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May 14, 2018 08:16:36   #
Morgan
 
JFlorio wrote:
If it was easily obtainable that he was profiting personally from being president and had violated the law you goofy Dems would be on him like a chicken on a junebug. Obama sure profited personally from being president. Bet you were down with that.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2017/01/20/how-barack-obama-has-made-20-million-since-arriving-in-washington/#7b11c6fe5bf0


Obama didn't profit from US tax dollars, big difference. The thing is, "allowing" a President to profit from our tax dollars is up to the discretion of Congress and if the majority rule of Congress is the same as the presidents, they will kowtow to the desires of the president rather then doing the right thing and not allow this conflict of interest but we already know where our majority Congress lies, not high on the ethical bar rather they are aligned with someone such as low bar Trump.

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May 14, 2018 08:19:06   #
Morgan
 
JFlorio wrote:
Better put some more padding in your ass. Trump keeps kicking it every day. Who in the world will you guys pull out of your clown car in 2020?


OMG YOU can't seriously be talking about our clown car,



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May 14, 2018 08:30:11   #
Morgan
 
ghostgotcha wrote:
Can we assume you intended to spell "Dimwit" - instead of Dimmit?

If so; then your calling Obama "Dimwit Obama" was appropriate. If not; then you need to turn off you computer so we will not know just how ignorant you and all the other dimwits who voted for him, really are.


Pathetic.


How pathetic you are for a typo! Really grasping at your little straws, I could have a full-time job on Opp correcting errors, including you. For example, it should be..."

...then you're calling Obama...and not your calling Obama, do you know the difference?

second..." then you need to turn off your computer" and NOT "you computer"...hmmm you're just so smart aren't cha

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May 14, 2018 08:47:39   #
Big Kahuna
 
Morgan wrote:
OMG YOU can't seriously be talking about our clown car,
OMG YOU can't seriously be talking about our clown... (show quote)


You really mean the "brown car" (mulatto car) that sexually challenged ovommit rode for 8 years that he thought gave him the right to change and interpret the Constitution as he saw fit with the corrupt leftist media enabling him to commit his nefarious acts.

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May 14, 2018 09:27:21   #
Morgan
 
drlarrygino wrote:
You really mean the "brown car" (mulatto car) that sexually challenged ovommit rode for 8 years that he thought gave him the right to change and interpret the Constitution as he saw fit with the corrupt leftist media enabling him to commit his nefarious acts.


The "brown car" really, not too much of a... dare I say..."racist". Sexually challenged, versus the closet dwellers of the right. Please tell me what did he change in the constitution, which by the way he never spoke of, but you guys always seem to misinterpret due to where your perspective comes from. If anyone supported the equal rights of our constitution it was President Obama. Equal for ALL, not just some, unlike the reich, whoops sorry, right.

So tell me, exactly what did he change in our constitution?

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May 14, 2018 09:29:30   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
jimpack123 wrote:
If Clinton was doing this Fox news would be screaming bloody murder



And if either Clinton had done it, the Democrats would be celebrating their international vision & taking a cut of it.

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May 14, 2018 09:36:25   #
Big Kahuna
 
Morgan wrote:
The "brown car" really, not too much of a... dare I say..."racist". Sexually challenged, versus the closet dwellers of the right. Please tell me what did he change in the constitution, which by the way he never spoke of, but you guys always seem to misinterpret due to where your perspective comes from. If anyone supported the equal rights of our constitution it was President Obama. Equal for ALL, not just some, unlike the reich, whoops sorry, right.

So tell me, exactly what did he change in our constitution?
The "brown car" really, not too much of ... (show quote)


The bigger question is, what in our constitution did he not want to change??? Remember he said he wanted to fundamentally CHANGE-------. You name it, he wanted to change it!!! If you want to call me a racist you are both a racist, a bigot and a leftist totalitarian bully!

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May 14, 2018 09:38:07   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Actually he didn't. Just pretty much violated it. Which people like you didn't care about because you either agreed with him or as per your usual , take party over country.

http://thefederalist.com/2017/01/19/10-ways-obama-violated-constitution-presidency/



Morgan wrote:
The "brown car" really, not too much of a... dare I say..."racist". Sexually challenged, versus the closet dwellers of the right. Please tell me what did he change in the constitution, which by the way he never spoke of, but you guys always seem to misinterpret due to where your perspective comes from. If anyone supported the equal rights of our constitution it was President Obama. Equal for ALL, not just some, unlike the reich, whoops sorry, right.

So tell me, exactly what did he change in our constitution?
The "brown car" really, not too much of ... (show quote)

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May 14, 2018 09:40:18   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
How did our President profit? He no longer has ties to these? According to the documents, the president resigned as a director for Trump International Golf Club Scotland, which owns the course and boutique hotel that Trump opened north of Aberdeen in 2012.

He also resigned as director of two firms which own the Trump Turnberry resort in Ayrshire – SLC Turnberry and its parent company Golf Recreation Scotland.

The fourth company is DT Connect Europe, which owns the Sikorsky helicopter that Trump brought from Florida in 2014 to transport his family between their two Scottish courses and to service wealthy golfers flying in to Prestwick airport, north of Turnberry.


Morgan wrote:
Obama didn't profit from US tax dollars, big difference. The thing is, "allowing" a President to profit from our tax dollars is up to the discretion of Congress and if the majority rule of Congress is the same as the presidents, they will kowtow to the desires of the president rather then doing the right thing and not allow this conflict of interest but we already know where our majority Congress lies, not high on the ethical bar rather they are aligned with someone such as low bar Trump.
Obama didn't profit from US tax dollars, big diffe... (show quote)

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May 14, 2018 09:44:27   #
Alicia Loc: NYC
 
Pennylynn wrote:
WOW.... so they received slightly over $7,000 (as of today's exchange rate) Bring in the executioner, sharpen the ax, build the fires..... my gosh, just think this meeting could have taken place right here in the states, like Hawaii and we could have footed the bill for $90,000 a day.

For years, eyes and ears have been closed...... now all of a sudden (well from 2016 onward) Liberals have become morally upright and have been saved from all evils; they now know right from wrong. I wonder, when a Democrats get back into office.... will they carry this knowledge with them, or will they get a reset and forget they once knew right from wrong.....
WOW.... so they received slightly over $7,000 (as ... (show quote)

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If 45 crapped on his desk you would find an excuse!

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May 14, 2018 09:53:08   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
JFlorio wrote:
Show the law or rule he broke or shut your yap,


They are pleading “emoluments”....

Little do they know no such thing exists or the State Dept. would not be authorizing payment of the places being used..

The mere fact that any place they use by Trump who holds Ownership is disclosed and they, the Dept.,not Trump, holds authority over it eliminates the “ perceived conflict of interest or any emoluments violation.. Under the emoluments clause Trump must disclose any gift recieved or enrichment, etc~

No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State...

Further~~

The prohibition against officers receiving a present or emolument is essentially an antibribery rule to prevent influence by a foreign power.[17] At the Virginia Ratifying Convention, Edmund Randolph, a delegate to the Constitutional Convention, identified the Clause as a key "provision against the danger ... of the president receiving emoluments from foreign powers."[18]

The decision whether to permit exceptions that qualify the Clause’s absolute prohibition or that temper any harshness it may cause is textually committed to Congress, which may give consent to the acceptance of offices or emoluments otherwise barred by the Clause.[19]..

You can bet Trump is sure to follow the letter of the laws here knowing full well many would love to claim he was enriching himself, just as we see right here in this thread...

As Penny correctly points out had another place been chosen you can bet the expenses involved would have far exceeded the $8000 paid out.. That however isn't addressed here..As well as addressing Trumps divestments from the different businesses.. Something he did not have to legally do to begin with.. He can own anything he wants.. He did so because it shows like other President an attempt to elinimate conflicts..A choice in other words..

Why is it allowed, why no charges?? Well again there would have to be a violation.. In full disclosure to the Dept and having approval there is no violation, there is however, conformity of the law as is required, again not addressed here...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_of_Nobility_Clause

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May 14, 2018 10:03:51   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Alicia wrote:
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If 45 crapped on his desk you would find an excuse!


Spoken like a well educated women...

Penny doesn’t work off excuses.. She does, however, speak knowing the topic being discussed...!!

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May 14, 2018 10:17:43   #
kcstargoat
 
Morgan wrote:
Donald Trump’s flagship Scottish resort received thousands of pounds in US taxpayers’ money to host VIP visits by officials from his administration, an investigation by The Scotsman can reveal. The US president’s resort at Turnberry received more than £5,600 in federal funds to provide accommodation for the trip earlier this year.

Read more at: https://www.scotsman.com/news/donald-trump-s-scottish-resort-paid-by-us-taxpayers-for-vip-visit-1-4738591

It adds further fuel to the debate surrounding the ethics of the president’s ability to enrich himself through US taxpayers’ money while remaining in office.

Read more at: https://www.scotsman.com/news/donald-trump-s-scottish-resort-paid-by-us-taxpayers-for-vip-visit-1-4738591

This is another hotel he's getting away with this crap...why? Where are the rules and laws in place for the presidency that are in place to prevent this very thing?
Donald Trump’s flagship Scottish resort received t... (show quote)

As long as the rooms are comfortable and the staff accommodating, I don't care who stays in Trumps hotels and motels. Is Howard Johnson's or the Marriott complaining?=>

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May 14, 2018 10:48:59   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Not excuses.... in everything that happens, people must ask the logical question....what if what I am being told is untrue? Then that person, if having the ability, will go looking into facts and see if the facts match the postulated sequence . If they do not match, then that individual is obligated to deliver those finding for others to consider.
It is possible that I am wrong, or the sources... such as documents on file (in this case, Scotland) my not hold the latest or most up to date data. If that is untrue, because you have the most current information, then produce it. There is no need to debase yourself by producing only attempts to insult.


Alicia wrote:
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If 45 crapped on his desk you would find an excuse!

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May 14, 2018 10:50:10   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Yea, yea, yawn. And if he polished his desk you'd say the polish was made in Russia.
Alicia wrote:
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If 45 crapped on his desk you would find an excuse!

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