Justsss Loc: Wisconsin

Thank you for pointing out the truth that some on here will never accept.
I’m so sorry that I responded to this food fight and ask that all forgive me for making anyone feel angry or sad. The devil is rejoicing about this mess.

Justsss Loc: Wisconsin

AMEN & AMEN, thank you for your honest stand.

out of the woods Loc: to hell and gone New York State

It means, that when God looks at one who is saved, He sees Christ. GOD cannot look upon sin or allow it in His presence. We, no matter how hard we try are unable to achieve the perfection that Heaven requires.I myself performed some heroic feats for church and God, but in the end these are mainly done so that we my appear before men as holy, and leads to pride, and the mistaken belief that we have earned our spot on the roll call of Heaven. "There is none Holy, no not one." Accepting Christ also means accepting how wretched and in need of a Savior we are. You keep asking, and my faith compels me to reply, no matter how unpopular my statement may be, anything less would be a denial of the Savior I know, and your blood would be on my hands.

mwdegutis Loc: Illinois

Jesus’ words must be understood as a figure of speech in which the visible results of His coming are stated as the apparent purpose of His coming. He says He did not come to bring peace but a sword. Actually He did come to make peace (Ephesians 2:14-17); He came that the world might be saved through Him (John 3:17).

But the point here is that whenever individuals became His followers, their families would turn against them. A converted father would be opposed by his unbelieving son, a Christian mother by her unsaved daughter. A born again mother-in-law would be hated by her unregenerate daughter-in-law. So a choice must often be made between Christ and family. No ties of nature can be allowed to deflect a disciple from utter allegiance to the Lord. The Savior must take precedence over father, mother, son or daughter. One of the costs of discipleship is to experience tension, strife, and alienation from one's own family. This hostility is often more bitter than is encountered in other areas of life.

But there is something even more apt to rob Christ of His rightful place than family—that is, the love of one's own life. So Jesus added, "And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me." The cross, of course, was a means of execution. To take the cross and follow Christ means to live in such devoted abandonment to Him that even death itself is not too high a price to pay. Not all disciples are required to lay down their lives for the Lord, but all are called on to value Him so highly that they do not count their lives precious to themselves.

If you’re truly saved in your heart, it doesn’t mean that you’re no longer a sinner. Positionally, you are saved, but practically you’ll still sin and be working out your salvation for the rest of your life because your body is not redeemed, which won’t happen until the Rapture of the Church. It’s a constant battle because it’s easy to be “in the flesh” but it doesn’t change that you’re still saved. The only way you’ll “get better” is through the Word, faith, and fellowship.

Not my rules but God’s. You can be the worst person (actually we ALL are) in the world and as long as we claim salvation by faith of the atoning death of Jesus Christ that person is as Paul said, “a new creature.” So if the “Satans” of the 20th century did that before they died, they were saved.

You “read” the Bible and you make the claim. The burden is on you to prove it. The Bible is replete with mentions of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. Why don’t you pick it up, read it, and learn more about Them.

Per the Old Testament, there can be no remission of sins without the shedding of blood. We have all sinned and have fallen short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23). The wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. (Romans 6:23). Jesus shed His blood when he died as a substitute for us on the cross. When we accept Jesus as our savior by what he did for us on the cross, the shedding of His blood acts as atonement for our sins, hence “being covered by the blood of Jesus” and being saved.

You want to know how to be saved? Five simple steps:

1. Admit you are a sinner – Romans 3:23 For everyone has sinned; we all fall short of God’s glorious standard.
2. Understand that as a sinner, you will die – Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life through Christ Jesus our Lord.
3. Believe that Jesus died on the cross and was raised from the dead to save you from sin and death – Romans 10:9-11; 13 9 If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is by believing in your heart that you are made right with God, and it is by confessing with your mouth that you are saved. 11 As the Scriptures tell us, “Anyone who trusts in him will never be disgraced.”… 13 For “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”
4. Receive, in faith through Jesus, his free gift of salvation – Romans 5:1 Therefore, since we have been made right in God’s sight by faith, we have peace with God because of what Jesus Christ our Lord has done for us.
5. Repent by turning from your old life of sin to a new life in Jesus – Acts 3:19 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out…

pafret Loc: Northeast

The truth you are lauding is to put it in simplest terms, a pack of lies promulgated by stupid people who broadcast their hatred of Catholicism, which was taught to them, with these calumnies. Not one of these posters has taken the time to learn what Catholicism teaches nor its biblical and historical precedents but they all have the same sets of verses and citations to justify their hatred. You waste your time in vilifying Catholics, time that would be better spent in bringing your own lives into cosonance with God's ethical and moral laws instead of spewing hatred on people who offer you no harm.

I don't understand why you are not attacking the fake seers, mediums, prophets, Ouija board players and all of the other hosts of occult demon worshipers but you find it imperative to attack a religion which was the progenitor of yours if you profess to be a Christian.

Justsss Loc: Wisconsin

Well I guess that you missed my point and my apology. I have nothing more to add to this food fight.

bahmer

Just a thought to all of us on Philippians 2:12

Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed,
not as in my presence only, but now much more in
my absence, work out your own salvation
with fear and trembling.

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

malachi wrote:
If people really read up on the history of the romanist church they would be
as embarrassed as I am to EVER have been called a catholic.

To laud and worship il papa leaves Jesus in the cold. Popes "consign" their
souls to Mary when they die, who is neither intercessor nor mediator. She
rejoiced in God her saviour and died a normal human being saved from sin.



This is a complete misrepresentation I(I'll be kind here) of what the Church teaches. And if you read up on the history of ANY denomination you'd be embarrassed of what its leaders have done. We worship no one but God in the Trinity.

You're entitled to your own opinion Malachi but you're not entitled to your own facts.

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

Sure. When the going gets tough, quit.

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

You just proved what I've been saying from the beginning but you will never see it.

out of the woods Loc: to hell and gone New York State

With all sincerity, I wish to thank you all for causing me to examine my belief, to find that it remains firm, Gods word is faithful. Nothing remains here but to shake the dust from my feet and move on. God Bless.

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

And what exactly do you mean there mwdegutis by a new life in Jesus?

As far as I am concerned it means living life in accordance with His precepts, namely by his golden rule. It doesn't stop with accepting His atonement. That's where it starts.

Justsss Loc: Wisconsin

I’m with you there.

mwdegutis Loc: Illinois

Me too.

jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana

Me too!