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Fluoride: Poison On Tap
May 16, 2018 09:09:04   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Fluoride: Poison On Tap – Full Documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqstwfKGzPI&t=141s

Is fluoride bad for you? Should you be concerned about sodium fluoride being in your water or toothpaste? Learn why Sweden, Norway, Austria, Finland, China and more countries have banned fluoride. How did fluoride get approved for use in the United States and what are the health effects? Learn everything you need to know about fluoride.

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May 16, 2018 09:11:40   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Fluoride: Poison On Tap – Full Documentary
http://republicbroadcasting.org/news/fluoride-poison-on-tap-full-documentary/


Is fluoride bad for you? Should you be concerned about sodium fluoride being in your water or toothpaste? Learn why Sweden, Norway, Austria, Finland, China and more countries have banned fluoride. How did fluoride get approved for use in the United States and what are the health effects? Learn everything you need to know about fluoride.


I think fluoride may be a good thing - it may bind with the heavy metals, pharmaceuticals and pesticides in the water supply, causing them to settle out - and clog your pipes.

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May 16, 2018 11:11:49   #
mactheknife
 
lpnmajor wrote:
I think fluoride may be a good thing - it may bind with the heavy metals, pharmaceuticals and pesticides in the water supply, causing them to settle out - and clog your pipes.


This long-standing debate displays the abysmal state of knowledge within the "ban the fluoride" crowd of basic chemistry. The atom fluorine (F) comes in two common forms; fluoride (F^-) and fluorine gas (F2), in addition to fluorine-containing compounds (e.g. CF4). F2 is a strong oxidizing agent (because it readily accepts electrons, F2 + 2e^- --> 2F^- from another atom that is oxidized, e.g., Cu --> Cu^2+ + 2e^-) and for that reason it is harmful because it degrades tissue. But F2 is not in toothpaste. What is in toothpaste is F^-, which is chemically physiologically harmless in the concentrations that exist in toothpaste, but is proven to inhibit the formation of cavities in teeth. This is not "rocket science" but is high school chemistry. Get educated and smart, folks!

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May 16, 2018 11:19:29   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
mactheknife wrote:
This long-standing debate displays the abysmal state of knowledge within the "ban the fluoride" crowd of basic chemistry. The atom fluorine (F) comes in two common forms; fluoride (F^-) and fluorine gas (F2), in addition to fluorine-containing compounds (e.g. CF4). F2 is a strong oxidizing agent (readily accepts electrons, F2 + 2e^- --> 2F^-) and for that reason it is harmful because it degrades tissue. But F2 is not in toothpaste. What is in toothpaste is F^-, which is chemically harmless in the concentrations that exist but is proven to inhibit the formation of cavities in teeth. This is not "rocket science" but is high school chemistry. Get educated and smart, folks!
This long-standing debate displays the abysmal sta... (show quote)


So; The government should be allowed to force chemicals (good or bad) on citizens that do not want what used to be rat poison in their water. Hazardous waste, that our city government pays for, to add to our water.
Europe bans it in most of their cities.

Fluoridation of H2O...no, no
http://www.naturalnews.com/050195_water_fluoridation_Austin_city_officials.html

Fluoride is still a poison

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/030952_CDC_fluoride.html#ixzz3DVeo3zsc

Fluoridation is a bad medical practice
1) Fluoride is the only chemical added to water for the purpose of medical treatment. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) classifies fluoride as a drug when used to prevent or mitigate disease (FDA 2000). As a matter of basic logic, adding fluoride to water for the sole purpose of preventing tooth decay (a non-waterborne disease) is a form of medical treatment. All other water treatment chemicals are added to improve the water’s quality or safety, which fluoride does not do.
2) Fluoridation is unethical. Informed consent is standard practice for all medication, and one of the key reasons why most of Western Europe has ruled against fluoridation. With water fluoridation we are allowing governments to do to whole communities (forcing people to take a medicine irrespective of their consent) what individual doctors cannot do to individual patients.

Christopher Bryson’s widely acclaimed book The Fluoride Deception includes dozens of peer-reviewed studies showing that sodium fluoride is a deadly neurotoxin that attacks the central nervous system and leads to a multitude of serious health problems. This fact has been covered up by a collusion of government and industry who have reaped financial windfalls while illegally mass medicating the public against their will.
Perhaps the most notable study was conducted by Dr. Phyllis Mullenix Ph.D., a highly respected pharmacologist and toxicologist, who in a 1995 Forsyth Research Institute study found that rats who had fluoride added to their diet exhibited abnormal behavioral traits.
Is this the best way to get rid of industrial toxic waste; other than financial considerations?

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May 16, 2018 11:40:24   #
mactheknife
 
eagleye13 wrote:
So; The government should be allowed to force chemicals (good or bad) on citizens that do not want what used to be rat poison in their water. Hazardous waste, that our city government pays for, to add to our water.
Europe bans it in most of their cities.

Fluoridation of H2O...no, no
http://www.naturalnews.com/050195_water_fluoridation_Austin_city_officials.html

Fluoride is still a poison

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/030952_CDC_fluoride.html#ixzz3DVeo3zsc

Fluoridation is a bad medical practice
1) Fluoride is the only chemical added to water for the purpose of medical treatment. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) classifies fluoride as a drug when used to prevent or mitigate disease (FDA 2000). As a matter of basic logic, adding fluoride to water for the sole purpose of preventing tooth decay (a non-waterborne disease) is a form of medical treatment. All other water treatment chemicals are added to improve the water’s quality or safety, which fluoride does not do.
2) Fluoridation is unethical. Informed consent is standard practice for all medication, and one of the key reasons why most of Western Europe has ruled against fluoridation. With water fluoridation we are allowing governments to do to whole communities (forcing people to take a medicine irrespective of their consent) what individual doctors cannot do to individual patients.

Christopher Bryson’s widely acclaimed book The Fluoride Deception includes dozens of peer-reviewed studies showing that sodium fluoride is a deadly neurotoxin that attacks the central nervous system and leads to a multitude of serious health problems. This fact has been covered up by a collusion of government and industry who have reaped financial windfalls while illegally mass medicating the public against their will.
Perhaps the most notable study was conducted by Dr. Phyllis Mullenix Ph.D., a highly respected pharmacologist and toxicologist, who in a 1995 Forsyth Research Institute study found that rats who had fluoride added to their diet exhibited abnormal behavioral traits.
Is this the best way to get rid of industrial toxic waste; other than financial considerations?
So; The government should be allowed to force chem... (show quote)


I agree with you that individuals should be informed and given a chance to refuse or consent, but that is a different issue. Thus, at the concentrations of fluoride present in toothpaste, it is not a neurotoxin; to have that type of effect the concentration would have to be increased by orders of magnitude. Studies on rats are most commonly carried out at concentrations that are much higher than what a person would be exposed to from toothpaste because they are accelerated tests that are designed to yield a (positive) result in laboratory time. The addition of fluoride to water to prevent tooth decay is little different in philosophy than the chlorination of water to kill harmful bacteria or the pasteurization of milk. You should look up how many lives those procedures have saved. All that I am saying, as a chemist, is that the chemical basis of the ban-fluoride activity is nonsense.

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May 16, 2018 12:48:25   #
Kevyn
 
eagleye13 wrote:
So; The government should be allowed to force chemicals (good or bad) on citizens that do not want what used to be rat poison in their water. Hazardous waste, that our city government pays for, to add to our water.
Europe bans it in most of their cities.

Fluoridation of H2O...no, no
http://www.naturalnews.com/050195_water_fluoridation_Austin_city_officials.html

Fluoride is still a poison

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/030952_CDC_fluoride.html#ixzz3DVeo3zsc

Fluoridation is a bad medical practice
1) Fluoride is the only chemical added to water for the purpose of medical treatment. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) classifies fluoride as a drug when used to prevent or mitigate disease (FDA 2000). As a matter of basic logic, adding fluoride to water for the sole purpose of preventing tooth decay (a non-waterborne disease) is a form of medical treatment. All other water treatment chemicals are added to improve the water’s quality or safety, which fluoride does not do.
2) Fluoridation is unethical. Informed consent is standard practice for all medication, and one of the key reasons why most of Western Europe has ruled against fluoridation. With water fluoridation we are allowing governments to do to whole communities (forcing people to take a medicine irrespective of their consent) what individual doctors cannot do to individual patients.

Christopher Bryson’s widely acclaimed book The Fluoride Deception includes dozens of peer-reviewed studies showing that sodium fluoride is a deadly neurotoxin that attacks the central nervous system and leads to a multitude of serious health problems. This fact has been covered up by a collusion of government and industry who have reaped financial windfalls while illegally mass medicating the public against their will.
Perhaps the most notable study was conducted by Dr. Phyllis Mullenix Ph.D., a highly respected pharmacologist and toxicologist, who in a 1995 Forsyth Research Institute study found that rats who had fluoride added to their diet exhibited abnormal behavioral traits.
Is this the best way to get rid of industrial toxic waste; other than financial considerations?
So; The government should be allowed to force chem... (show quote)

Just switch from water to vodka, that way those horrible folks at the waterworks won’t poison you.

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May 16, 2018 13:23:17   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
mactheknife wrote:
I agree with you that individuals should be informed and given a chance to refuse or consent, but that is a different issue. Thus, at the concentrations of fluoride present in toothpaste, it is not a neurotoxin; to have that type of effect the concentration would have to be increased by orders of magnitude. Studies on rats are most commonly carried out at concentrations that are much higher than what a person would be exposed to from toothpaste because they are accelerated tests that are designed to yield a (positive) result in laboratory time. The addition of fluoride to water to prevent tooth decay is little different in philosophy than the chlorination of water to kill harmful bacteria or the pasteurization of milk. You should look up how many lives those procedures have saved. All that I am saying, as a chemist, is that the chemical basis of the ban-fluoride activity is nonsense.
I agree with you that individuals should be inform... (show quote)


"All that I am saying, as a chemist, is that the chemical basis of the ban-fluoride activity is nonsense."
So the government is worried about your teeth?
Ever wonder why the dozens of tooth pastes offered in the market are ALL fluoridated.
If there is one offered (usually not), it has a higher price.

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May 16, 2018 14:25:52   #
mactheknife
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"All that I am saying, as a chemist, is that the chemical basis of the ban-fluoride activity is nonsense."
So the government is worried about your teeth?
Ever wonder why the dozens of tooth pastes offered in the market are ALL fluoridated.
If there is one offered (usually not), it has a higher price.


No, you should be worried about your teeth!

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May 17, 2018 09:20:19   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
mactheknife wrote:
No, you should be worried about your teeth!


I will never be silent on the government forcing medication in my water. Good or Bad!!!!

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May 17, 2018 09:34:59   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
eagleye13 wrote:
I will never be silent on the government forcing medication in my water. Good or Bad!!!!


I agree with you too and I’m sure you are aware of how our water supply is laced with any number of different chemicals and pesticides and drugs and poisons etc...

Unless we go to a Nation wide reverse Osmosis cleaning we are never going to be rid of the terrible things in water... I haven’t used tap water for sometime and some argue your better off with tap water because your throwing money away as spring water, for instance includes anything that streams into it as well.. I buy reverse Osmosis filter water to drink and cook with.. If nothing else it sure lets the flavor of your food actually taste like it’s supposed to. Coffee and tea especially..

Colorado water is crystal clear and not loaded with a bunch of Chlorine but I still use my reverse osmosis water..

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May 17, 2018 09:42:34   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
lindajoy wrote:
I agree with you too and I’m sure you are aware of how our water supply is laced with any number of different chemicals and pesticides and drugs and poisons etc...

Unless we go to a Nation wide reverse Osmosis cleaning we are never going to be rid of the terrible things in water... I haven’t used tap water for sometime and some argue your better off with tap water because your throwing money away as spring water, for instance includes anything that streams into it as well.. I buy reverse Osmosis filter water to drink and cook with.. If nothing else it sure lets the flavor of your food actually taste like it’s supposed to. Coffee and tea especially..

Colorado water is crystal clear and not loaded with a bunch of Chlorine but I still use my reverse osmosis water..
I agree with you too and I’m sure you are aware of... (show quote)


We have descent water here in Daytona, but I had to but a filter to take out the fluoride, forced on us.

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May 17, 2018 18:59:24   #
maryjane
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Fluoride: Poison On Tap – Full Documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqstwfKGzPI&t=141s

Is fluoride bad for you? Should you be concerned about sodium fluoride being in your water or toothpaste? Learn why Sweden, Norway, Austria, Finland, China and more countries have banned fluoride. How did fluoride get approved for use in the United States and what are the health effects? Learn everything you need to know about fluoride.


How long have those countries been without floride use? What is the stste of their people's teeth?

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May 17, 2018 21:20:26   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
maryjane wrote:
How long have those countries been without floride use? What is the stste of their people's teeth?


Research it.
does it matter?
Should all citizens in the US be forced to consume chemicals for supposed benefits?
I hope you don't use water decontamination/Chlorine as a back up for drugging Americans in their water supply.

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