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May 20, 2018 19:03:10   #
Dr. Evil Loc: In Your Face
 
moldyoldy wrote:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/12/08/nra-hijacked-bipartisan-common-sense-gun-bill-john-feinblatt-column/930862001/


NRA hijacks first bipartisan gun bill in years. Now it's too dangerous to pass.
John Feinblatt, Opinion contributor Published 8:52 a.m. ET Dec. 8, 2017 | Updated 9:14 a.m. ET Dec. 8, 2017


'Fix NICS' would strengthen our gun laws. 'Concealed Carry Reciprocity' would gut them. We'll all be less safe if the gun lobby gets its way.


Jill Lawrence is a douchebag left wing gun grabber with little to no firearm experience, but she does have a big mouth and plenty of sheep to preach to.

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May 20, 2018 19:27:10   #
boatbob2
 
I'm all for " fix NICS",Im also for conceled carry reciprocity,IF,A person,passes a complete background check,AND,goes thru an APPROVED class on guns, with a minimun of 20 hours (including range time) of classroom instruction,completion,of these 2 requirements,would get you an ID card,with your photo on it, AND,a serious fine,or jail time,IF,they are carrying without the BG check,and class time. Like we have mostly all have been saying,the gun doesn't kill anyone,Its the person,pulling the trigger,that does the killing.

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May 20, 2018 19:40:03   #
Dr. Evil Loc: In Your Face
 
boatbob2 wrote:
I'm all for " fix NICS",Im also for conceled carry reciprocity,IF,A person,passes a complete background check,AND,goes thru an APPROVED class on guns, with a minimun of 20 hours (including range time) of classroom instruction,completion,of these 2 requirements,would get you an ID card,with your photo on it, AND,a serious fine,or jail time,IF,they are carrying without the BG check,and class time. Like we have mostly all have been saying,the gun doesn't kill anyone,Its the person,pulling the trigger,that does the killing.
I'm all for " fix NICS",Im also for conc... (show quote)


According to the lefties, it ok to let lunatics run around, just not with guns. Problem is, how do you tell the difference between a leftie and a lunatic😨

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May 20, 2018 19:46:59   #
ghostgotcha Loc: The Florida swamps
 
boatbob2 wrote:
BUT,IF,the guns have trigger locks,AND,are locked in a gun safe,We have done a bunch more,for kids safety,than just putting them into a closet,or under your pillow.US,as parents,have to show,that we've done almost all,that we can do,so that the kids have NO ACCESS to our guns.


Really Bob? Your lack of reasoning passes over the need to have a weapon readily available in your home to begin with. In case your limited imagination cannot fathom the need then read just two examples below.

Example #1:
An Illinois State Penitentiary parolee who couldn't kick the crime habit paid with his life when he and 2 other men broke into the Sleepy Hollow, Ill., home of Dr. Roland Russell. As the gunmen were occupied tying Russell's wife and son to a bed, the doctor edged back to a table where he kept a loaded revolver. He fired 4 times, mortally wounding the parolee. The dying man's companions fled.

Example #2:
A homeowner in St. Cloud, Fla., was at home with his family and a friend when he heard a suspicious noise. The homeowner retrieved a gun, went to investigate, and came upon someone trying to break into the house. The homeowner responded by ordering the intruder to leave. When the home invader did not comply, the homeowner shot the criminal during a struggle. The home invader, who an investigation revealed had a significant criminal history, later died at a hospital.

Want more? There are hundreds more every week - Especially in liberal states where criminals run amuck.

I am sure there are many others on here that keep self-defense weapons loaded and handy while standing prepared to defend their family and their property.

You (and all the other liberals) should learn from this.


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May 20, 2018 19:49:56   #
moldyoldy
 
Dr. Evil wrote:
According to the lefties, it ok to let lunatics run around, just not with guns. Problem is, how do you tell the difference between a leftie and a lunatic😨



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May 20, 2018 19:53:31   #
Dr. Evil Loc: In Your Face
 
ghostgotcha wrote:
Really Bob? Your lack of reasoning passes over the need to have a weapon readily available in your home to begin with. In case your limited imagination cannot fathom the need then read just two examples below.

Example #1:
An Illinois State Penitentiary parolee who couldn't kick the crime habit paid with his life when he and 2 other men broke into the Sleepy Hollow, Ill., home of Dr. Roland Russell. As the gunmen were occupied tying Russell's wife and son to a bed, the doctor edged back to a table where he kept a loaded revolver. He fired 4 times, mortally wounding the parolee. The dying man's companions fled.

Example #2:
A homeowner in St. Cloud, Fla., was at home with his family and a friend when he heard a suspicious noise. The homeowner retrieved a gun, went to investigate, and came upon someone trying to break into the house. The homeowner responded by ordering the intruder to leave. When the home invader did not comply, the homeowner shot the criminal during a struggle. The home invader, who an investigation revealed had a significant criminal history, later died at a hospital.

Want more? There are hundreds more every week - Especially in liberal states where criminals run amuck.

I am sure there are many others on here that keep self-defense weapons loaded and handy while standing prepared to defend their family and their property.

You (and all the other liberals) should learn from this.

Really Bob? Your lack of reasoning passes over t... (show quote)


👍If multiple intruders show up at my digs, they'll need multiple meat wagons to leave in. "Take no prisoners"

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May 20, 2018 19:57:16   #
Dr. Evil Loc: In Your Face
 
You're really stretching it there.

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May 20, 2018 20:00:15   #
boatbob2
 
lack of imagination,MY ASS,Ive been in 3 shootouts,as a deputy sheriff,Im still here,I am a Vietnam COMBAT VETalso,I have my rifles and shotguns in the gun safe,I have 4 pistols,all available in probably 10 seconds or less,my wife is trained to shoot each pistol (and long guns)and knows when to shoot,and when not to shoot.,I have no kids at home,When someone visits,I put the guns away,If a perp comes,and breaks into my house,AFTER,he enters,he will be met with deadly force, I will call the police,AFTER,I call the coroner to remove this body from INSIDE my house.

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May 20, 2018 20:58:20   #
Dr. Evil Loc: In Your Face
 
boatbob2 wrote:
lack of imagination,MY ASS,Ive been in 3 shootouts,as a deputy sheriff,Im still here,I am a Vietnam COMBAT VETalso,I have my rifles and shotguns in the gun safe,I have 4 pistols,all available in probably 10 seconds or less,my wife is trained to shoot each pistol (and long guns)and knows when to shoot,and when not to shoot.,I have no kids at home,When someone visits,I put the guns away,If a perp comes,and breaks into my house,AFTER,he enters,he will be met with deadly force, I will call the police,AFTER,I call the coroner to remove this body from INSIDE my house.
lack of imagination,MY ASS,Ive been in 3 shootouts... (show quote)

I like your style, no disrepect, but as they, when seconds count, the cops are only minutes away.

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May 20, 2018 21:23:14   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
boatbob2 wrote:
Have you all,noticed,that 95% of mass shootings occur,NOT,by the gun owner,But,by their children? my solution is kinda simple,REQUIRE,that ALL guns,have a trigger lock,AND,have to be stored in a gun safe.AND,the kids have NO ACCESS to guns,or keys to trigger locks and safes,without parential permission,Have the police make spot checks,for compliance.If not complied with,take guns UNTIL trigger locks and a safe is bought, have parents,BE PARENTS,if your children are being bullied in school,take steps to find out WHY. IF,you cant resolve the bullying problem,either,change schools for them,or,home school them. look at what your children,are doing on the computer,get passwords from children,if the kids say "no way" remove the computer and I phone. Youre the parents,,,BE PARENTS.We HAVE to stop the easy access,of kids to OUR GUNS. Guns locked up,do not kill people,EASY access to our guns,is what gets people killed.
Have you all,noticed,that 95% of mass shootings oc... (show quote)



Foolish neglectful parents should be held accountable...but whoever does the killing should be taken out as soon as possible..even if they're trying to surrender..let the kids get a certain amount of closure...One door in and out during school hours.. hardened..would be easier to accomplish..in my opinion..

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May 20, 2018 21:27:55   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
ghostgotcha wrote:
Really Bob? Your lack of reasoning passes over the need to have a weapon readily available in your home to begin with. In case your limited imagination cannot fathom the need then read just two examples below.

Example #1:
An Illinois State Penitentiary parolee who couldn't kick the crime habit paid with his life when he and 2 other men broke into the Sleepy Hollow, Ill., home of Dr. Roland Russell. As the gunmen were occupied tying Russell's wife and son to a bed, the doctor edged back to a table where he kept a loaded revolver. He fired 4 times, mortally wounding the parolee. The dying man's companions fled.

Example #2:
A homeowner in St. Cloud, Fla., was at home with his family and a friend when he heard a suspicious noise. The homeowner retrieved a gun, went to investigate, and came upon someone trying to break into the house. The homeowner responded by ordering the intruder to leave. When the home invader did not comply, the homeowner shot the criminal during a struggle. The home invader, who an investigation revealed had a significant criminal history, later died at a hospital.

Want more? There are hundreds more every week - Especially in liberal states where criminals run amuck.

I am sure there are many others on here that keep self-defense weapons loaded and handy while standing prepared to defend their family and their property.

You (and all the other liberals) should learn from this.

Really Bob? Your lack of reasoning passes over t... (show quote)


There is a saying, there are people with guns and there's people with loaded guns..the latter is much more safer..

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May 20, 2018 22:01:32   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
boatbob2 wrote:
lack of imagination,MY ASS,Ive been in 3 shootouts,as a deputy sheriff,Im still here,I am a Vietnam COMBAT VETalso,I have my rifles and shotguns in the gun safe,I have 4 pistols,all available in probably 10 seconds or less,my wife is trained to shoot each pistol (and long guns)and knows when to shoot,and when not to shoot.,I have no kids at home,When someone visits,I piut the guns away,If a perp comes,and breaks into my house,AFTER,he enters,he will be met with deadly force, I will call the police,AFTER,I call the coroner to remove this body from INSIDE my house.
lack of imagination,MY ASS,Ive been in 3 shootouts... (show quote)

Kill them all and let God sort then out.

Semper Fi brother

God bless you, America and the President

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May 20, 2018 22:14:28   #
youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart
 
boatbob2 wrote:
Adults make mistakes too,When I was in Vietnam,I had a .45 cal Thompson sub machine gun (that's what I called it) I let my buddy use it,on the Thompson,you pull the bolt back,when you fire it,the bolt comes forward,strips a round off a magazine,fires the round,goes back,then comes forward getting another round,and firing again,my buddy pulled the trigger,with a magazine in it,and fired only missing me by inches,I never let him use that gun again,I didn't like it much,I like the m16,much better. Archie,I have been involved in a bunch of life threatening scenarios,not bragging,but I'm still alive.
Adults make mistakes too,When I was in Vietnam,I h... (show quote)


Please, please, please learn how to use punctuation. Your post are choped to pieces.
Thanks

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May 20, 2018 23:02:55   #
ghostgotcha Loc: The Florida swamps
 

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May 21, 2018 04:29:33   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
boatbob2 wrote:
BUT,IF,the guns have trigger locks,AND,are locked in a gun safe,We have done a bunch more,for kids safety,than just putting them into a closet,or under your pillow.US,as parents,have to show,that we've done almost all,that we can do,so that the kids have NO ACCESS to our guns.


Let's say that you have your guns locked up securely so that your insane kid doesn't get hold of them, and then an armed intruder breaks into your house.
The headlines would read...FAMILY IN A HOUSE FULL OF LOCKED UP GUNS KILLED BY ARMED INTRUDER. MORE PROOF THAT GUN OWNERSHIP DOES NOT SAVE LIVES.....

My guns are not locked up because you can't use them when locked away. Like Florida, I can't imagine that somebody, somewhere didn't see what was about to happen and report it. Kids won't do it because they don't want to be a snitch. I don't know the facts on the parents, but I think they probably had no idea (but they SHOULD have).

The NRA promotes gun safety in every way. Saying that they want child deaths are words from the mouth of a bitter fool.

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