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Mar 12, 2018 06:20:38   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
acknowledgeurma wrote:
If God made us in His image (and not just prideful thinking on our part), then God must be a beautiful horrible terrible person. Sad.

Actually, we are made in a skewed image of God because of the fall of Adam and Eve, which introduced the sin nature into every human being born since then...

When Adam had lived one hundred and thirty years, he became the father of a son in his own likeness, according to his image, and named him Seth. Genesis 5:3

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Mar 12, 2018 07:03:12   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
acknowledgeurma wrote:
If God made us in His image (and not just prideful thinking on our part), then God must be a beautiful horrible terrible person. Sad.
Terrible and horrible are actions, not appearances.

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Mar 12, 2018 13:36:43   #
Nickolai
 
calamityang wrote:
To those who aren't sure: My sciatic nerve was torn mid-thigh in a hospital accident when I was 25 yrs. old. Also punctured, an artery and a vein.
After six months of phlebitis, the drop foot remained. Relatives at a prayer meeting 100 miles away, on a night and hour I didn't expect, made
their petition to the holy spirit. When the pain stopped I glanced at the clock so I could quiz them on their next visit. I fell asleep until morning, the first time in eight months. The limp took the rest of that year and trips to the ice rink, supported on my left side by another skater.

The summer of 1980 I lifted a hundred-forty pound dog over a four-foot wooden fence. The dissected aorta wasn't correctly diagnosed for seven months when it was deemed inoperable. I should expect to succumb to a cold or flu within a few weeks because of the stage of congestive heart failure that had plagued me almost from the start of the injury. My youngest, then seven years old, asked me to take him to meet his Nun who
was to lead his First Communion class. I wanted him to know how I loved him, so I drove for the first time in months, but couldn't walk once entering the church with him. I sat very quietly in the last pew for the mass. A friend spotted me, and helped me to the altar rail for 2nd Sunday prayers for healing. As the priest approached he didn't touch my head and move on. He announced that I was to be healed that day and asked if he could pray for me. Three steps onto the altar I was slain in the spirit. The next day my doctor found my blood pressure normal, and the abdominal aneurysm gone. A new CAT scan didn't even show a scar, a hiatal hernia was gone, and I was longer deaf in my left ear caused by measles at seven yrs. old. My son is now forty-seven yrs. old, but the congestive heart failure remains in my records. When questioned why my
only health problem at my age is high blood pressure, I have to explain it all. My son's story is that he saved me because I saved him when we adopted him.
To those who aren't sure: My sciatic nerve was to... (show quote)







I don't believe any spirit did it Thats a prertty fishy story. Mother nature more than likely She is the only invisible spirt that exists

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Mar 12, 2018 14:36:50   #
Carol Kelly
 
Texas Truth wrote:
Why is it that people deny that God exists. Why is it that people will deny that Satan exists? I believe they both exist and I have chosen the path of light. And I stand on the side of the mountain of Truth and light the trail for my brothers and sisters who seek the Christ. Where we are guided up the side of the mountain and look into the face of God where we are welcomed home.


Yes! God does exist and through him Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior. Look around you.
Everywhere you look, you will see the work of the Lord. The trees, the grass, the seasons, little babies, little children, love and forgiveness. It's all here because of God.

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Mar 12, 2018 15:50:25   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Nickolai wrote:
I don't believe any spirit did it Thats a prertty fishy story. Mother nature more than likely She is the only invisible spirt that exists
Your blind faith is your perogative.

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Mar 12, 2018 16:11:07   #
bahmer
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
That's it simple.
No works
Trying to help the poor, not curse, be kind to others is a ticket to hell without Jesus the Christ.

What is difficult for unbelievers and even believers who "Don't feel saved" is the simplicity of salvation.

It's only faith... Confess, repent (change the way one thinks about sin), Believe


Faith, faith, faith
Genesis 15:6 And God counted Abraham's faith as righteousness.

The Holy Spirit conviction of believers
Unbelievers state "So if you are saved, you have a ticket to sin"
Yes are sins are forgiven because of our faith in Jesus.....
But the Holy spirit our comforter, teacher convictes us, thus we seek to please God and turn from sin, not sin because we are forgiven... Simplicity.

It is so simple that church leaders complicate salvation.

They make complicated doctrine, adding different commands of Jesus to salvation, contradicting scripture.

Unbelievers are incapable of understanding the simplicity without the Holy Spirit.

It is believers that plant the seeds of the gospel, the Holy spirit brings understanding.
That's it simple. br No works br Trying... (show quote)


Amen and Amen

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Mar 12, 2018 16:13:21   #
bahmer
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
Yes! God does exist and through him Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior. Look around you.
Everywhere you look, you will see the work of the Lord. The trees, the grass, the seasons, little babies, little children, love and forgiveness. It's all here because of God.


Amen and Amen

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Mar 12, 2018 16:36:45   #
Nickolai
 
samtheyank wrote:
It is called humanism where man is the center and Christ plays a secondary role. Look at what the Anglican Church has become since the early 1960s. They support abortion and their doctrine is no longer Christ centered. This same cancer has crept into other denominations as well like the Methodist Church, Presbyterian, etc.







https://youtu.be/CEzZ-TEJDvY
Christianity is sun worship

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Mar 12, 2018 16:52:06   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
Nickolai wrote:
https://youtu.be/CEzZ-TEJDvY
Christianity is sun worship

You spelled it wrong...it's SON as in Jesus Christ the SON of God!

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Mar 12, 2018 17:50:31   #
Nickolai
 
mwdegutis wrote:
Actually, we are made in a skewed image of God because of the fall of Adam and Eve, which introduced the sin nature into every human being born since then...

When Adam had lived one hundred and thirty years, he became the father of a son in his own likeness, according to his image, and named him Seth. Genesis 5:3






https://youtu.be/FbkQjIeJFec

The Son is the sun of god and god is the sun and is the reason he is worshiped on sonday.

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Mar 12, 2018 19:04:53   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Nickolai wrote:
https://youtu.be/CEzZ-TEJDvY
Christianity is sun worship


Well you and many many are going to be in for a huge shock at some point in time after you draw your last breath , Just Saying

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Mar 12, 2018 19:19:36   #
acknowledgeurma
 
Super Dave wrote:
Terrible and horrible are actions, not appearances.

Not according to:
https://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Terrible_Visage_(Deed)
Wherein, "Let your enemy look upon your face and see the fear spread across theirs."


The use of the term "image" may be considered synecdoche (a figure of speech in which a part is made to represent the whole or vice versa).

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Mar 12, 2018 19:30:16   #
Nickolai
 
Super Dave wrote:
Your blind faith is your perogative.






Blind faith? I don't believe in faith. I don't believe in belief. I believe in facts and the facts are that Judaism, Christianity and Islam are derived from ancient Egypt sun worship. The religious exclamation amen, ahmen, ahman , the Pharaoh Akhenaten was noted for abandoning polytheism and worshiping one God the Aten, the name of the Sun God was Amen Ra. And he told the people when you pray, pray through Amen Ra so in the ancient temples at the end of prayer they would say Amen and people like robots, still do it not, having a clue as to its origin

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Mar 12, 2018 20:07:53   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
Nickolai wrote:
Blind faith? I don't believe in faith. I don't believe in belief. I believe in facts and the facts are that Judaism, Christianity and Islam are derived from ancient Egypt sun worship. The religious exclamation amen, ahmen, ahman , the Pharaoh Akhenaten was noted for abandoning polytheism and worshiping one God the Aten, the name of the Sun God was Amen Ra. And he told the people when you pray, pray through Amen Ra so in the ancient temples at the end of prayer they would say Amen and people like robots, still do it not, having a clue as to its origin
Blind faith? I don't believe in faith. I don't be... (show quote)

Your gross ignorance never ceases to amaze me.

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Mar 12, 2018 20:09:12   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
acknowledgeurma wrote:
Not according to:
https://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Terrible_Visage_(Deed)
Wherein, "Let your enemy look upon your face and see the fear spread across theirs."


The use of the term "image" may be considered synecdoche (a figure of speech in which a part is made to represent the whole or vice versa).



The book of Genesis was written in Hebrew an ancient language Ackboledgeurma with understanding in Hebrew of that time, not our English language understanding.


Genesis 1:27 - And God created man in his own image

Image (Strong's #6754)
The word צלם (tselem) is literally a shadow which is the outline or representation of the original.
And Elohiym, the Great Powerful One, filled the man with a representation of himself .

When we read "And God created man in his own image" our minds form a mental picture of what we look like and then attribute this picture to God himself. In the Hebrews mind it is not the appearance of something that they concentrate on but its function. This passage is not implying a picture of man or God but their function. Through the Hebrew words of this text we see that God had placed within man a shadow or representation of his own function - goal, purpose, thought, etc. It is our responsibility to live our lives as representatives of God, acting in the same manner as he would.

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