Loki Loc: Georgia

I'll PM you later. Gotta get offline right now.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

No worries. I will be around.

BoJester

One thing is certain about mr. dunn. Sooner or later, he will be out of solitary and in gen pop.
There he will meet some interesting residents, named Jamal, Malik, Tyrone, Santiago, Gomez, as well as Bubba, Ray Bob and Fritz.
He will be 'friended' by some of these gentlemen, and prison etiquette, and welcomed with open arms.

It is VERY likely that dunn will be schooled in music appreciation, especially what Hip-Hop can do for the heart rate when working out strenuously.

Hopefully, mr. dunn will have years to learn to enjoy loud music, and also how to politely ask to have the music turned down.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Bo,

He will never be in the general population. Sorry that may have disappointed not only you but others. And he will not be in a cell in Florida. He will be "farmed out" to another facility where he will not come in contact with any of the "friends" of the man that was killed. Most probably back in his own state. And, more sad news, he will never spend more than 2 years in jail, if he spends that much time. The vast majority of his time will be in a medical facility where he will be under constant supervision.

Whereas the laws in Florida need to be changed, there is nothing in the near future to visit the stand your ground laws.

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

Dunn is going to prison as punishment not for punishment. He was wrong and murdered a mouthy teenager. He probly thought he had no worrys since every one knows only gangsters listen to loud rap music ,that is if you are WHITE and over 40quote=ginnyt]Bo,

He will never be in the general population. Sorry that may have disappointed not only you but others. And he will not be in a cell in Florida. He will be "farmed out" to another facility where he will not come in contact with any of the "friends" of the man that was killed. Most probably back in his own state. And, more sad news, he will never spend more than 2 years in jail, if he spends that much time. The vast majority of his time will be in a medical facility where he will be under constant supervision.

Whereas the laws in Florida need to be changed, there is nothing in the near future to visit the stand your ground laws.[/quote]

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Fom,

Not once have I defended Mr. Dunn. I have repeated several times that in my opinion he was wrong. But, it does not change the fact that the jurors did not find that they could convict him for murder. They convicted him on what they could agree upon. The variables, such as what would a reasonable person do was a big consideration. Did he fear for his life. That is, did he think he heard someone threaten to kill him. The question is, did the person have the means to which to carry out the threat. In the mind of the accused, the answer was he believed that he saw a gun. So, the response to that question is the defendant was threatened and he was in fear for his life and there was a weapon. In the heat of the moment, with the information I just provided the next question, what would a reasonable person do. Could he outrun a gunshot? Could he have physically subdued the aggressors? Minus these options, what remained? He had a gun, it was loaded. In hindsight, he should not have gone to that store, he should not have asked the noise to be turned down, and he should have gone to a tanning booth before he left his home state.

My point is, if you are in a tense situation, and you are afraid you only have two options..... run like hell or try to take the other person/thing out. Your brain does not go through the what if situations. It goes on auto pilot and you react. That is the average person. For some people, they train (such as police and our military) not to react. My second point, this would not be a point of discussion had the roles been reversed. It would only be on the news for one time and it would be called an "accidental" shooting. But, the issue arises because the old guy was white. And should anyone create a topic on it, many would say that it is a myth and did not happen. No such thing as a black man killing a white and if they did so it was in self defense and because white man has kept him enslaved and he had no opportunities. Don't think so? Read this thread from start to finish.

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Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

Dunn Had no reason to bother the teenagers about their music as they were all at a convienience store soon to be leaving and going about life.He had to start something because he felt superior. His assertion that he saw a gun is no more the truth than George Zimmerman saying he feared for his life. Dunn got what he deserved. A young boy will never see his potential get married have kids because of an arrogant bully who thought he could kill a "THUG" and be exonerated.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Well, I respect your opinion. And in the light, I do hope that you respect my right to see this in a legal sense and not from a visceral reaction. BTW, the Zimmerman/Martin case is over. Just as this one, unless on his retrial a different verdict is rendered. To be honest, I am somewhat amazed that he was not taken directly from the courthouse to lethal injection. Perhaps that is the justice that many had wanted. Perhaps this would be the solution, any white person who shoots, regardless of reason, should be automatically executed..... would that then be your brand of justice?

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

Ginny my brand of justice is just plain justice as it has been and ever will be. I believeve every defendant has the right to due process.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Really? Read what you wrote. You do not know this man, you were not at his trial, but still you go into calling him in no uncertain words the scum of the earth. Saying he had a superiority complex.... You scream and yell about the injustice to the other person, how he had a right to be disrespectful, he had a right to his loud music, all his rights....not once did you stop and say, HEY THERE ARE TWO SIDES to every situation. No, your brand of justice is one sided. Your brand of justice is reactionary. Your brand of justice is a lynch mob mentality. If the accused is white then the accused is guilty. That is the justice of America now!

Cool Breeze

I agree there is idiot here and guess who it is? You used the NBC as a link so I assumed that you basically agreed and knew what you talking about. I was wrong it's apparent you don't! You was right about one thing. I don't trust FOX! The NBC statistics are suspect too but that is another story. In the future if you cannot honestly stand behind the your links refrain from posting them. It makes you appear to be a disingenuous moron.

Cool Breeze

Accept my apologies I didn't realize that facts and truth offended you! Since you are content with you dubious and highly suspect narratives I have no objections. I'm sorry I cannot be a member of your "irrational club!"

Cool Breeze

Excuse Me? I think you take yourself too seriously to believe that you are that important! you aren't! You being a emotionally or spiritually dead individual is your concern! I suggest psychotherapy before your condition worsens!

Loki Loc: Georgia

By dubious and suspect, that means anyone who dares to disagree with you in any particular on anything? US News and World Report is wrong, NBC News is wrong, I could have included the statistics from the US Bureau of Statistics, but why bother? They are wrong, too, because they have the temerity to contradict your biases. You have offered no facts or truth, you have merely dismissed source after source proving you wrong as being suspect.

Loki Loc: Georgia

You are a poster child for invincible ignorance. Not to mention retroactive abortion.