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Apr 14, 2018 12:50:53   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Dr. Evil wrote:
And the afterbirth speaks again😨



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Apr 14, 2018 12:59:19   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
snowbear37 wrote:
As long as there are people in this country that want to take away our rights, guns will be needed.


That is why the 2nd A was included.

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Apr 14, 2018 13:07:43   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
PeterS wrote:
The only self defense a conservative is worried about is the United States Government. That's the only reason they want semi-automatic weapons because they are terrified of the government. The irony is that through their paranoia the prophecy of the government domination will come true...


It is the government that is terrified of the people, and rightly so when they become Stalinists or Hitlerites. The 2nd A was implemented to protect the citizens from an overzealous government. But you progressives can't see that or else that is what you crave..until you get it, then you begin to scream and regret it. To see what you are advocating, check out Venezuela.

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Apr 14, 2018 13:19:04   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
PoppaGringo wrote:
That is why the 2nd A was included.



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Apr 14, 2018 13:20:09   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
PoppaGringo wrote:
It is the government that is terrified of the people, and rightly so when they become Stalinists or Hitlerites. The 2nd A was implemented to protect the citizens from an overzealous government. But you progressives can't see that or else that is what you crave..until you get it, then you begin to scream and regret it. To see what you are advocating, check out Venezuela.



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Apr 14, 2018 13:51:31   #
Gatsby
 
The AR type weapon, in civilian hands, is especially qualified in the role of

"improving the efficiency and effectiveness of the armed forces". Thus uniquely protected by the second amendment.

1. It uses the same ammo that the armed forces use; this is a huge logistical advantage.
2. It uses ths same magazines, and shares many common parts with currently issued military weapons also a big logistical advantage.
3. Its similarity in function and operation to military weapons, minimizes training requirements, another big logistical advantage.


Beginnin to see your problem yet?

PeterS wrote:
Oh, how cute, you think concealed carry protects you. There is nothing in the constitution that protects a semi-automatic weapon and the more people who are killed by them the greater the chance of them being banned...

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Apr 14, 2018 14:20:21   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
PeterS wrote:
You're colored...
Coloured.

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Apr 14, 2018 16:49:37   #
Big dog
 
PeterS wrote:
Oh it's past time but I imagine it's going to take a couple more mass shootings before a real movement can take place to move forward with a constitutional amendment. The thing is the kids are pissed and instead of sitting out an election are going to go to the polls and vote!


Please GO AWAY.

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Apr 14, 2018 17:02:52   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
PeterS wrote:
You're colored...


Another racist liberal exposes himself.

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Apr 14, 2018 17:06:44   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
Dumb remark.


You were expecting something else ?

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Apr 14, 2018 17:08:39   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
PeterS wrote:
Blade you get an A for taking things out of context. I take it that's how you got your masters in English. Now was that a four year school or an on line version. The comment was made that only stupid people cause mass shootings and I just corrected the "logical" error to correctly state that it was stupid people carrying semi automatic weapons that cause mass shootings. We will always have stupid people forever but it's only when we put a semi auto weapon in their hands that they turn into mass shooters...

In fact, I can only think of one mass shooting where the shooter used a bolt action rifle and that was the Texas tower shooter in the 60's. There he was up high, nice and safe, so had time to reload and shoot all day. Today a shooter has only a matter of minutes so has to kill quickly before they are killed. Today a bolt action rifle simply isn't a tool a mass shooter would consider...

And who are you using for your statistics? According to Mass Shooting Tracker in 2015 there were 375 mass shootings killing 475 people and wounding 1,870. Hell I think in 2018 alone they show as many mass shooting as you have for all years...

http://www.shootingtracker.com/
Blade you get an A for taking things out of contex... (show quote)
Did you peruse the stats posted at shooting tracker? The heading is deceptive. To see just how ingenious and logical you really are, I counted the number of shootings listed for 2015, 2016, 2017, and 2018.

A mass killing is defined as the murder of 4 or more people by one or more shooters in a single incident at one location.

A spree killing is defined as the murder of 2 or more people by one of more shooters at separate locations with little time lapse between shootings.

Serial killings are defined as the murder of 3 or more people by one or more shooters, but each victim is killed on separate occasions. Unlike mass murderers and spree killers, serial killers usually select their victims, have cooling-off periods between murders, and plan their crimes carefully.

Going back 4 years, here's the tally from shooting tracker:

2015: of the 333 shootings listed, 21 qualify as mass shootings.
2016: of the 383 shootings listed, 23 qualify as mass shootings.
2017: of the 346 shootings listed, 21 qualify as mass shootings.
2018: of the 63 shootings listed, 2 qualify as mass shootings.

However, shooting tracker provides few details about the shootings, and no mention of firearms used, so unless you click the "view incident" or "view source" links posted for each shooting of 4 or more, there is no way to tell whether it was a mass shooting or a spree killing. Unless, of course, you are already informed about the incident. Apparently, shooting tracker is attempting to provide only basic data on ALL shootings that occurred during a given year. Moreover, in a significant percentage of shootings listed for each year, the number of people killed is 0.

The stats I posted were compiled by Mother Jones via Everytown. This source provides significant data on each shooting, including firearms used. However, due to listings of shootings in which there were only 3 victims (which may have been spree killings), the number of deaths attributed to mass shootings had to be revised. From 1982 to present, 524 people died in mass shootings.

BTW, I am puzzled, but not offended, that in many of your replies to me, you bring up my education, of which you know next to nothing about. I believe I mentioned my major, minor, and final GPA score which compared to what I've learned, the knowledge and experience I've gained in my life, is insignificant. FYI: I was a student in residence at a private university for 6 years. Formal educations are academic, you learn stuff that hopefully will have some real world applications. In my case, I've applied it rather well. At least I can write a coherent sentence, punctuate it properly, and spell words, even big ones like Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious Plus, I do know the difference between "there", "their" and "they're".

My extensive knowledge and experience in the use, and abuse, of firearms goes back to age 5 when I fired my first shot. Funny thing, throughout all these years, I've never hurt anyone, including myself. My dad was a good teacher.

One more thing, Pete, some mass shooters may be stupid, some are quite intelligent, but ALL of them are, for many reasons, mentally disturbed and/or ravaged by drug abuse.

I always find it amusing when a gun hating, anti-2nd amendment liberal attempts to inform gun owners on what guns we can possess, where, when and how we can shoot them, or mostly why we shouldn't possess guns at all. So, go for it again, Pete, ramp up that phenomenal logic of yours and kick some gunslinger's ass.

Molon labe

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Apr 14, 2018 17:11:13   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Did you peruse the stats posted at shooting tracker? The heading is deceptive. To see just how ingenious and logical you really are, I counted the number of shootings listed for 2015, 2016, 2017, and 2018.

A mass killing is defined as the murder of 4 or more people by one or more shooters in a single incident at one location.

A spree killing is defined as the murder of 2 or more people by one of more shooters at separate locations with little time lapse between shootings.

Serial killings are defined as the murder of 3 or more people by one or more shooters, but each victim is killed on separate occasions. Unlike mass murderers and spree killers, serial killers usually select their victims, have cooling-off periods between murders, and plan their crimes carefully.

Going back 4 years, here's the tally from shooting tracker:

2015: of the 333 shootings listed, 21 qualify as mass shootings.
2016: of the 383 shootings listed, 23 qualify as mass shootings.
2017: of the 346 shootings listed, 21 qualify as mass shootings.
2018: of the 63 shootings listed, 2 qualify as mass shootings.

However, shooting tracker provides few details about the shootings, and no mention of firearms used, so unless you click the "view incident" or "view source" links posted for each shooting of 4 or more, there is no way to tell whether it was a mass shooting or a spree killing. Unless, of course, you are already informed about the incident. Apparently, shooting tracker is attempting to provide only basic data on ALL shootings that occurred during a given year. Moreover, in a significant percentage of shootings listed for each year, the number of people killed is 0.

The stats I posted were compiled by Mother Jones via Everytown. This source provides significant data on each shooting, including firearms used. However, due to listings of shootings in which there were only 3 victims (which may have been spree killings), the number of deaths attributed to mass shootings had to be revised. From 1982 to present, 524 people died in mass shootings.

BTW, I am puzzled, but not offended, that in many of your replies to me, you bring up my education, of which you know next to nothing about. I believe I mentioned my major, minor, and final GPA score which compared to what I've learned, the knowledge and experience I've gained in my life, is insignificant. FYI: I was a student in residence at a private university for 6 years. Formal educations are academic, you learn stuff that hopefully will have some real world applications. In my case, I've applied it rather well. At least I can write a coherent sentence, punctuate it properly, and spell words, even big ones like Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious Plus, I do know the difference between "there", "their" and "they're".

My extensive knowledge and experience in the use, and abuse, of firearms goes back to age 5 when I fired my first shot. Funny thing, throughout all these years, I've never hurt anyone, including myself. My dad was a good teacher.

One more thing, Pete, some mass shooters may be stupid, some are quite intelligent, but ALL of them are, for many reasons, mentally disturbed and/or ravaged by drug abuse.

I always find it amusing when a gun hating, anti-2nd amendment liberal attempts to inform gun owners on what guns we can possess, where, when and how we can shoot them, or mostly why we shouldn't possess guns at all. So, go for it again, Pete, ramp up that phenomenal logic of yours and kick some gunslinger's ass.

Molon labe
Did you peruse the stats posted at shooting tracke... (show quote)


F*** the 2nd amendment.

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Apr 14, 2018 17:11:53   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
PoppaGringo wrote:
It is the government that is terrified of the people, and rightly so when they become Stalinists or Hitlerites. The 2nd A was implemented to protect the citizens from an overzealous government. But you progressives can't see that or else that is what you crave..until you get it, then you begin to scream and regret it. To see what you are advocating, check out Venezuela.
Or Honduras, Guatemala, and Belize. Bad Booby is always hysterical, has been since the rotten egg cracked open and out he spilled.

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Apr 14, 2018 17:18:39   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Bad Bob wrote:
F*** the 2nd amendment.

Good luck trying, Troll.

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Apr 14, 2018 19:11:13   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Machine guns?

Try and keep up, Bob. I know you have problems with that, betimes. Common usage. Machine guns are not common. Semi-autos are quite common.

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