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Mar 15, 2018 20:13:39   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
permafrost wrote:
And yet you have not a single example of this wonderful stuff your orange wonderkind is doing for this country. rather than himself and his RB friends..


The master of the non-sequitur! Try staying on topic, every one of your alleged responses is another item of cant from the progressive playbook.

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Mar 15, 2018 20:24:54   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
pafret wrote:
The master of the non-sequitur! Try staying on topic, every one of your alleged responses is another item of cant from the progressive playbook.




And yet you are the one no longer talking about civil war... which is so desired by the right wing dreamers..


So got nothing do yea...



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Mar 15, 2018 20:49:35   #
acknowledgeurma
 
pafret wrote:
You left-wingers believe the rest of the world is duped by your disavowal of violence and conflict, when evidence to the contrary is plainly visible. When you endorse and encourage Antifa, BLM, and student rioting as in Berkeley whenever Conservative speakers are scheduled to make an appearance, there is warfare. The hysterics evidenced by entertainment figures using a bully pulpit, to attack and ridicule Conservatives is warfare. Media of all sorts spew negative interpretations of each and every action, by any non-liberal, to the extent that such negative coverage is in excess of 90% opposed. Suppression of conservative thought in public forums is suppression of free speech and an auxiliary tactic in warfare. The totalitarian left has declared war on the Conservative half of the country, which disagrees with them.

The point being made in this post and its many comments is that war exists right now. Progressives are making an all out effort to subjugate and eliminate any contrary view just as any dictatorship does. The battle is being fought with words, policies created in board rooms, propaganda spewed by the media, concerted furor over every incident while keeping the causes concealed "for security purposes". While it is to be hoped there is no éminence grise involved in these actions they give the appearance of a concerted, directed, assault on one half the people by the other half. It should be remembered that the Bolsheviks were only a fraction of a small party, Mao's group was a drop in the bucket as were Hitler’s' Brown Shirts, and Mussolini's Black Shirts; all had far fewer adherents than the rabid progressive left.

As far as the danger in college professors, it is an adage that "The pen is mightier than the sword". They possess mighty weapons, they have the ability to indoctrinate and inculcate beliefs, in their charges, that are antithetical to freedom and the principles this nation was founded on. They do so to the extent of one college professor attempting to stifle a conservative's free speech was recorded calling "Get some muscle here".... when words failed the resort was to violence. It is these people who are the greatest danger to a free society. Instead of the Socratic method of demanding the student think for themselves they resort to propagandizing and brainwashing. These students then go on to be this nation's politicians and business leaders, while their heads are stuffed with progressive/socialistic nonsense and worse, an abiding hatred of any dissenting thought.

Armed conflict may ultimately occur although I do not believe it will. Officially there are about 300 million guns in this country; the reality is that there are closer to one billion guns available. No amount of gun control will ever prevent the American people from arming themselves, to resist oppression. It is that certain deterrent, which makes such a war unlikely. Conservatives are not, contrary to your assertion, itching for a war. However, should it come to that they will certainly give you one if you insist. Yours is the ideology of totalitarian control, ours is the ideology of limited government.

I know these words won't help you because you obviously didn't grasp the concept expositions in the prior posts or you rejected them without consideration. You offered only sneering words and criticism without rebuttal of a single point.
You left-wingers believe the rest of the world is ... (show quote)

You seem to have mistaken me for permafrost. I offered no sneering words. I was only trying to help you see the meaning (that you seemed blind to) that could be found in permafrost's words. But then, you seem (to me) to be blind to the meaning, of the words of so many folks. But perhaps you do see the meaning and (lacking principled rebuttal) spew calumny (like, "You have a severe disability").

As for my "ideology of totalitarian control", I try to be skeptical of all ideology.

And your "ideology of limited government", I sense is an ideology of disabled government.

And your loose use of the word war opens us to war's essential nature - killing.

You started your post with, "You left-wingers"; I be aggrieved. I think myself a bird with a long right wing as well as left, flying over the vast ocean of possibilities, ready to swoop down on fishy morsels and grow my fat middle.

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Mar 15, 2018 20:52:08   #
SGM B Loc: TEXAS but live in Alabama now
 
permafrost wrote:
When I think of the right wing nuts, tea part and conservatives.. I see the murder and assaults in Chancellorsville, the murder of church goers as they pray and the theft of our nations property and lands by the bundy and their henchmen..

The fact that all you guys do not like brown skin or the dress of foreign born and raised women bring to mind the taunts toward Polish neighbors and use of "old Country" language in half the homes of my school mates as a child...


Your willingness to give even more money and power to those people born to that silver spoon live at the expense of your fellow taxpayers and workers, brings the image of middle age Europe and the system of tribute which ran the western world for centuries..

When you toss mountain of money to the makers of war machines and cut the life lines to daily food for the old and infirm.. It bring images of stalogs and the slow death of dying invalids..
When I think of the right wing nuts, tea part and ... (show quote)


I'm not sure I have a clue what you are talking about, but I am sure you are fairly clueless. I have no problem with "brown skin", or black, or any other color - or how foreign born women, or men for that matter, dress. What I DO have a problem with is ANYONE who is in our country illegally - thus making them illegal aliens, period and I want them returned to their home country, yesterday would have not been too soon. If you are okay with these hordes of illegal aliens, maybe you will let them move in with you?
I personally am not okay with mountains of money to the makers of war machines and I'm not sure what you are referring to "cut life lined to daily food for the old and infirm", where are you seeing this? By the way, I'm disgusted with politicians of all stripes who ignore the poor children in the mountains of the East and Southeast who go to bed hungry nightly. I'm also fed up with asshole liberals who go on tv and rail against people like me who believe anchor babies, chain migration, DACA and the lottery are not good for our country. I firmly believe if you are here illegally and start waving your home country's flag - it's time for you to RETURN to said country. Do not think it is okay for you to sneak across our border, then try to turn our country into what you ran away from. In short, if these people, regardless of age are here illegally, deport them immediately - especially if they are convicted felons, or have been deported before and have returned.
I see these fuckin gang members, cruising the streets flashing their gang signs and it makes my blood boil. How did we get here??? By liberal, bleeding heart progressives allowing it and having a hissy fit if anyone tries to stop it. Howls of bigot and cries of racist will stop most folks in their tracks. They can't stand being called racist and liberals like you and others know average people who are not racist do not want to be called racist. Well, I don't care! If I'm a racist because I don't want illegal aliens in my country, or people who have no respect for our Constitution, then so be it.
Oh by the way, what the hell is "Old Country language"?

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Mar 16, 2018 00:20:08   #
goofball Loc: timbucktoo
 
permafrost wrote:
When I think of the right wing nuts, tea part and conservatives.. I see the murder and assaults in Chancellorsville, the murder of church goers as they pray and the theft of our nations property and lands by the bundy and their henchmen..

The fact that all you guys do not like brown skin or the dress of foreign born and raised women bring to mind the taunts toward Polish neighbors and use of "old Country" language in half the homes of my school mates as a child...


Your willingness to give even more money and power to those people born to that silver spoon live at the expense of your fellow taxpayers and workers, brings the image of middle age Europe and the system of tribute which ran the western world for centuries..

When you toss mountain of money to the makers of war machines and cut the life lines to daily food for the old and infirm.. It bring images of stalogs and the slow death of dying invalids..
When I think of the right wing nuts, tea part and ... (show quote)

Wasted money!

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Mar 16, 2018 09:52:23   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
SGM B wrote:
I'm not sure I have a clue what you are talking about, but I am sure you are fairly clueless. I have no problem with "brown skin", or black, or any other color - or how foreign born women, or men for that matter, dress. What I DO have a problem with is ANYONE who is in our country illegally - thus making them illegal aliens, period and I want them returned to their home country, yesterday would have not been too soon. If you are okay with these hordes of illegal aliens, maybe you will let them move in with you?
I personally am not okay with mountains of money to the makers of war machines and I'm not sure what you are referring to "cut life lined to daily food for the old and infirm", where are you seeing this? By the way, I'm disgusted with politicians of all stripes who ignore the poor children in the mountains of the East and Southeast who go to bed hungry nightly. I'm also fed up with asshole liberals who go on tv and rail against people like me who believe anchor babies, chain migration, DACA and the lottery are not good for our country. I firmly believe if you are here illegally and start waving your home country's flag - it's time for you to RETURN to said country. Do not think it is okay for you to sneak across our border, then try to turn our country into what you ran away from. In short, if these people, regardless of age are here illegally, deport them immediately - especially if they are convicted felons, or have been deported before and have returned.
I see these fuckin gang members, cruising the streets flashing their gang signs and it makes my blood boil. How did we get here??? By liberal, bleeding heart progressives allowing it and having a hissy fit if anyone tries to stop it. Howls of bigot and cries of racist will stop most folks in their tracks. They can't stand being called racist and liberals like you and others know average people who are not racist do not want to be called racist. Well, I don't care! If I'm a racist because I don't want illegal aliens in my country, or people who have no respect for our Constitution, then so be it.
Oh by the way, what the hell is "Old Country language"?
I'm not sure I have a clue what you are talking ab... (show quote)




LOL...... Yes we are far beyond understanding...

Old Country Language..... That is the term for nearly all people who came to the United States.. They came from the "old country" Poland, Norway, Italy, Finland, Germany... where ever.

And a great many of these people use the old country language in their home.. At least some of the time if not most of the time..

And yes that included my home, not only the homes of others.. At one time, I could speak Norwegian as well as English.. No longer..

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Mar 16, 2018 20:13:08   #
SGM B Loc: TEXAS but live in Alabama now
 
permafrost wrote:
LOL...... Yes we are far beyond understanding...

Old Country Language..... That is the term for nearly all people who came to the United States.. They came from the "old country" Poland, Norway, Italy, Finland, Germany... where ever.

And a great many of these people use the old country language in their home.. At least some of the time if not most of the time..

And yes that included my home, not only the homes of others.. At one time, I could speak Norwegian as well as English.. No longer..
LOL...... Yes we are far beyond understanding... ... (show quote)


Oh, thanks! Half of my heritage didn't immigrate from anywhere as far as I know, other than Carolinas (Cherokee) - the other half...Ireland and ???
I'd like to learn another language but I have enough trouble with English. LOL!

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Mar 16, 2018 20:33:19   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
SGM B wrote:
Oh, thanks! Half of my heritage didn't immigrate from anywhere as far as I know, other than Carolinas (Cherokee) - the other half...Ireland and ???
I'd like to learn another language but I have enough trouble with English. LOL!


Cherokee... Learn that, wow that would be so nice to show off..

I am no good at learning other languages.. forgetting what I once knew is all I can do now...

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Mar 16, 2018 20:52:48   #
SGM B Loc: TEXAS but live in Alabama now
 
permafrost wrote:
Cherokee... Learn that, wow that would be so nice to show off..

I am no good at learning other languages.. forgetting what I once knew is all I can do now...


Too old and set in my ways. :(

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Mar 16, 2018 21:57:01   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
SGM B wrote:
Too old and set in my ways. :(
I think I'm older than you, and you never get set
in yer ways if the correct info is presented to you...IE:My photos have been removed from this site
because I block advert tracking scripts.

That being said, Sooner or Later I will be living in a Wild West TX Ghost Town

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Mar 16, 2018 22:34:23   #
acknowledgeurma
 
SGM B wrote:
Oh, thanks! Half of my heritage didn't immigrate from anywhere as far as I know, other than Carolinas (Cherokee) - the other half...Ireland and ???
I'd like to learn another language but I have enough trouble with English. LOL!

Here's a puzzle:

As far as I've been able to trace my ancestors, none of them emigrated to the United States of America, and yet none of them would be classified Native American. How can this be?

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Mar 16, 2018 23:53:16   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
acknowledgeurma wrote:
Here's a puzzle:

As far as I've been able to trace my ancestors, none of them emigrated to the United States of America, and yet none of them would be classified Native American. How can this be?


Either whoever is doing the classification is concealing such ancestry or whoever did the trace didn't find the trail, possibly because of name changes. A lot of the old Italians left with one surname, sailed and entered the US under another because the original surname was on an arrest list. Revolution and banditry were very popular in Southern Italy. Something similar could have happened in your family line.

Sometimes the immigration people recording the names would shorten or anglicize the name if it was difficult for them to spell or pronounce.

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Mar 17, 2018 01:48:16   #
acknowledgeurma
 
pafret wrote:
Either whoever is doing the classification is concealing such ancestry or whoever did the trace didn't find the trail, possibly because of name changes. A lot of the old Italians left with one surname, sailed and entered the US under another because the original surname was on an arrest list. Revolution and banditry were very popular in Southern Italy. Something similar could have happened in your family line.

Sometimes the immigration people recording the names would shorten or anglicize the name if it was difficult for them to spell or pronounce.
Either whoever is doing the classification is conc... (show quote)

It's a word trick. None of my ancestors (as far as I have been able to trace them) emigrated to the "United States of America", because...all who might have, were born in the USA and those that were not born in the USA came to this land (from Europe) before the founding of the USA. So no Native American ancestors and no emigrants to the USA.

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Mar 17, 2018 08:08:12   #
SGM B Loc: TEXAS but live in Alabama now
 
11r20 wrote:
I think I'm older than you, and you never get set
in yer ways if the correct info is presented to you...IE:My photos have been removed from this site
because I block advert tracking scripts.

That being said, Sooner or Later I will be living in a Wild West TX Ghost Town


You may well be older than I. And if you are, hopefully with God's grace, I will get there. I'm a "boomer", graduated HS in 1966. What part if Wild West Texas, if you don't mind my asking? I was born in Amarillo and lived in the Texas panhandle until I was 12.

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Mar 17, 2018 08:11:54   #
SGM B Loc: TEXAS but live in Alabama now
 
acknowledgeurma wrote:
Here's a puzzle:

As far as I've been able to trace my ancestors, none of them emigrated to the United States of America, and yet none of them would be classified Native American. How can this be?


Probably wasn't a "USA" when they came here, thus none emigrated to the USA.

SGM B out.

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