, just how is the NRA involved ... (show quote)

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But the NRA does have quite a large influence in DC to protect its gun-selling businesses by buying congress people.

The difference is that Republicans state that they believe in life in the womb but do nothing to help the fetus after birth. Better not to be born than to live a life of poverty and bias under conditions where the family cannot support this extra expense. Only the mother should be able to make judgment on this. It is the post birth conditions that the mother takes into consideration and Righties do not. It is they who are pulling back on moneys spent on education and social network agencies. Their philosophy is "Save the fetus but to hell with the person."

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May 22, 2018 10:27:23   #
son of witless
 
Alicia wrote:
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But the NRA does have quite a large influence in DC to protect its gun-selling businesses by buying congress people.

The difference is that Republicans state that they believe in life in the womb but do nothing to help the fetus after birth. Better not to be born than to live a life of poverty and bias under conditions where the family cannot support this extra expense. Only the mother should be able to make judgment on this. It is the post birth conditions that the mother takes into consideration and Righties do not. It is they who are pulling back on moneys spent on education and social network agencies. Their philosophy is "Save the fetus but to hell with the person."
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Okay. Then why isn't a mother allowed to kill her newborn ?

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May 22, 2018 10:29:11   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Alicia wrote:
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But the NRA does have quite a large influence in DC to protect its gun-selling businesses by buying congress people.

The difference is that Republicans state that they believe in life in the womb but do nothing to help the fetus after birth. Better not to be born than to live a life of poverty and bias under conditions where the family cannot support this extra expense. Only the mother should be able to make judgment on this. It is the post birth conditions that the mother takes into consideration and Righties do not. It is they who are pulling back on moneys spent on education and social network agencies. Their philosophy is "Save the fetus but to hell with the person."
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So if a family 'falls' on extremely hard times..they should kill all the children so the kids won't have to endure a poor existence.. WOW..

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May 22, 2018 10:32:17   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
old marine wrote:
My weapons stay at home and only go WITH me. It's not the weapons fault it is the stupid simple minded idiots that take the weapons to the schoo and kill inoccent children.

The swamp dwelling Demon-Rat Soloist traitors are using this to complete their agenda to disarm true American patriots so they can install Socialist rule in our beloved America.


God bless America and the President


I agree that there is an ultimate agenda to disarm Americans! It’s getting more evident day by day or I should say incident by incident by them refusing to actually attack these problems with a little common sense! I don’t think they understand the proverbial sleeping giant of former military and , I might add, their wives! It’s not going to happen any time soon IMHO!!!!!!! That’s not to exclude any and all others that defend our constitutional rights! Especially those feisty fellow conservative ladies of OPP!!!

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May 22, 2018 10:32:33   #
bdamage Loc: My Bunker
 
rumitoid wrote:
What other conclusion can you come to? Not only do nothing but actively resist with big money any gun-control bills. "Screw our kids and grandkids; we got our guns." A small (literally) price to pay for the the freedom to kill (O'Reilly) at random. So far down the rabbit hole of logic no one but the insane gun enthusiasts understand. This is evil incarnate. The NRA works against Christ.


Yeah rumi, you seem to have many issues with mental stability.

Mark Dallas prevented a school shooting with a gun and he shot the perp....no one was killed.
This is why this went unreported.
Because you and your ilk could not exploit the incident.

School shooter stopped by armed school resource officer!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B9Jeeer8mU

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May 22, 2018 10:40:01   #
boofhead
 
Alicia wrote:
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But the NRA does have quite a large influence in DC to protect its gun-selling businesses by buying congress people.

The difference is that Republicans state that they believe in life in the womb but do nothing to help the fetus after birth. Better not to be born than to live a life of poverty and bias under conditions where the family cannot support this extra expense. Only the mother should be able to make judgment on this. It is the post birth conditions that the mother takes into consideration and Righties do not. It is they who are pulling back on moneys spent on education and social network agencies. Their philosophy is "Save the fetus but to hell with the person."
*********************** br But the NRA does have q... (show quote)


I have heard this said but where is the proof? Who pays the taxes that support these kids after they go home with their single Mom? Because the Libs have done their evil best to destroy families so that Moms find it hard to manage? Look at the facts and you will see that the Conservatives pay the most taxes because they make the most money due to their work ethic and desire to do the right thing by their families, that they take responsibility for and do not ask for welfare to do so. They don't spend their days doing drugs and ripping off the system like Liberals so which group is actually supporting the single Moms and their kids? Not the Liberals that is for sure. And why are the Moms single? Because their deadbeat men will not step up and do what a real man would do. And are those deadbeat men conservative? Hell no.

The money poured in to support the single Moms and the kids is a source of graft and corruption; little of that money goes where it should it is skimmed off by, look closely, the Liberals! The masters of scam and theft.

Sure there are some bad conservatives who also get on the Government teat but the majority of the scum are Liberals and they are the ones you should scorn.

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