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Mar 30, 2018 15:22:14   #
mactheknife
 
proud republican wrote:
Im with you,Mac.. im an immigrant ..Legal immigrant from Russia...Came here in 1979....I believe most Americans have no fricking idea what its like to live in a communist country!!!....And members of Congress that want our wonderful country to become socialist=communist country need to be deported to countries like Venezuela so they know what life in communist country feels like!!!


Right on, my views exactly. Many of our fellow citizens are ignorant of the greater world. I was in Russia just before and then just after the collapse of communism. I did not see anyone smiling before the collapse, but afterwards, people were celebrating in the streets. Maybe I'll be accused of "collusion"?

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Mar 30, 2018 15:38:31   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
mactheknife wrote:
Right on, my views exactly. Many of our fellow citizens are ignorant of the greater world. I was in Russia just before and then just after the collapse of communism. I did not see anyone smiling before the collapse, but afterwards, people were celebrating in the streets. Maybe I'll be accused of "collusion"?


LOL You and me both,Mac

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Mar 30, 2018 15:42:06   #
mactheknife
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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I dont give a RATS Ass, none of them should ever have come here which is taking up the class space and assistance away from our American Citizens of the Land...

You WiLL LOSE every position of this argument Mac

NO DEAL
GAME OVER I dont care who slices it and how they try to justify it...

It’s cooked and it’s over


I don't think that I'll lose this one, Sicilianthing, as the US education system has been unable to produce enough graduates in the scientific and engineering disciplines, particularly at the Ph.D. level, to fill the available positions. Just go and look at the faculty of universities and see where the faculty have come from. Legal immigration in these fields has paid huge dividends to our country and will continue to do so. You seem to want to "throw the baby out with the bathwater"; not a good idea

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Mar 30, 2018 16:34:18   #
Sicilianthing
 
mactheknife wrote:
I don't think that I'll lose this one, Sicilianthing, as the US education system has been unable to produce enough graduates in the scientific and engineering disciplines, particularly at the Ph.D. level, to fill the available positions. Just go and look at the faculty of universities and see where the faculty have come from. Legal immigration in these fields has paid huge dividends to our country and will continue to do so. You seem to want to "throw the baby out with the bathwater"; not a good idea
I don't think that I'll lose this one, Sicilianthi... (show quote)


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That’s all bullshit, they’ve got you bamboozled too.

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Mar 30, 2018 16:37:19   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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That’s all bullshit, they’ve got you bamboozled too.


Let me ask you this..Do you think that people who came here legally, learned the language,contributed to society have the right to be here???

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Mar 30, 2018 16:52:11   #
Sicilianthing
 
proud republican wrote:
Let me ask you this..Do you think that people who came here legally, learned the language,contributed to society have the right to be here???


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Some yes
and many NO
because they don’t assimilate and contributed mostly wreckage...

Staying on subject though this is about Americans getting the Jobs not Foreigner anymore.

Alarm bells are going off all around you guys 24/7 and now Trump Mistake #5 signs the Criminal Bill which opens the doors wide open for more Workers to come in and

Super Compete against our own for good paying jobs.

I’m not buying it ever again.

We will move the Patriot Groups one step forward toward escalations and confrontations of those involved with policy shaping like this.

You don’t see the encroachments and the ongoing damage caused.

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Mar 30, 2018 16:58:25   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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Some yes
and many NO
because they don’t assimilate and contributed mostly wreckage...

Staying on subject though this is about Americans getting the Jobs not Foreigner anymore.

Alarm bells are going off all around you guys 24/7 and now Trump Mistake #5 signs the Criminal Bill which opens the doors wide open for more Workers to come in and

Super Compete against our own for good paying jobs.

I’m not buying it ever again.

We will move the Patriot Groups one step forward toward escalations and confrontations of those involved with policy shaping like this.

You don’t see the encroachments and the ongoing damage caused.
>>>> br br Some yes br and many NO ... (show quote)


Sorry,but you waaay waay to the right for me to answer to you anymore....If you think that people who are here legally, paying taxes learned English and did assimilated into American culture have no right to work just like native Americans,then we really have nothing to talk about....Sad!!!

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Mar 30, 2018 17:17:12   #
Sicilianthing
 
proud republican wrote:
Sorry,but you waaay waay to the right for me to answer to you anymore....If you think that people who are here legally, paying taxes learned English and did assimilated into American culture have no right to work just like native Americans,then we really have nothing to talk about....Sad!!!


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My ancestors in every generation fought in every war since the Whisky Rebellion on Record and Roster...
Many have died... we continue to serve a Fraud Imposter Foreign Interest Gov’t to this day who will murder you and me just the same...

I dont’ have the time to bring you fast forward past to present on how all this came to be and why we are in serious serious trouble unlike anytime since this Nation began.

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Mar 30, 2018 17:35:32   #
mactheknife
 
proud republican wrote:
Let me ask you this..Do you think that people who came here legally, learned the language,contributed to society have the right to be here???


Of course, I'm one of them. I have paid a lot of taxes and supported a lot of people in the 41 years that I have been here. It is the illegal immigrant that I have an issue with and it comes down to whether we are a nation of laws, as envisioned by the founding fathers. It is really as simple as that. If we don't obey the laws, as is the want of the left, then we will have chaos and anarchy and we all will lose big time. Just imagine the US as is Cuba or Venezuela and that is what you will have. Attractive, huh?

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Mar 30, 2018 18:28:27   #
maryjane
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
IMMIGRANTS DO JOBS AMERICANS WON’T DO: BALDERDASH
By Frosty Wooldridge

One of the many refrains you hear from main stream media outlets concerning endless legal and illegal immigration: “They do the jobs that Americans won’t do.”

Such ridiculous statements need a factual response. Such nonsense must be answered in order to dispel the myths promoted by corporations like Marriott Hotels, Hormel Foods, Vail Mountain Resorts, McDonald’s, Chipotle, Tyson Chicken, Holiday Inns, landscape businesses, construction firms, janitorial services and hundreds more.

Each year, our U.S. Congress legally imports 1.1 to 1.2 million legal immigrants from all over the world. That’s over 100,000 immigrants every 30 days! One reader, Melissa Brooker said, “You know that I liken the USA to an animal hoarder who takes in every homeless animal she sees, ending up with a filthy house filled with sick and dying beasts, and I ask if the US similarly has become the crazy cat lady of the world!”

To which I answered, “America cannot become the “charity ward” for the world’s desperately people because there’s no end to their line. We cannot degrade our citizens for Mexico’s poor. We cannot save Africa’s refugees when we suffer 14 million American children living in poverty. We cannot pay for immigrants’ food, housing and education when we’re $20 trillion in national debt. By deporting all illegal aliens, we may give those jobs to American citizens at a living wage. It’s time to change the ‘good ole boy’ network of corruption in DC by changing to an action leader like U.S. Senator Tom Cotton of Arkansas who introduced a bill to cut all immigration in half and secure the borders. We need to maintain our citizens and our viability as a civilization.”

If you visit any small town in America, you might notice that roofs get replaced, lawns get mowed, dishes get washed, houses get painted and everything that needs to be accomplished as to work—-local citizens do the labor.

Before Hormel Foods began importing truckloads of illegal aliens into their plants in Minnesota in the 1980s, men working those plants made $18.50 an hour back in those times. Good wages! But Hormel along with Tyson Chicken and McDonald’s executives openly broke our employment laws by bussing in illegals from Texas. They cut the wages to bare minimum and drove all the American workers out of jobs.

The same thing happened with every trade across the USA! Big corporations cheated the American people by importing 21st century slave labor. Not only did corporations and their stock holders make billions off that cheap labor, they made you pay for immigrants’ offspring, schooling, food stamps, housing, transportation and more. Not only that, you paid for ID forgeries, shoplifting at over $50 billion annually, $120 billion each year in cash transfers back to immigrants’ countries, FICA and Federal taxes.

When you hear, “If not for cheap illegal migrant labor, your tomatoes and lettuce would cost so much more.”

Again, balderdash! I’d really like to use the term bullsh*t, because that’s what they feed us with their excuses.

Because of breaking our laws as to employment, housing and transportation, you pay in excess of $296 billion annually across 15 federal agencies. (Source: www.CIS.org ; www.NumbersUSA.org)

Instead of $3.00 per tomato, you pay $2000.00 annually for other peoples’ kids to eat free breakfasts and lunches. If you look at that figure, you pay for over 2,000,000 (million) illegal kids to attend school at $8,000.00 annually, and $2,000.00 each child for English as a Second Language. As you can see, those tomatoes cost you a great deal more with illegal labor.

Ironically, only two (2) percent of immigrants work in agriculture. Modern engineering creates every kind of machine to plant, harvest and sort any and all crops. We see no need for people planting, picking or harvesting crops. If they do need workers, when you pay a living wage, workers will take the jobs. That’s a fact of the market place. There’s also H2A worker visas where they legally come to work, get taxed, and go back to their countries. Lawfully!

Do you understand why third world countries remain third world countries? Answer: corruption becomes a mechanism by which a society or country operates. That’s why Mexico and all third world countries fail and send us their human exhaust.

As corruption overtakes legal mercantile commerce, you move toward a tipping point in the direction a third world country. Once corruption imbeds itself into a civilization, it takes a revolution to change it. Do you want that in your community, state and nation? Do you see it manifesting in Mexico and other third world countries? Then why would you invite it into the USA?

Notice our U.S. Congress does nothing to stop immigration! They remain complicit in the corruption. Why? No term limits promotes deep corruption in our elected leaders. Why? Money!

Today, in the United States, we see corruption digging holes into all our cities. We see our own governors and mayors protecting illegal workers in 240 sanctuary cities. We see them aiding and abetting illegal migrants by the millions. We’re seeing our own leaders drive us into the arms of third world corruption.

Dr. Steven Camarota, assistant director at www.CIS.org, showed where 500,000 illegal migrants cross our borders annually. Somehow, they receive jobs. At the same time, we face 14,000,000 (million) American kids living below the poverty line because their parents cannot secure a job. We see five million unemployed Americans and over 40 million subsisting on food stamps. We see 60,000 Americans living in plastic tarp tents in Los Angeles with no help whatsoever from the mayor of governor of that sanctuary state. Ironically, California protects over three million illegal aliens within its borders. You see the same thing in Chicago, NYC, Miami, Denver, San Francisco and more.

If we continue down this legal and illegal immigration path of another projected 100,000,000 (million) legal immigrants and tens of millions more illegals—we will reach a tipping point into third world status in our cities, states and finally the nation.

Why? Because they won’t do the jobs Americans will do, but they will overrun our country to a point that it won’t be our country any longer.
IMMIGRANTS DO JOBS AMERICANS WON’T DO: BALDERDASH ... (show quote)

I agree completely, but all of it is the fault of our congresses for 30 years, and today's Congress. The corporations you mentioned would never have switched to foreign labor in pursuit of the almighty dollar without the total co-operation of Congress, both parties. Congress is too blame for all of our immigration issues today. They refuse to secure our southern border to prevent unwanted drugs and people from entering our nation. Not only do they refuse to stop illegals entering and refuse to even consider deportation of illegals already here, Congress, instead wants to give ALL of them ammesty and citizenship and continue that for all newcomers. Congress cares not a rip about what is happening to American citizens nor do they care one bit about the future America they are creating. If our leaders we elect to represent our nation and us refuse to do so, what are we to do? And voting simply is not sufficient any longer, in fact, poll results seem to change little if anything.

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Mar 30, 2018 19:22:28   #
Sicilianthing
 
maryjane wrote:
I agree completely, but all of it is the fault of our congresses for 30 years, and today's Congress. The corporations you mentioned would never have switched to foreign labor in pursuit of the almighty dollar without the total co-operation of Congress, both parties. Congress is too blame for all of our immigration issues today. They refuse to secure our southern border to prevent unwanted drugs and people from entering our nation. Not only do they refuse to stop illegals entering and refuse to even consider deportation of illegals already here, Congress, instead wants to give ALL of them ammesty and citizenship and continue that for all newcomers. Congress cares not a rip about what is happening to American citizens nor do they care one bit about the future America they are creating. If our leaders we elect to represent our nation and us refuse to do so, what are we to do? And voting simply is not sufficient any longer, in fact, poll results seem to change little if anything.
I agree completely, but all of it is the fault of ... (show quote)


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The Convention of States will Remove all of them from Offices back to their states.

ConventionofStates.com

Very scary Article V REBOOT of the Constitutional enforcements... it is a Prelude to Civil War I welcome sorta.

Guys like Paul Traitor Ryan
Mitch Obama’s Byatch McConnell
Schumer
Peloshit
All need to be arrested, tried, prosecuted and sentenced for Execution - Flat OUT !



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Mar 31, 2018 09:37:26   #
mactheknife
 
maryjane wrote:
I agree completely, but all of it is the fault of our congresses for 30 years, and today's Congress. The corporations you mentioned would never have switched to foreign labor in pursuit of the almighty dollar without the total co-operation of Congress, both parties. Congress is too blame for all of our immigration issues today. They refuse to secure our southern border to prevent unwanted drugs and people from entering our nation. Not only do they refuse to stop illegals entering and refuse to even consider deportation of illegals already here, Congress, instead wants to give ALL of them ammesty and citizenship and continue that for all newcomers. Congress cares not a rip about what is happening to American citizens nor do they care one bit about the future America they are creating. If our leaders we elect to represent our nation and us refuse to do so, what are we to do? And voting simply is not sufficient any longer, in fact, poll results seem to change little if anything.
I agree completely, but all of it is the fault of ... (show quote)


Then we need to change our politicians. I have always maintained that fixing the political, social, trade, defense, and foreign relations problems that we have can only be done by the voters at the ballot box. If the voters would use common sense, many of these problems would disappear. Take CA, for example, we are now seeing a backlash against Sanctuary Cities and I predict that the Democrats will lose big time in the next state elections. That same thing needs to happen across the country and I believe that it will.

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Mar 31, 2018 09:44:29   #
mactheknife
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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The Convention of States will Remove all of them from Offices back to their states.

ConventionofStates.com

Very scary Article V REBOOT of the Constitutional enforcements... it is a Prelude to Civil War I welcome sorta.

Guys like Paul Traitor Ryan
Mitch Obama’s Byatch McConnell
Schumer
Peloshit
All need to be arrested, tried, prosecuted and sentenced for Execution - Flat OUT !


Yes, a Convention of States would do the trick and I am an active supporter of that effort. However, it still has a long way to go.

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Mar 31, 2018 12:57:28   #
Sicilianthing
 
mactheknife wrote:
Yes, a Convention of States would do the trick and I am an active supporter of that effort. However, it still has a long way to go.


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I’m following it also but Soros is trying to hijack it.

It will most likely not be a Peaceful event.

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Mar 31, 2018 17:26:50   #
mactheknife
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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I’m following it also but Soros is trying to hijack it.

It will most likely not be a Peaceful event.


No, it may require armed supporters in the streets. Never underestimate the swamp to kill it. Because it is a constitutional fix, and because so many of our politicians ignore the constitution we will have to fight for this. Keep your powder dry!!!

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