Big Problems With Rosenstein's Secret Memo Expanding Mueller's Mandate:...

fullspinzoo

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/04/big_problems_with_rosensteins_secret_memo_expanding_muellers_mandate.html It's pretty clear these guys are in cahoots against the President. And who can put a stop to it without causing a major uproar?

boatbob2

Its a witch hunt,Donald is innocent.

bahmer

fullspinzoo wrote:

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/04/big_problems_with_rosensteins_secret_memo_expanding_muellers_mandate.html It's pretty clear these guys are in cahoots against the President. And who can put a stop to it without causing a major uproar?

Sessions needs to step in and put the brakes to this nonsense or he is going to be in hot water himself. He really needs to fire Rosenstein that's what should happen.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

bahmer wrote:

Sessions needs to step in and put the brakes to this nonsense or he is going to be in hot water himself. He really needs to fire Rosenstein that's what should happen.

Mueller announced today that the President is not a target of any criminal investigation. In other words he’s saying I have nothing, never did, on Russian anything, but hey, I’m a swamp thing and must dance to my masters at taxpayer expense

fitzirma

I agree Rosenstein should be fired

fullspinzoo

bahmer wrote:

Sessions needs to step in and put the brakes to this nonsense or he is going to be in hot water himself. He really needs to fire Rosenstein that's what should happen.

I agree. Rosenstein betrayed Trump when he hired Mueller. Why Mueller is allowed to go outside the scope of Russia-Trump collusion is beyond me? But this is what the Dems do. And let's not be calling him a "loyal conservative". Remember when the Dems had a team of liberal (pretty much includes 95% of them) reporters go up to Alaska and try to find dirt on Sarah Palin? and they found nothing. There is some kind of connection there between Comey, Mueller, McCabe, and Rosenstein and they have each other's back. I know they worked on the Uranium One deal back in 2010 together, but other than that I'm not sure of the connection.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

bahmer wrote:

Sessions needs to step in and put the brakes to this nonsense or he is going to be in hot water himself. He really needs to fire Rosenstein that's what should happen.

Politically impossible at the moment because Sessions recused himself. I agree Rosenstein needs to go

bahmer

JFlorio wrote:

Politically impossible at the moment because Sessions recused himself. I agree Rosenstein needs to go

He only recused himself of the Trump Russian collusion part not the rest of it. Mueller is investigating Trump's business dealings from years ago and that is not what Sessions recused himself from therefor he should step in and tell Rosenstein to tell Mueller to cease and desist or be fired.

woodguru

You forget something key to this. The "secret memo" simply widened the scope of things that could be involved in the task at hand.

Here's the most important fact of all. If Trump had nothing to do with any contacts with Russia throughout the campaign, he has nothing to worry about.

We know beyond any shadow of a doubt that Trump's campaign staff was full of people who had been dealing with Russians for many years. They were money and influence brokers, their brands of consulting had to do with brokering influence and sales, and money laundering in some cases. They were conducting business like this in ways that were not above board in that they were intentionally not being open about their businesses. They were often taking large sums of cash and not paying taxes on it. All of this activity has a paper trail, and when these players go through convoluted shell companies designed to hide money it's that much more incriminating.

If Trump is innocent, if he had no knowledge of people he was involved with being involved in Russian cyber influence, then it will be shown he is innocent. If those in his campaign and transition were, it unfortunately rubs off on Trump. Trump's campaign and transition is Trump, the election is Trump.

Pay attention to facts. The FBI knows that Flynn called his Russian big wig contact as Trump was being inaugurated, assuring him that the sanctions would be lifted. The administration made it clear that job one was lifting sanctions and giving Russia back their two spy compounds Obama had taken away. The first day of office the GOP lifted the requirement that US corporations disclose any money transferred to foreign interests, thereby allowing Exxon to proceed with giving Putin $500 Billion for their oil deal.

Nothing has been done to crank down security on state computers we know were hacked, efforts that were underway were defunded and stopped....

This is keeping America safe? No problem with Russia interfering in elections as long as they support Republicans? Hey, we know they were active in cyber influence, but hey, it didn't affect the election so so what?

We are already finding out that the cyber games Russia was involved in were much more sophisticated than was thought to be the case, we will find out it went even deeper than that. And the right has already been conditioned to say so what, who cares?

Obama was one step away from declaring war with Russia, cyber warfare. He threatened Putin openly with leaking the whereabouts of tens of billions of dollars he had stolen from the Russian people. And Trump steps into this degree of threat with warm and fuzzy good feelings for his friend Putin. This should make anyone who cares about this country feel a little bit freaked out.

I would feel a whole lot better about Trump if he just backed the hell off of the Putin friendship thing. He has no reason to meet with Putin, there isn't a thing he needs to say between these countries that can't be said in open meetings. Diplomatic relations are done with witnesses for a reason, and it's so that there can never be a question that the president is doing anything he isn't supposed to be doing.

fullspinzoo

woodguru wrote:

You forget something key to this. The "secret memo" simply widened the scope of things that could be involved in the task at hand.

Here's the most important fact of all. If Trump had nothing to do with any contacts with Russia throughout the campaign, he has nothing to worry about.

We know beyond any shadow of a doubt that Trump's campaign staff was full of people who had been dealing with Russians for many years. They were money and influence brokers, their brands of consulting had to do with brokering influence and sales, and money laundering in some cases. They were conducting business like this in ways that were not above board in that they were intentionally not being open about their businesses. They were often taking large sums of cash and not paying taxes on it. All of this activity has a paper trail, and when these players go through convoluted shell companies designed to hide money it's that much more incriminating.

If Trump is innocent, if he had no knowledge of people he was involved with being involved in Russian cyber influence, then it will be shown he is innocent. If those in his campaign and transition were, it unfortunately rubs off on Trump. Trump's campaign and transition is Trump, the election is Trump.

Pay attention to facts. The FBI knows that Flynn called his Russian big wig contact as Trump was being inaugurated, assuring him that the sanctions would be lifted. The administration made it clear that job one was lifting sanctions and giving Russia back their two spy compounds Obama had taken away. The first day of office the GOP lifted the requirement that US corporations disclose any money transferred to foreign interests, thereby allowing Exxon to proceed with giving Putin $500 Billion for their oil deal.

Nothing has been done to crank down security on state computers we know were hacked, efforts that were underway were defunded and stopped....

This is keeping America safe? No problem with Russia interfering in elections as long as they support Republicans? Hey, we know they were active in cyber influence, but hey, it didn't affect the election so so what?

We are already finding out that the cyber games Russia was involved in were much more sophisticated than was thought to be the case, we will find out it went even deeper than that. And the right has already been conditioned to say so what, who cares?

Obama was one step away from declaring war with Russia, cyber warfare. He threatened Putin openly with leaking the whereabouts of tens of billions of dollars he had stolen from the Russian people. And Trump steps into this degree of threat with warm and fuzzy good feelings for his friend Putin. This should make anyone who cares about this country feel a little bit freaked out.

I would feel a whole lot better about Trump if he just backed the hell off of the Putin friendship thing. He has no reason to meet with Putin, there isn't a thing he needs to say between these countries that can't be said in open meetings. Diplomatic relations are done with witnesses for a reason, and it's so that there can never be a question that the president is doing anything he isn't supposed to be doing.

You forget something key to this. The "secret... (show quote)

Well, you guys haven't found anything in the last year. You expect something in the next year? Your argument is such trash. How would you like it if some highway patrolman followed you around everywhere you went waiting for you to go five or ten over the limit. Hey, you have nothing to worry about, but you better keep your eye on that speedometer. Or how would you like somebody looking over your shoulder at work for the next four years? Let be honest, you wouldn't like it.

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

bahmer wrote:

He only recused himself of the Trump Russian collusion part not the rest of it. Mueller is investigating Trump's business dealings from years ago and that is not what Sessions recused himself from therefor he should step in and tell Rosenstein to tell Mueller to cease and desist or be fired.

That is a major point that the left chooses to ignore, they instead pretend that Session had recused himself from ALL business deals and, according many leftists includes any of the normal parts of his job description.

bahmer

no propaganda please wrote:

That is a major point that the left chooses to ignore, they instead pretend that Session had recused himself from ALL business deals and, according many leftists includes any of the normal parts of his job description.

Well somebody better light a fire under his ass or Trump may well fire his ass and put someone in office that will fire Rosenstein.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

bahmer wrote:

He only recused himself of the Trump Russian collusion part not the rest of it. Mueller is investigating Trump's business dealings from years ago and that is not what Sessions recused himself from therefor he should step in and tell Rosenstein to tell Mueller to cease and desist or be fired.

Rosenstein is probably the worst operative in the entire Trump administration.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

You may be the most obvious troll on this site. Hint; it’s not supposed to be that obvious.

woodguru wrote:

You forget something key to this. The "secret memo" simply widened the scope of things that could be involved in the task at hand.

Here's the most important fact of all. If Trump had nothing to do with any contacts with Russia throughout the campaign, he has nothing to worry about.

We know beyond any shadow of a doubt that Trump's campaign staff was full of people who had been dealing with Russians for many years. They were money and influence brokers, their brands of consulting had to do with brokering influence and sales, and money laundering in some cases. They were conducting business like this in ways that were not above board in that they were intentionally not being open about their businesses. They were often taking large sums of cash and not paying taxes on it. All of this activity has a paper trail, and when these players go through convoluted shell companies designed to hide money it's that much more incriminating.

If Trump is innocent, if he had no knowledge of people he was involved with being involved in Russian cyber influence, then it will be shown he is innocent. If those in his campaign and transition were, it unfortunately rubs off on Trump. Trump's campaign and transition is Trump, the election is Trump.

Pay attention to facts. The FBI knows that Flynn called his Russian big wig contact as Trump was being inaugurated, assuring him that the sanctions would be lifted. The administration made it clear that job one was lifting sanctions and giving Russia back their two spy compounds Obama had taken away. The first day of office the GOP lifted the requirement that US corporations disclose any money transferred to foreign interests, thereby allowing Exxon to proceed with giving Putin $500 Billion for their oil deal.

Nothing has been done to crank down security on state computers we know were hacked, efforts that were underway were defunded and stopped....

This is keeping America safe? No problem with Russia interfering in elections as long as they support Republicans? Hey, we know they were active in cyber influence, but hey, it didn't affect the election so so what?

We are already finding out that the cyber games Russia was involved in were much more sophisticated than was thought to be the case, we will find out it went even deeper than that. And the right has already been conditioned to say so what, who cares?

Obama was one step away from declaring war with Russia, cyber warfare. He threatened Putin openly with leaking the whereabouts of tens of billions of dollars he had stolen from the Russian people. And Trump steps into this degree of threat with warm and fuzzy good feelings for his friend Putin. This should make anyone who cares about this country feel a little bit freaked out.

I would feel a whole lot better about Trump if he just backed the hell off of the Putin friendship thing. He has no reason to meet with Putin, there isn't a thing he needs to say between these countries that can't be said in open meetings. Diplomatic relations are done with witnesses for a reason, and it's so that there can never be a question that the president is doing anything he isn't supposed to be doing.

You forget something key to this. The "secret... (show quote)

woodguru

bahmer wrote:

Sessions needs to step in and put the brakes to this nonsense or he is going to be in hot water himself. He really needs to fire Rosenstein that's what should happen.

Sessions can't be seen having anything to do with obstructing this. This investigation is going to come to a conclusion or someone will be impeached or indicted for obstruction, the jury is still out on whether firing Comey was obstruction. Trump went on the public record twice saying he did it to make the Russia thing go away. It's a hard case to defend when Trump admitted it.