capitalist

Sadly, everything you need to know about the crisis in Ukraine in one worrisome map which summarizes all the relevant "red

and this video shows Nuland bragging about why we put 5 billion into disrupting Ukraine.
http://www.sott.net/article/273602-US-Assistant-Secretary-of-State-Victoria-Nuland-says-Washington-has-spent-5-billion-trying-to-subvert-Ukraine
See the big Chevron sign next to the corporate whore?
"Nuland’s speech failed to alert the Ukraine protesters, who are determined to destroy the independence of Ukraine and to place their country in the hands of the IMF so that it can be looted like Latvia, Greece and every country that ever had an IMF structural adjustment program. All the monies that protesters are paid by the US and EU will soon be given back manyfold as Ukraine is “adjusted” by Western looting.

In her short speech the neoconservative agitator Nuland alleged that the protesters whom Washington has spent $5 billion cultivating were protesting “peacefully with enormous restraint” against a brutal government.

According to RT, which has much more credibility than the US State Department (remember Secretary of State Colin Powell’s address to the UN setting up the US invasion of Iraq with his “evidence” of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, a speech Powell later disavowed as Bush regime disinformation), Ukrainian rioters have seized 1,500 guns, 100,000 rounds of ammunition, 3 machine guns, and grenades from military armories.

The human-rights trained Ukrainian police have permitted the violence to get out of hand. A number of police have been burned by Molotov cocktails. The latest report is that 108 police have been shot. A number are dead and 63 are in critical condition. http://rt.com/news/ukraine-kiev-firearms-weapons-police-934/ These casualties are the products of Nuland’s “peacefully protesting protesters acting with enormous restraint.” On February 20, the elected, independent Ukraine government responded to the rioters use of firearms by allowing police to use firearms in self-defense.

Perhaps the Russophobic western Ukrainians deserve the IMF, and perhaps the EU deserves the extreme nationalists who are trying to topple the Ukraine government. Once Ukrainians experience being looted by the West, they will be on their knees begging Russia to rescue them. The only certain thing is that it is unlikely that the Russian part of Ukraine will remain part of Ukraine.

During the Soviet era, parts of Russia herself, such as the Crimea, were placed into the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, perhaps in order to increase the Russian population in Ukraine. In other words, a large part of today’s Ukraine–eastern and southern provinces–are traditional Russian territory, not part of historical Ukraine.

Until Russia granted Ukraine independence in the early 1990s, Ukraine had experienced scant independence since the 14th century and had been a part of Russia for 200 years. The problem with the grant of independence is that much of Ukraine is not Ukrainian. It is Russian.

As I have reported previously(Dr Paul Craig Roberts), Russia regards the prospect of Ukraine as a member of the EU with NATO with US bases on Russia’s frontier as a “strategic threat.” It is unlikely that the Russian government and the Russian territories in Ukraine will accept Washington’s plan for Ukraine. Whatever their intention, Secretary of State John Kerry’s provocative statements are raising tensions and fomenting war. The vast bulk of the American and Western populations have no idea of what the real situation is, because all they hear from the “free press” is the neoconservative propaganda line.

Washington’s lies are destroying not only civil liberties at home and countries abroad, but are raising dangerous alarms in Russia about the country’s security. If Washington succeeds in overthrowing the Ukrainian government, the eastern and southern provinces are likely to secede. If secession becomes a civil war instead of a peaceful divorce, Russia would not be able to sit on the sidelines. As the Washington warmongers would be backing western Ukraine, the two nuclear powers would be thrown into military conflict.

The Ukrainian and Russian governments allowed this dangerous situation to develop, because they naively permitted for many years billions of US dollars to flow into their countries where the money was used to create fifth columns under the guise of educational and human rights organizations, the real purpose of which is to destabilize both countries. The consequence of the trust Ukrainians and Russians placed in the West is the prospect of civil and wider war."
This posted was created using a lot of material from Dr Paul Craig Roberts.

PhilosophyMan Loc: Washington state.

this is...

Loki Loc: Georgia

What is your point? Your statement is unclear.

capitalist

I was stumped also.
I concluded that it must be much to philosophically advanced for me to grasp. :|

hprinze Loc: Central Florida

Another example of the U.S. government meddling in the internal affairs of a foreign nation.

When will they ever learn?

capitalist

They have been doing it a long time too. Check out this leaked memo from 1957 addressing Syria.
http://globalresearch.ca/syria-cia-mi6-intel-ops-and-sabotage/29126

This is how I know that there is no difference in parties because they have all done the same thing when sitting in the oval office. Party line is just theatre for the sheep.

Loki Loc: Georgia

He is usually well-spoken, and unambiguous. He must be having an off day.

hprinze Loc: Central Florida

The dem and repub politicians are corrupt.
But the dems are far more practiced and accomplished at it.

grace scott

This is how I know that there is no difference in parties because they have all done the same thing when sitting in the oval office. Party line is just theatre for the sheep.[/quote]


I never thought I would agree with you on anything, but you hit the nail on the head. Both parties stick their noses into other countries business. I don't know if the protestors in the Ukraine have legitimate concerns; but as long as they are not threatening our country, It's non of our business.

capitalist

I never thought I would agree with you on anything, but you hit the nail on the head. Both parties stick their noses into other countries business. I don't know if the protestors in the Ukraine have legitimate concerns; but as long as they are not threatening our country, It's non of our business.[/quote]

Washington sees it as our business due to the outside OPEC energy deals that are being made without the petrol dollar and fears it challenges their hopeless battle to retain global reserve currency status.
The energy partnership within the EU-Russia Energy Dialogue aims at improving the investment opportunities in the energy sector to ensure continued energy production, to secure and expand transportation infrastructure. (Ukraine)

jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI

"When will 'THEY' ever learn?" Now you RWEs think of us Americans as "they"? Such patriots.

capitalist

Look another ignorant turd who thinks he has a say in Washington policy.

jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI

Hi Pana. Thought I recognized your Putin put putt puttting. Same filth talk, too.

capitalist

Your an odd little man.

jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI

Not as odd as "your"... :D :D :-D