Rod Rosenstein Gave Mueller Secret Permission to Expand Investigation Beyond Trump (Page 2): Yet you never said this about BO, hillary etc before.. Hypocrisy rules, eh??

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Kevyn wrote:

Mueller could give the entire Trump team a public proctological examination for all I care. The only thing that matters is that they are held accountable for any criminal acts they have committed.

Yet you never said this about BO, hillary etc before..

Hypocrisy rules, eh??

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

moldyoldy wrote:

Manafort's crimes of today, have tentacles that go back decades, he did not just start being a crook and a foreign agent.

How is what he did or didn't do Trumps responsibility???

Hillary and Bills went back decades too yet nothing done about it, why?? They are responsible for their own action....

moldyoldy

lindajoy wrote:

How is what he did or didn't do Trumps responsibility???

Hillary and Bills went back decades too yet nothing done about it, why?? They are responsible for their own action....

The investigation started with contact between Russian sies and members of trumps team. It was surprising that so many had Russian contact and they all lied about it. Why did they lie if it was innocent, including sessions.

mactheknife

moldyoldy wrote:

The investigation started with contact between Russian sies and members of trumps team. It was surprising that so many had Russian contact and they all lied about it. Why did they lie if it was innocent, including sessions.

You need to look at each case. There have not been "so many" contacts as you claim. Only Gates and Flyn had contact with the Russians, to my knowledge. On the other hand, a host of Democrats, including Hillary Clinton, Podesta, Bill Clinton, and all of those involved with Uranium One were in intimate contact with Russians. What about them, do they get a free pass? Gates was not working for Trump at the time and in no way spoke for the Trump campaign. Flyn had a legitimate reason for speaking to the Russian Ambassador but obviously got bad legal advise and fell victim of a "perjury trap". You should follow Alan Dershowitz on the dangers of a "perjury trap"; my betting that Flyn's misstatement was inadvertent and that he will be eventually be cleared. Please be accurate in your statements so that this discussion is meaningful.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

moldyoldy wrote:

The investigation started with contact between Russian sies and members of trumps team. It was surprising that so many had Russian contact and they all lied about it. Why did they lie if it was innocent, including sessions.

What is surprising is your Podesta having business investments and returns with two separate companies that he oops forgot to disclose or claim on his taxes or report under the disclosure agreement in his position.. He said he just forgot for those two years and after caught signed over to his brother....

We won't even go into the foundation pay for play of hillaries or all the money funneled through it in investments for the uranium deal or Comey being paid some six million dollars from that same slush fund..

All of these people directly tied to their cozy little sell out schemes..

And geez how many private meetings did Bo have with that double agt Russian spy (name escapes me) right there in the whitehouse???

mactheknife

lindajoy wrote:

What is surprising is your Podesta having business... (show quote)

Yes, all of that needs to be looked at and Rosenstein and Mueller are not the people to do it as they are hopelessly compromised. That is why we need a second special counsel with strong prosecutorial powers. I doubt that Huber is that man, because he is beholden to Sessions and the DoJ. We need someone who answers to our elected representatives who are ultimately answerable to we, the people.

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

mactheknife wrote:

That is not a fact. At best, it might be classified as "hearsay" or "conjecture". We need facts.

Just ask Lindajoy or KK, she got some good reliable sources.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

mactheknife wrote:

Yes, all of that needs to be looked at and Rosenstein and Mueller are not the people to do it as they are hopelessly compromised. That is why we need a second special counsel with strong prosecutorial powers. I doubt that Huber is that man, because he is beholden to Sessions and the DoJ. We need someone who answers to our elected representatives who are ultimately answerable to we, the people.

Both Rosenstein and Mueller have serious conflicts of interest neither acknowledge Which shoots their Credibility on that alone...

I no longer trust Sessions or respect him..He’s just another deep state player in my opinion....
He’s slow to the draw and needs too much pushing to get anything done...I agree with you on Huber too..

moldyoldy

mactheknife wrote:

You need to look at each case. There have not bee... (show quote)

Since your sources do not provide much in the way of facts, you are misinformed about the Russia ties. Also Clinton did not sign off on the uranium deal because it was not important enough to even get to her desk. Flynn has much more to answer for if they decide to use it.

mactheknife

moldyoldy wrote:

Since your sources do not provide much in the way of facts, you are misinformed about the Russia ties. Also Clinton did not sign off on the uranium deal because it was not important enough to even get to her desk. Flynn has much more to answer for if they decide to use it.

Talk about "guilt by association". I dare say that you know a few criminals? Does that also make you a criminal? In 1939, Neville Chamberlin met Adolf Hitler in Munich and came back with the still infamous "peace in our times". Does that make Chamberlin a Nazi? I heard on NPR that former Sec. of State, Madeline Albright met Vladimir Putin in New Zealand at a conference. Does that make her guilty of collusion? I could go on ad infinitum, but the point is made; your reasoning is as diseased as it is stupid.

moldyoldy

mactheknife wrote:

Talk about "guilt by association". I da... (show quote)

You fill out your security clearance form and you lie about your contact with Russian spies, maybe you don't care, but I do.

mactheknife

moldyoldy wrote:

You fill out your security clearance form and you lie about your contact with Russian spies, maybe you don't care, but I do.

Are you telling me that all of those people in your chart lied? If so, please tell us how you know.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Wasting your time. Moldy's a lefty troll. Will go to some left wing site and post BS innuendo as facts

mactheknife wrote:

Are you telling me that all of those people in your chart lied? If so, please tell us how you know.

moldyoldy

mactheknife wrote:

Are you telling me that all of those people in your chart lied? If so, please tell us how you know.

As of 3/17, more now.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/03/02/trump-teams-many-many-denials-contacts-russia/98625780/

mactheknife

moldyoldy wrote:

As of 3/17, more now.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/03/02/trump-teams-many-many-denials-contacts-russia/98625780/

You keep citing the MSM (USA Today, a partisan rag). Have you not learned anything over the past year? Fake news!!!!! Let's see, in my capacity as a scientist, I am in constant contact with colleagues in Russia, I have published in their journals, I have published joint papers with Russian colleagues, I have presented lectures in their universities, and I communicate with them. Am I to be put on your list because I also support President Trump? My ties with the Chinese are even deeper as I spent 4 months at the Chinese Academy of Science's Institute of Metals Research in Shenyang a few years ago. The whole matter is as silly as it is absurd and the closest analogy I can come up with is Sen. Joseph McCarthy's red witch hunt of the 1950s. Is that what you want? You need to think very carefully, because we could compile a much longer list of Dems who have been in contact with Russians. Like the old saying says: "What goes around comes around".