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Mar 11, 2018 17:13:58   #
Radiance3
 
samtheyank wrote:
Bahmer,

You have an excellent insight on what the trend has been and is now. If you ever have a few moments, go on Google and ask who are the wealthiest preachers. There was one, Kenneth Copeland, whose amount of wealth blew me out of the water.

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Not only Kenneth Copeland who is the wealthiest. Google the wealthiest preachers. They own hundreds of millions or even a billion dollars for selling the name of Christ to the members.

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Mar 11, 2018 17:20:18   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
bahmer wrote:
Wow 760 million for a pastor? Something tells me many pastors have missed the boat and their treasures are here and not in heaven, just saying. That is what a lot of these so called pastors are striving for, not souls, but dollar bills, they should be ashamed.


Not everyone that says Lord Lord will inherit the Kingdom of God !

Sad thing is they're leading many astray who are buying into Saten's trap and will suffer the consequences !

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Mar 11, 2018 18:05:13   #
bahmer
 
4430 wrote:
Not everyone that says Lord Lord will inherit the Kingdom of God !

Sad thing is they're leading many astray who are buying into Saten's trap and will suffer the consequences !


Amen and Amen

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Mar 11, 2018 18:15:52   #
samtheyank
 
4430 wrote:
Not everyone that says Lord Lord will inherit the Kingdom of God !

Sad thing is they're leading many astray who are buying into Saten's trap and will suffer the consequences !


4430,

What you are saying is Biblical. It is sad, but what you are reveling is true! Everyone thinks that God is nothing but love who sits under a tree and passes out flowers like a Hippie. He is a just and righteous God who hates sin. We all will have to stand before Him, Christ, and be judged as a human being. If our names are not written in “The Book of Life” that is it. They are sent to Hell and suffer the Second Death for eternity. My heart is sadden to think of the all the people who will be there who had every chance to accept Christ, but kept saying next week, next week, next week, etc.

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Mar 11, 2018 18:31:57   #
jeff smith
 
acknowledgeurma wrote:


if per chance that the universal church , is where you get your teachings from. WELL I suggest that you get out of it as soon as possible! those are the people who said that there is NO 10 commandments , but that they are the 10 suggestions . with a woman as the preacher . they will drag you all to hell with them .

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Mar 11, 2018 18:38:27   #
samtheyank
 
Super Dave wrote:
Yep.

Salvation is a choice.


Super Dave,

Do you believe God chooses us or we choose Him! I just want to know your take on that one. I am a Calvinist. I love to hear what people have to say on that point.

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Mar 11, 2018 18:44:53   #
jeff smith
 
RT friend wrote:
Asking is a status of great importance, Space said to Fate did something once exist before accumulation began, Space said yes but I got tired of it, and in the end I couldn't identify with it and it just vanished.

Space we know for sure was real but where did Fate come from only Space knows.

Dialogue is a question a answer of some sort is always predestined, change always takes place, but some things never change, especially not an invitation to argue scratching to become a state proof what He doesn't, rather than what if He does.

Saying God doesn't is mostly the same as saying God does, for if "does not" were the tree of enlightenment how high could you climb, if no-one said He does and vice versa.

Please don't forget that Religion preexisted Philosophy, we buried our dead with useful and valuable items some living who died in the grave and some made up items of importance but never the dead were buried with other dead bodies as an act of respect.

So compared to the Tree of Knowledge that suckered on to the highest branch of the Tree of Life, (or the answer would have been provided from the beginning), was the question of Religion parasitic, commensurate or mutual depended on how hungry and poor the ancestors were, Philosophy was a luxury, provided as proof of itself for the ancestors that could afford it in the beginning.

If Religion were passed down from above the answer would be obvious from the beginning and no question would apply.

That doesn't mean I'm not Religious, I'm just waiting for the question does Fate exist, accumulation is God I'm Muslim Pantheism.
Asking is a status of great importance, Space said... (show quote)


the answer was in the beginning . Adam was created and talked and walked with GOD. then Eve was created from a rib of Adam . the there were man and woman . who if they did what they were told to do would still be here . BUT the serpent deceived her and she Adam , then came the first death . after the first death comes judgment . evil or deniers are hell bound . believers who are washed in the blood of the savior, JESUS CHRIST ,will be saved .

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Mar 11, 2018 18:57:37   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
jeff smith wrote:
...believers who are washed in the blood of the savior, JESUS CHRIST ,will be saved .

My favorite verses in the Bible (actually they're all my favorites)...Roman 10:9-13

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Mar 11, 2018 19:00:09   #
bahmer
 
mwdegutis wrote:
My favorite verses in the Bible (actually they're all my favorites)...Roman 10:9-13


Very good verses indeed.

Romans 10:9-13 King James Version (KJV)

9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

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Mar 11, 2018 19:30:00   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
samtheyank wrote:
4430,

What you are saying is Biblical. It is sad, but what you are reveling is true! Everyone thinks that God is nothing but love who sits under a tree and passes out flowers like a Hippie. He is a just and righteous God who hates sin. We all will have to stand before Him, Christ, and be judged as a human being. If our names are not written in “The Book of Life” that is it. They are sent to Hell and suffer the Second Death for eternity. My heart is sadden to think of the all the people who will be there who had every chance to accept Christ, but kept saying next week, next week, next week, etc.
4430, br br What you are saying is Biblical. It i... (show quote)


Spot On

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Mar 11, 2018 20:53:35   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
bahmer wrote:
Very good verses indeed.

Romans 10:9-13 King James Version (KJV)

9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Very good verses indeed. br br Romans 10:9-13 Kin... (show quote)



That's it simple.
No works
Trying to help the poor, not curse, be kind to others is a ticket to hell without Jesus the Christ.

What is difficult for unbelievers and even believers who "Don't feel saved" is the simplicity of salvation.

It's only faith... Confess, repent (change the way one thinks about sin), Believe


Faith, faith, faith
Genesis 15:6 And God counted Abraham's faith as righteousness.

The Holy Spirit conviction of believers
Unbelievers state "So if you are saved, you have a ticket to sin"
Yes are sins are forgiven because of our faith in Jesus.....
But the Holy spirit our comforter, teacher convictes us, thus we seek to please God and turn from sin, not sin because we are forgiven... Simplicity.

It is so simple that church leaders complicate salvation.

They make complicated doctrine, adding different commands of Jesus to salvation, contradicting scripture.

Unbelievers are incapable of understanding the simplicity without the Holy Spirit.

It is believers that plant the seeds of the gospel, the Holy spirit brings understanding.

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Mar 11, 2018 22:32:10   #
rumitoid
 
samtheyank wrote:
4430,

What you are saying is Biblical. It is sad, but what you are reveling is true! Everyone thinks that God is nothing but love who sits under a tree and passes out flowers like a Hippie. He is a just and righteous God who hates sin. We all will have to stand before Him, Christ, and be judged as a human being. If our names are not written in “The Book of Life” that is it. They are sent to Hell and suffer the Second Death for eternity. My heart is sadden to think of the all the people who will be there who had every chance to accept Christ, but kept saying next week, next week, next week, etc.
4430, br br What you are saying is Biblical. It i... (show quote)


If you are right, I will be an atheist tomorrow. Oh, and take my chances.

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Mar 11, 2018 22:59:52   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
samtheyank wrote:
Super Dave,

Do you believe God chooses us or we choose Him! I just want to know your take on that one. I am a Calvinist. I love to hear what people have to say on that point.
Both.

God chose us to be made in His image, live as men, and then enjoy his presence for eternity. But we have to choose to accept the invitation.

I'm a Calvin & Hobbsist.

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Mar 11, 2018 23:09:06   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
rumitoid wrote:
If you are right, I will be an atheist tomorrow. Oh, and take my chances.




God's word is truth, it's the living word of God. While he didn't quote word for word, verse by verse, he did in fact correctly state the word of God.

You claim to be a Christian in other post, and this is something every child of God that reads God's word knows, but you don't?
I would say while it's not impossible for a liberal to be a Christian, one that is saved, but unversed in God's word, it is impossible for one to be saved that is versed in God's Word and know the democrat platform, Democrat agenda, Democrat ideology and be supportive of it.
So are you a supportive liberal?

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Mar 12, 2018 01:19:33   #
acknowledgeurma
 
Super Dave wrote:
Both.

God chose us to be made in His image, live as men, and then enjoy his presence for eternity. But we have to choose to accept the invitation.

I'm a Calvin & Hobbsist.

If God made us in His image (and not just prideful thinking on our part), then God must be a beautiful horrible terrible person. Sad.

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