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Apr 2, 2018 13:07:03   #
mactheknife
 
permafrost wrote:
The problem is that he tied it to we the people paying for his wall..

so that was not even close to an honest offer, was it..


Boy, you are pretty thick. Cutting down on the human trafficking and drugs will cost Mexico many billions of dollars, so that they will pay for the wall in their lost drug revenue (probably > $100 billion/year) and we will gain by not having to support all of the illegal aliens with welfare, schools, hospitals, etc. Go on line (CIS.org) and see what that costs (> $100 billion/year) and then get back to us with what you find, if you are brave enough to do so. The cost of the wall ($25 billion) pales in comparison. The reason that the Dems don't want the wall is that they see all of the illegal aliens as Democratic voters. In other words they are trading the heritage of this nation for their future political gain, but it is not theirs to trade. That is why they (drugsdealers, illegal immigrants and their Democratic supporters) must be stopped. You on the left should be ashamed of that and to many it is nothing short of traitorous.

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Apr 2, 2018 13:10:46   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
permafrost wrote:
The problem is that he tied it to we the people paying for his wall..

so that was not even close to an honest offer, was it..


This bears repeating, perma
I wasn't in the mood to straighten you out. Thanks, mactheknife

"Boy, you are pretty thick. Cutting down on the human trafficking and drugs will cost Mexico many billions of dollars, so that they will pay for the wall in their lost drug revenue (probably > $100 billion/year) and we will gain by not having to support all of the illegal aliens with welfare, schools, hospitals, etc. Go on line (CIS.org) and see what that costs (> $100 billion/year) and then get back to us with what you find, if you are brave enough to do so. The cost of the wall ($25 billion) pales in comparison. The reason that the Dems don't want the wall is that they see all of the illegal aliens as Democratic voters. In other words they are trading the heritage of this nation for their future political gain, but it is not theirs to trade. That is why they (drugsdealers, illegal immigrants and their Democratic supporters) must be stopped. You on the left should be ashamed of that and to many it is nothing short of traitorous." - mactheknife

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Apr 2, 2018 14:54:39   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
mactheknife wrote:
Boy, you are pretty thick. Cutting down on the human trafficking and drugs will cost Mexico many billions of dollars, so that they will pay for the wall in their lost drug revenue (probably > $100 billion/year) and we will gain by not having to support all of the illegal aliens with welfare, schools, hospitals, etc. Go on line (CIS.org) and see what that costs (> $100 billion/year) and then get back to us with what you find, if you are brave enough to do so. The cost of the wall ($25 billion) pales in comparison. The reason that the Dems don't want the wall is that they see all of the illegal aliens as Democratic voters. In other words they are trading the heritage of this nation for their future political gain, but it is not theirs to trade. That is why they (drugsdealers, illegal immigrants and their Democratic supporters) must be stopped. You on the left should be ashamed of that and to many it is nothing short of traitorous.
Boy, you are pretty thick. Cutting down on the hu... (show quote)



You are nothing but an echo chamber..

the estimated cost of illegals is all over the charts, from you unbelievable high to other unbelievable low..

You also seem to think the wall would reduce those cost to zero by complactly shutting down illegal immigration.. not even close..

The was would be very ineffective..

Illegals do not vote. No matter what your orange dummy says, they do not..

what is really puzzling, you say that mexico would lose billions from no drug trafficking and human trafficking..

Even if this were true, which it is not.. How would that money make its way to pay for the wall???

The orange turd has gone from promising mexico would pay for the wall, to US tax payers need to pay for the wall, to the defense dept should pay for the wall..

None of these things are going to happen..



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Apr 2, 2018 14:55:16   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
eagleye13 wrote:
This bears repeating, perma
I wasn't in the mood to straighten you out. Thanks, mactheknife

"Boy, you are pretty thick. Cutting down on the human trafficking and drugs will cost Mexico many billions of dollars, so that they will pay for the wall in their lost drug revenue (probably > $100 billion/year) and we will gain by not having to support all of the illegal aliens with welfare, schools, hospitals, etc. Go on line (CIS.org) and see what that costs (> $100 billion/year) and then get back to us with what you find, if you are brave enough to do so. The cost of the wall ($25 billion) pales in comparison. The reason that the Dems don't want the wall is that they see all of the illegal aliens as Democratic voters. In other words they are trading the heritage of this nation for their future political gain, but it is not theirs to trade. That is why they (drugsdealers, illegal immigrants and their Democratic supporters) must be stopped. You on the left should be ashamed of that and to many it is nothing short of traitorous." - mactheknife
This bears repeating, perma br I wasn't in the moo... (show quote)




Read my reply and think a little bit...

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Apr 2, 2018 15:05:02   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
permafrost wrote:
You are nothing but an echo chamber..

the estimated cost of illegals is all over the charts, from you unbelievable high to other unbelievable low..

You also seem to think the wall would reduce those cost to zero by complactly shutting down illegal immigration.. not even close..

The was would be very ineffective..

Illegals do not vote. No matter what your orange dummy says, they do not..

what is really puzzling, you say that mexico would lose billions from no drug trafficking and human trafficking..

Even if this were true, which it is not.. How would that money make its way to pay for the wall???

The orange turd has gone from promising mexico would pay for the wall, to US tax payers need to pay for the wall, to the defense dept should pay for the wall..

None of these things are going to happen..
You are nothing but an echo chamber.. br br the... (show quote)


I am not one of those people who is embarrassed by Trump being our President? I would be very embarrassed if the Witch of Chappaqua had won that election. The fact that lead to that would have embarrassed me to no end.

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Apr 2, 2018 15:35:42   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
oldroy wrote:
I am not one of those people who is embarrassed by Trump being our President? I would be very embarrassed if the Witch of Chappaqua had won that election. The fact that lead to that would have embarrassed me to no end.


Who here gives a damn if Mexico pays for the wall!?????

We need the wall more than ever ASAP to stop the illegal immigration.
We know the Dems need the votes;
but America needs the wall/technology/personnel to guard the border, before we become another mess like in Europe.

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Apr 2, 2018 16:02:54   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
permafrost wrote:
LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Never any change in your fears... when you find a link post it for me..


"LOLOLOLOLOLOL Never any change in your fears... when you find a link post it for me.."
On the news last night. You didn't catch it? I wonder why?
Republic Broadcasting Network: http://republicbroadcasting.org/

Thanks for asking perm;

Huge Caravan” Of Central American Refugees Is Headed For The U.S. Border “
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-31/huge-caravan-central-americans-headed-us-border-hopes-asylum
http://i2.wp.com/www.blacklistednews.com/images/news/sub-buzz-8514-1522376172-5_0.jpg?zoom=1.25&w=432&ssl=1
Over 1,500 Central Americans are on a crusade across Mexico in the hopes of being granted asylum at the U.S. border – a move which is set to pose an enormous challenge to the Trump administration’s much campaigned about immigration policies, while reminding Trump’s base that they still don’t have the wall they elected him to build 14 months into his presidency.
“We want to become one, supporting us shoulder to shoulder and show that together we can break down borders,” say the caravan’s organizers.
Setting out six days ago and marching under the slogan “Migrantes en la lucha” (“Migrants in the Fight”) during holy week, the caravan comprised mostly of Hondurans was organized roughly a month ago by the mysterious group Pueblo Sin Fronteras (People Without Borders) – which solicited donations via Facebook and encouraged volunteers to contact them.
”Our mission is to provide shelter and safety to migrants and refugees in transit, accompany them in their journey, and together demand respect for our human rights,” reads the group’s mission statement.
The Central American migrants, mostly Hondurans and Guatemalans, flee their countries because of insecurity and because they are threatened by gang members, also because of the economic and political situation in the region. –proceso.hn (translated)
“The crime rate is horrible, you can’t live there,” a migrant named “Karen” told BuzzFeed News on the side of a highway near the Southern Mexico town of Huixtla. “After the president [was sworn in] it got worse. There were deaths, mobs, robbed homes, adults and kids were beaten up.”
“They want to reach the border and ask for asylum, the majority flee from gang violence, extortion and police abuses,” says one of the organizers named Garibo.

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Apr 2, 2018 16:16:55   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"LOLOLOLOLOLOL Never any change in your fears... when you find a link post it for me.."
On the news last night. You didn't catch it? I wonder why?
Republic Broadcasting Network: http://republicbroadcasting.org/

Thanks for asking perm;

Huge Caravan” Of Central American Refugees Is Headed For The U.S. Border “
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-31/huge-caravan-central-americans-headed-us-border-hopes-asylum
http://i2.wp.com/www.blacklistednews.com/images/news/sub-buzz-8514-1522376172-5_0.jpg?zoom=1.25&w=432&ssl=1
Over 1,500 Central Americans are on a crusade across Mexico in the hopes of being granted asylum at the U.S. border – a move which is set to pose an enormous challenge to the Trump administration’s much campaigned about immigration policies, while reminding Trump’s base that they still don’t have the wall they elected him to build 14 months into his presidency.
“We want to become one, supporting us shoulder to shoulder and show that together we can break down borders,” say the caravan’s organizers.
Setting out six days ago and marching under the slogan “Migrantes en la lucha” (“Migrants in the Fight”) during holy week, the caravan comprised mostly of Hondurans was organized roughly a month ago by the mysterious group Pueblo Sin Fronteras (People Without Borders) – which solicited donations via Facebook and encouraged volunteers to contact them.
”Our mission is to provide shelter and safety to migrants and refugees in transit, accompany them in their journey, and together demand respect for our human rights,” reads the group’s mission statement.
The Central American migrants, mostly Hondurans and Guatemalans, flee their countries because of insecurity and because they are threatened by gang members, also because of the economic and political situation in the region. –proceso.hn (translated)
“The crime rate is horrible, you can’t live there,” a migrant named “Karen” told BuzzFeed News on the side of a highway near the Southern Mexico town of Huixtla. “After the president [was sworn in] it got worse. There were deaths, mobs, robbed homes, adults and kids were beaten up.”
“They want to reach the border and ask for asylum, the majority flee from gang violence, extortion and police abuses,” says one of the organizers named Garibo.
"LOLOLOLOLOLOL Never any change in your fear... (show quote)



You guys reported last year that Mexico built a wall on their southern border..

If walls work so well, and Mexico is so hard on non-nationals, How did all these central americans who are filling these caravans, get into Mexico??

Are you saying the southern wall did not work???



Mexico deported more than 76,000 Central Americans last year, according to government statistics. The majority -- more than 35,000 -- were returned to Guatemala.

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Apr 2, 2018 16:25:01   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
permafrost wrote:
You guys reported last year that Mexico built a wall on their southern border..

If walls work so well, and Mexico is so hard on non-nationals, How did all these central americans who are filling these caravans, get into Mexico??

Are you saying the southern wall did not work???



Mexico deported more than 76,000 Central Americans last year, according to government statistics. The majority -- more than 35,000 -- were returned to Guatemala.


You tell us why the wall is not working oh astute one.
Do you think the USA should depend on Mexico's border protection abilities?

Getting back to the subject at hand;

"LOLOLOLOLOLOL Never any change in your fears... when you find a link post it for me.."
On the news last night. You didn't catch it? I wonder why?
Republic Broadcasting Network: http://republicbroadcasting.org/

Thanks for asking perm;

Huge Caravan” Of Central American Refugees Is Headed For The U.S. Border “
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-31/huge-caravan-central-americans-headed-us-border-hopes-asylum
http://i2.wp.com/www.blacklistednews.com/images/news/sub-buzz-8514-1522376172-5_0.jpg?zoom=1.25&w=432&ssl=1
Over 1,500 Central Americans are on a crusade across Mexico in the hopes of being granted asylum at the U.S. border – a move which is set to pose an enormous challenge to the Trump administration’s much campaigned about immigration policies, while reminding Trump’s base that they still don’t have the wall they elected him to build 14 months into his presidency.
“We want to become one, supporting us shoulder to shoulder and show that together we can break down borders,” say the caravan’s organizers.
Setting out six days ago and marching under the slogan “Migrantes en la lucha” (“Migrants in the Fight”) during holy week, the caravan comprised mostly of Hondurans was organized roughly a month ago by the mysterious group Pueblo Sin Fronteras (People Without Borders) – which solicited donations via Facebook and encouraged volunteers to contact them.
”Our mission is to provide shelter and safety to migrants and refugees in transit, accompany them in their journey, and together demand respect for our human rights,” reads the group’s mission statement.
The Central American migrants, mostly Hondurans and Guatemalans, flee their countries because of insecurity and because they are threatened by gang members, also because of the economic and political situation in the region. –proceso.hn (translated)
“The crime rate is horrible, you can’t live there,” a migrant named “Karen” told BuzzFeed News on the side of a highway near the Southern Mexico town of Huixtla. “After the president [was sworn in] it got worse. There were deaths, mobs, robbed homes, adults and kids were beaten up.”
“They want to reach the border and ask for asylum, the majority flee from gang violence, extortion and police abuses,” says one of the organizers named Garibo.

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Apr 2, 2018 17:21:51   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
eagleye13 wrote:
You tell us why the wall is not working oh astute one.
Do you think the USA should depend on Mexico's border protection abilities?

Getting back to the subject at hand;

"LOLOLOLOLOLOL Never any change in your fears... when you find a link post it for me.."
On the news last night. You didn't catch it? I wonder why?
Republic Broadcasting Network: http://republicbroadcasting.org/

Thanks for asking perm;

Huge Caravan” Of Central American Refugees Is Headed For The U.S. Border “
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-31/huge-caravan-central-americans-headed-us-border-hopes-asylum
http://i2.wp.com/www.blacklistednews.com/images/news/sub-buzz-8514-1522376172-5_0.jpg?zoom=1.25&w=432&ssl=1
Over 1,500 Central Americans are on a crusade across Mexico in the hopes of being granted asylum at the U.S. border – a move which is set to pose an enormous challenge to the Trump administration’s much campaigned about immigration policies, while reminding Trump’s base that they still don’t have the wall they elected him to build 14 months into his presidency.
“We want to become one, supporting us shoulder to shoulder and show that together we can break down borders,” say the caravan’s organizers.
Setting out six days ago and marching under the slogan “Migrantes en la lucha” (“Migrants in the Fight”) during holy week, the caravan comprised mostly of Hondurans was organized roughly a month ago by the mysterious group Pueblo Sin Fronteras (People Without Borders) – which solicited donations via Facebook and encouraged volunteers to contact them.
”Our mission is to provide shelter and safety to migrants and refugees in transit, accompany them in their journey, and together demand respect for our human rights,” reads the group’s mission statement.
The Central American migrants, mostly Hondurans and Guatemalans, flee their countries because of insecurity and because they are threatened by gang members, also because of the economic and political situation in the region. –proceso.hn (translated)
“The crime rate is horrible, you can’t live there,” a migrant named “Karen” told BuzzFeed News on the side of a highway near the Southern Mexico town of Huixtla. “After the president [was sworn in] it got worse. There were deaths, mobs, robbed homes, adults and kids were beaten up.”
“They want to reach the border and ask for asylum, the majority flee from gang violence, extortion and police abuses,” says one of the organizers named Garibo.
You tell us why the wall is not working oh astute ... (show quote)




Not sure, are you saying I did not see this caravan thing?? It was on CNN and Some network gave it a mention..

I would think the performance of a wall at the south end of Mexico would be a better indicator of performance then the chatter from the orange dunce tweeter account..

Why do you wish to toss money down the drain on the dumb wall??

More personnel and more equipment will be much more effective..

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Apr 2, 2018 20:51:18   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
permafrost wrote:
Not sure, are you saying I did not see this caravan thing?? It was on CNN and Some network gave it a mention..

I would think the performance of a wall at the south end of Mexico would be a better indicator of performance then the chatter from the orange dunce tweeter account..

Why do you wish to toss money down the drain on the dumb wall??

More personnel and more equipment will be much more effective..


"Why do you wish to toss money down the drain on the dumb wall??" - perma?
Your opinion.

DO IT ALL.

Use our troops here to protect out own border.
House them here, to spend here, instead of around the world to protect other borders.

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Apr 2, 2018 21:41:49   #
kankune Loc: Iowa
 
permafrost wrote:
The problem is that he tied it to we the people paying for his wall..

so that was not even close to an honest offer, was it..


AFTER ALL the money the government has screwed the taxpayers out of and all the illegal immigrants WE'VE been supporting for years, I would gladly kick in and help pay for the wall. BUILD THE DAMN WALL!!!

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Apr 2, 2018 21:44:37   #
kankune Loc: Iowa
 
permafrost wrote:
LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Never any change in your fears... when you find a link post it for me..


It's not a fear Perm. They're are heading up this way to our southern border seeking amnesty. 1100 so far.....no I'm not providing a link. Please look it up...

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Apr 2, 2018 22:36:18   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
kankune wrote:
It's not a fear Perm. They're are heading up this way to our southern border seeking amnesty. 1100 so far.....no I'm not providing a link. Please look it up...


The link.
Huge Caravan” Of Central American Refugees Is Headed For The U.S. Border “
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-31/huge-caravan-central-americans-headed-us-border-hopes-asylum
http://i2.wp.com/www.blacklistednews.com/images/news/sub-buzz-8514-1522376172-5_0.jpg?zoom=1.25&w=432&ssl=1

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Apr 3, 2018 08:49:15   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"Why do you wish to toss money down the drain on the dumb wall??" - perma?
Your opinion.

DO IT ALL.

Use our troops here to protect out own border.
House them here, to spend here, instead of around the world to protect other borders.




I think that have our troops on our border would be a better idea then sending them to other borders.. Yes, I think so..

One problem is that by law the military can not do that.. Texas called out the NG a few years ago and the state had to pay for them.. Under Perry, I think that was..

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