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Feb 19, 2014 15:00:37   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
fom wrote:
I see you are a Nephite. I am but a Lamanite


The name Lamanite refers to an Israelite people spoken of in the Book of Mormon, who were descendants of Lehi and Ishmael, both of whom were descendants ...

The Nephites are one of four groups (including the Lamanites, Jaredites, and Mulekites) believed to have settled in the ancient Americas according to the Book of Mormon.


Good for you.

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Feb 19, 2014 19:49:47   #
angery american Loc: Georgia
 
cesspool jones wrote:
first thing you said that made any sense


Don"t encourage him. 1 post out of 1000 is hardly worth bragging about.

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Feb 19, 2014 19:58:19   #
angery american Loc: Georgia
 
Brian Devon wrote:
Stand your ground laws are little more than a license to kill someone, whether black or white. There is now a boycott against Florida that will remain in place until they repeal this vile fig-leaf for violent hate crimes.

I'm not a big fan of Hillary Clinton. I will however vote for her over Jeb Bush, who signed this grotesque piece of legislation. I'm sure the Democrats will remind the public of Jeb's role, in this neanderthal legislation, at election time. This is presuming that the upcoming tea party tantrum won't result in Jeb's being denied the nomination.

Its obvious that some folks on the far right, would like to make the U.S. a western version of Afghanistan where every man has his own automatic weapon and grenade launcher. The Europeans, Australians, Canadians, and Japanese continually shake their heads in disbelief when they learn of some new American gun tragedy.
Stand your ground laws are little more than a lice... (show quote)


Yea and they hid behind locked doors at nite, hoping someone doesn't break in on them, because they have no gun to defend themselves. Here we go again IF you don't wont to own a gun DON'T BUY ONE...become a victim that's your choice....

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Feb 19, 2014 21:06:40   #
sinful of souls
 
ginnyt wrote:
Bo,

It has been quite some time. I hope that all is well with you and your family.

I am going to weigh in on this because it is a matter of how Florida law is written. The individual, Mr. Giles, said that he fired a "warning shot." In the state of Florida, that was the same as saying that there was no fear for his life. The law in question, is:

aggravated battery with a deadly weapon and sentenced under Florida Statute 775.087 (3):

3.&#8195;Any person who is convicted of a felony or an attempt to commit a felony listed in sub-subparagraphs (a)1.a.-q., regardless of whether the use of a weapon is an element of the felony, and during the course of the commission of the felony such person discharged a “firearm” or “destructive device” as defined in s. 790.001 and, as the result of the discharge, death or great bodily harm was inflicted upon any person, the convicted person shall be sentenced to a minimum term of imprisonment of not less than 25 years and not more than a term of imprisonment of life in prison."

Due to the law, the young man could not have received any other sentence. Had he been afraid for his life, then it would not have been a "warning" and would have been a shot to stop or kill the aggressor. He should have, being a gun owner, made himself aware of the laws governing self defense. Indeed, his defense attorney did not fight the case as a stand your ground. Perhaps had Mr. Giles not told the investigators that he had fired a warning shot, and his intent was to warn off a potential escalation of a bad situation, then his defense could have been stand your ground. A good thing for everyone to consider, if you pull a gun, then you must be mentally prepared to take the other person's life.
Bo, br br It has been quite some time. I hope th... (show quote)


:twisted: we'll im glad im not there I was sentence to 5yrs for a murder protecting family but I know there case an my case are 2 different things

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Feb 19, 2014 21:20:04   #
cant beleve Loc: Planet Kolob
 
fom wrote:
I see you are a Nephite. I am but a Lamanite


I doubt she read the book of mormon or would relate to that message. So you're saying your aggressive?

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Feb 19, 2014 21:34:01   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
sinful of souls wrote:
:twisted: we'll im glad im not there I was sentence to 5yrs for a murder protecting family but I know there case an my case are 2 different things


It is instinct to protect one's family. I assure you, if someone was going to hurt my children, then they would not walk away. Who knows, if you had been there and depending on the circumstances then you might have been able to use SYG as defense. In FL you do not have to back away, make sure the other person is indeed going to cause grave harm or death; you only have to be scarred enough to think they are capable and have intent.

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Feb 19, 2014 21:45:09   #
sinful of souls
 
ginnyt wrote:
It is instinct to protect one's family. I assure you, if someone was going to hurt my children, then they would not walk away. Who knows, if you had been there and depending on the circumstances then you might have been able to use SYG as defense. In FL you do not have to back away, make sure the other person is indeed going to cause grave harm or death; you only have to be scarred enough to think they are capable and have intent.


:twisted: thank I will keep that in mind cause I will be moving down there soon all advice will help

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Feb 19, 2014 21:50:08   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
sinful of souls wrote:
:twisted: thank I will keep that in mind cause I will be moving down there soon all advice will help


It would behoove you to get a copy of the law, any police department should be able to assist you in this endeavor, and study it very carefully, especially if you expect to have a CCW, or if not, to have a gun in the home.

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Feb 19, 2014 23:31:58   #
sinful of souls
 
Old_Gringo wrote:
It would behoove you to get a copy of the law, any police department should be able to assist you in this endeavor, and study it very carefully, especially if you expect to have a CCW, or if not, to have a gun in the home.


:twisted: we'll im a felon now I don't think I can buy a firearm anymore for safe keeping

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Feb 19, 2014 23:33:38   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
sinful of souls wrote:
:twisted: we'll im a felon now I don't think I can buy a firearm anymore for safe keeping


Then what advice would you require? To keep from being shot? :lol:

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Feb 19, 2014 23:59:09   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
You do not need a gun to defend yourself. There are other defenses.


Old_Gringo wrote:
Then what advice would you require? To keep from being shot? :lol:

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Feb 20, 2014 00:00:26   #
Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth
 
I've got it, Old Grongo and Carolyn are the same person, transgender!


Old_Gringo wrote:
Then what advice would you require? To keep from being shot? :lol:

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Feb 20, 2014 00:01:30   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
ginnyt wrote:
You do not need a gun to defend yourself. There are other defenses.


That may be true, but nothing does the job as efficiently as a pistol, revolver, rifle or shotgun. And less trouble.

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Feb 20, 2014 00:03:33   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Right you are!


Old_Gringo wrote:
That may be true, but nothing does the job as efficiently as a pistol, revolver, rifle or shotgun. And less trouble.


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Feb 20, 2014 00:11:42   #
sinful of souls
 
ginnyt wrote:
Right you are!




:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:


:twisted: Hell Ya

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