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May 3, 2018 18:27:56   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
oldroy wrote:
Hmmmmmmmmm, your poster looks like so many before I told you about Occupy Democrats. Did you really not know about that bunch before I told you about them? I really think I saw those words in the left hand corner in a number of your anti-Trump posts before that. Yep, you sure were getting a lot of your stuff from that source, weren't you.

Lets talk about MoveOn.Org as one of your sources, too.




Clearly I knew about them, they, or someone on their behalf sent me hundreds of cartoons..

But I did not know they had an organization and a news service.. Thanks for the clue.. I like it.. twice now I have cruised their pages..

Move on also? I guess so. I do not notice who send most of the stuff I get..

I also do not post most of the stuff that come to my news page...



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May 3, 2018 19:25:56   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
permafrost wrote:
Clearly I knew about them, they, or someone on their behalf sent me hundreds of cartoons..

But I did not know they had an organization and a news service.. Thanks for the clue.. I like it.. twice now I have cruised their pages..

Move on also? I guess so. I do not notice who send most of the stuff I get..

I also do not post most of the stuff that come to my news page...
Haha...

Didn't know MoveOn had a anti-American propaganda site that they call news.

LOL

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May 3, 2018 19:38:15   #
maryla
 
WE'LL JUST SEE...
Chocura750 wrote:
When enacted just a few months ago it was sold as a massive job creator; it hasn't.
It was supposed to boost economic growth: it didn't.
And then there were some who predicted it would increase the national debt; it has.
The U.S. last quarter borrowed $488 Billion dollars which was the greatest quarterly borrowing since the $549 Billion borrowed in Q4 2008 when the economy was collapsing and hundreds of thousands of jobs a month were being lost.
This current debt increase will continue for economists estimate that a total of $1 Trillion $200 Billion will be the total increased amount the U.S. will borrow this year.
There will be a similar increase next year.
The argument that the benefits of the tax cut take a while to kick in is garbage.
At full employment there are no more jobs that can be created and without additional jobs the gross domestic product will not increase.
However, inflation will increase. The stock market will crash. And the real economy will contract.
A curse on those in Washington who knew this would happen, but lacked the courage to oppose a delusional President.
When enacted just a few months ago it was sold as ... (show quote)

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May 3, 2018 23:30:33   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
permafrost wrote:
every thing that you paste into your post has been answered and proved false over and over.. You have nothing but the same old lies and dreams repeated over and over..


Did you fail to notice that you posted two successive posters from OccupyDemocrats? I won't be telling you about any more far left sites because you have showed such mistrust.

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May 4, 2018 07:34:29   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
permafrost wrote:
Back into decline???

We had 7 years of improving job numbers, recovering economy and led the world back to the present status which is threatened by the orange tax gift and his trade foolishness..

Yeah, let’s talk about Hillary’s “extraordinary stamina…”

https://youtu.be/Rbp3yne4h_4
https://youtu.be/U5VfC33aUUQ
https://youtu.be/TS4LccgMf84

http://static.onepoliticalplaza.com/upload/2018/5/3/t1-459403-0973_5139072032025083904_n.jpg

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May 4, 2018 09:16:04   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
oldroy wrote:
Did you fail to notice that you posted two successive posters from OccupyDemocrats? I won't be telling you about any more far left sites because you have showed such mistrust.




Then I guess OccupyDemocrats must fit with my beliefs... can not help that..

I do not revue the source of my cartoons.. I simply slap them on the site..

some have no connection at all to the thread..

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May 4, 2018 13:15:31   #
Geo
 
1,100 economists warn that Trump is repeating one of the biggest mistakes of the Great Depression
Over 1,100 leading economists sent a letter to President Donald Trump urging the president to reverse course on recent trade tactics — lest the US repeat one of the biggest mistakes of the Great Depression.
The letter, organized by the conservative-leaning National Taxpayers Union, warned that recent tariffs and trade protectionism were harmful to the US economy. The economists cited a 1930 letter that warned Congress against passing the Smoot-Hawley Act, a large package of tariffs that many studies cite as a major reason for the depth of the Great Depression.
"Congress did not take economists’ advice in 1930, and Americans across the country paid the price," the letter says. "The undersigned economists and teachers of economics strongly urge you not to repeat that mistake. Much has changed since 1930 — for example, trade is now significantly more important to our economy — but the fundamental economic principles as explained at the time have not."
The Smoot-Hawley tariffs, much like Trump's measures, were designed as protection for US industries. But they ended up making the situation worse.

Included on the new letter are 14 Nobel laureates and economists from across the political spectrum, including former chairs of the Council of Economic Advisers under Presidents Barack Obama, George W. Bush, and Bill Clinton.
The letter also quotes the warnings from the 1930 letter, which warns that tariffs raise prices on consumers, damage industries that rely on trade director or indirectly, hurt the fortunes of American farmers, and lead to retaliatory measures from other countries.
The 1930 letter also painted the tariffs as a threat to national security.
"Finally, we would urge our Government to consider the bitterness which a policy of higher tariffs would inevitably inject into our international relations," the 80-year-old letter read. "A tariff war does not furnish good soil for the growth of world peace."

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May 4, 2018 13:21:46   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
Geo wrote:
1,100 economists warn that Trump is repeating one of the biggest mistakes of the Great Depression
Over 1,100 leading economists sent a letter to President Donald Trump urging the president to reverse course on recent trade tactics — lest the US repeat one of the biggest mistakes of the Great Depression.
The letter, organized by the conservative-leaning National Taxpayers Union, warned that recent tariffs and trade protectionism were harmful to the US economy. The economists cited a 1930 letter that warned Congress against passing the Smoot-Hawley Act, a large package of tariffs that many studies cite as a major reason for the depth of the Great Depression.
"Congress did not take economists’ advice in 1930, and Americans across the country paid the price," the letter says. "The undersigned economists and teachers of economics strongly urge you not to repeat that mistake. Much has changed since 1930 — for example, trade is now significantly more important to our economy — but the fundamental economic principles as explained at the time have not."
The Smoot-Hawley tariffs, much like Trump's measures, were designed as protection for US industries. But they ended up making the situation worse.

Included on the new letter are 14 Nobel laureates and economists from across the political spectrum, including former chairs of the Council of Economic Advisers under Presidents Barack Obama, George W. Bush, and Bill Clinton.
The letter also quotes the warnings from the 1930 letter, which warns that tariffs raise prices on consumers, damage industries that rely on trade director or indirectly, hurt the fortunes of American farmers, and lead to retaliatory measures from other countries.
The 1930 letter also painted the tariffs as a threat to national security.
"Finally, we would urge our Government to consider the bitterness which a policy of higher tariffs would inevitably inject into our international relations," the 80-year-old letter read. "A tariff war does not furnish good soil for the growth of world peace."
1,100 economists warn that Trump is repeating one ... (show quote)


Geo: Lets look at your article at face value......purely theory! Trump's agenda is to change the mindset of the Countries who don't want to play by the rules!

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May 5, 2018 07:04:07   #
Bill Robinson
 
A lot of proof here that if you just repeat lies again and again, people take them as fact. Funny, I just don’t recall Obama being the evil, conniving President you all seem to. On the other hand, you seem to love a guy that can’t complete a sentence without lying, hires the absolute worst people he can find, sleeps with anyone that will have him, and follows the Hitler playbook. History will show you were duped just like the Germans who are still scratching their heads.

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May 5, 2018 07:35:39   #
Morgan
 
old marine wrote:
To set the record straight it was the Demon-crat's Obummers administration that:

1. Spent more money in eight years than EVERY administration since George Washington including fighting all the war that were fought which are two numerous to list here.

2. Stole fourteen trillion dollars of the Social Security trust fund that is not part of the general public funds by replacing the money with worthless IOU bonds to balance the books.

3. Borrowed some 20 trillion dollars on America's credit and got our credit rate reduced from AAA. to AA.

4. Can not account for most of the money was spent.

This is just a portion of what was left for the newly elected president to deal with.

Semper Fi brother's and sister's
God bless America and President Trump
To set the record straight it was the Demon-crat's... (show quote)



I could argue every single one of your points, but first, do you have facts to back up any of your misinformation and slanted propaganda?

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May 5, 2018 09:28:02   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
Morgan wrote:
I could argue every single one of your points, but first, do you have facts to back up any of your misinformation and slanted propaganda?


You could argue but I would suggest you do a bit of research first.

Give me your best argument for point number three.

Here's the proof that America's credit rating was downgraded under the Obammy administration.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_federal_government_credit-rating_downgrades

Now what say you ?

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May 5, 2018 10:38:28   #
Morgan
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
You could argue but I would suggest you do a bit of research first.

Give me your best argument for point number three.

Here's the proof that America's credit rating was downgraded under the Obammy administration.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_federal_government_credit-rating_downgrades

Now what say you ?


I wasn't asking you for proof, I was asking the person who presented the accusations, as it is his responsibility to do so. As far as our credit downgrading I remember it like yesterday, tell me does Green Eggs and Ham filibuster ring any kind of bell for you? Do you also recall that blackmail to have the wealthy not have a tax increase in order to help pay down the debt of our unpaid war? A war that should have NEVER lasted a decade, but supplied a hefty income to our military and the military contractors.

To be clear the downgrade was caused by the budget not being approved which was the fault of the blackmailing GOP

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May 5, 2018 10:59:37   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
Morgan wrote:
I wasn't asking you for proof, I was asking the person who presented the accusations, as it is his responsibility to do so. As far as our credit downgrading I remember it like yesterday, tell me does Green Eggs and Ham filibuster ring any kind of bell for you? Do you also recall that blackmail to have the wealthy not have a tax increase in order to help pay down the debt of our unpaid war? A war that should have NEVER lasted a decade, but supplied a hefty income to our military and the military contractors.
I wasn't asking you for proof, I was asking the pe... (show quote)


The military and military contractors are the pinnacle of our priorities.

You may have noticed that we've been surrounded by enemies since the day we landed on Plymouth Rock.

We've been at war with the best of them and we can't afford to allow our war machine to gather dust or to rust.

We must keep our military polished and equipped with the weapons that represent overwhelming force.

So that you can continue to sit in your cozy little safe space and peck away at the keys of your discontent.

Go out and do something nice for someone in the military.

Then thank YHWH for the blessing of being born in America.

( Please enjoy this beautiful image of our first lady )



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May 5, 2018 11:26:14   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
The military and military contractors are the pinnacle of our priorities.

You may have noticed that we've been surrounded by enemies since the day we landed on Plymouth Rock.

We've been at war with the best of them and we can't afford to allow our war machine to gather dust or to rust.

We must keep our military polished and equipped with the weapons that represent overwhelming force.

So that you can continue to sit in your cozy little safe space and peck away at the keys of your discontent.

Go out and do something nice for someone in the military.

Then thank YHWH for the blessing of being born in America.

( Please enjoy this beautiful image of our first lady )
The military and military contractors are the pinn... (show quote)




Yet she, the orange man current occupant of the white house, was not born here, yet she is among us and she brought her parents over now also.

Is that some sort of action the right wing is always bitching about or is that only for the lower bleebs??



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May 5, 2018 11:37:32   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Morgan wrote:

To be clear the downgrade was caused by the budget not being approved which was the fault of the blackmailing GOP
No, it wasn't.

Every budget is contested.

Everyone knew the budget would be passed before long.

Nobody thought there would be a default on debt. Nobody.

Obama was promising to radically transform America. Promising to destroy healthcare. Surrendering to terrorists. Supporting the illegal alien invasion. Supporting every anti-capitolist group that crawled by.

You're really grasping at straws to blame a few hours of filllibuster for the planned failures of the Obama administration.

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