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Feb 18, 2014 13:05:57   #
Cool Breeze
 
banjojack wrote:
Oderint, dum metuant


Could it be that since you live in the country and sort of isolated that there is nothing there worth stealing and there are better opportunities elsewhere?

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Feb 18, 2014 13:15:09   #
Cool Breeze
 
ginnyt wrote:
Here are some facts regarding the murder of unborn children:

•In 2010, 85% of all abortions were performed on unmarried women (CDC).
•Women living with a partner to whom they are not married account for 25% of abortions but only about 10% of women in the population (NAF).
•In 2010, 55.6% of abortions were performed on women who had not aborted in the past; 36.7% were performed on women with one or two prior abortions, and 7.7% were performed on women with three or more prior abortions (CDC).
•Among women who obtained abortions in 2010, 40.3% had no prior live births; 45.9% had one or two prior live births, and 13.8% had three or more prior live births (CDC).

•Women between the ages of 20-24 obtained 32.9% of all abortions in 2010; women between 25-29 obtained 24.5% (CDC).
•Women in their 20's have the highest abortion rates. In 2010, women aged 20-24 had 27.4 abortions for every one thousand 20-24 year-old women. Women aged 25-29 had 20.4 abortions for every one thousand 25-29 year-old women (CDC).

•51% of U.S. women obtaining abortions are younger than 25; women aged 20-24 obtain 33% of all U.S. abortions, and teenagers obtain 18% (AGI).
•In 2009, adolescents under 15 years obtained .05% of all abortions, but had the highest abortion ratio, 785 abortions for every 1,000 live births (CDC).
•Black women are more than 4.8 times more likely than non-Hispanic white women to have an abortion, and Hispanic women are 2.7 times as likely (AGI).
•The abortion rate of non-metropolitan women is about half that of women who live in metropolitan counties (NAF).
•The abortion rate of women with Medicaid coverage is three times as high as that of other women (NAF).
•37% of women obtaining abortions identify themselves as Protestant, and 28% identify themselves as Catholic (AGI).
•At current rates, nearly one-third of American women will have an abortion (AGI).

Total number of abortions in the U.S. 1973-2011: 54.5 million+

234 abortions per 1,000 live births (according to the Centers for Disease Control)
Abortions per year: 1.2 million
Abortions per day: 3,288
Abortions per hour: 137
9 abortions every 4 minutes
1 abortion every 26 seconds
Here are some facts regarding the murder of unborn... (show quote)


You cannot have it both ways! You stated that 72 percent of Black Women are having kids out of wedlock but they are having the majority of the abortions? Therefore this statistic is suspect. Why the "concern" about Black Babies?

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Feb 18, 2014 13:22:19   #
Cool Breeze
 
ginnyt wrote:
It may get to the point that all Americans obtain concealed carry permits. It would make people think about their actions and wonder if the person they intend to assault (whether rob, insult and threaten....) is carrying and if they will indeed just fill you full of holes. I now have a permit to protect myself and our new child. I would not hesitate in using it if she where in danger.

I would hate to see our country turn into a self preservation society, but if the murders continue (whether by games of knock out, shooting people on the street, or breaking into a home) what are the other choices?
It may get to the point that all Americans obtain ... (show quote)


Just curious? Do you feel threatened by black thugs listening to Rap Music? BTW this Knockout game BS is nonsense! http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/11/25/1258193/-The-Knockout-Game-is-a-Dream-Come-True-for-Racist-White-Conservatives

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Feb 18, 2014 13:25:07   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Abortion is an ugly stain on society. More attention needs to be paid to programs that prevent abortions. effort to stop abortion exascerbates the problem. Give generously to planned parenthood. adoption resources and unwed mothers homes
ginnyt wrote:
Here are some facts regarding the murder of unborn children:

•In 2010, 85% of all abortions were performed on unmarried women (CDC).
•Women living with a partner to whom they are not married account for 25% of abortions but only about 10% of women in the population (NAF).
•In 2010, 55.6% of abortions were performed on women who had not aborted in the past; 36.7% were performed on women with one or two prior abortions, and 7.7% were performed on women with three or more prior abortions (CDC).
•Among women who obtained abortions in 2010, 40.3% had no prior live births; 45.9% had one or two prior live births, and 13.8% had three or more prior live births (CDC).

•Women between the ages of 20-24 obtained 32.9% of all abortions in 2010; women between 25-29 obtained 24.5% (CDC).
•Women in their 20's have the highest abortion rates. In 2010, women aged 20-24 had 27.4 abortions for every one thousand 20-24 year-old women. Women aged 25-29 had 20.4 abortions for every one thousand 25-29 year-old women (CDC).

•51% of U.S. women obtaining abortions are younger than 25; women aged 20-24 obtain 33% of all U.S. abortions, and teenagers obtain 18% (AGI).
•In 2009, adolescents under 15 years obtained .05% of all abortions, but had the highest abortion ratio, 785 abortions for every 1,000 live births (CDC).
•Black women are more than 4.8 times more likely than non-Hispanic white women to have an abortion, and Hispanic women are 2.7 times as likely (AGI).
•The abortion rate of non-metropolitan women is about half that of women who live in metropolitan counties (NAF).
•The abortion rate of women with Medicaid coverage is three times as high as that of other women (NAF).
•37% of women obtaining abortions identify themselves as Protestant, and 28% identify themselves as Catholic (AGI).
•At current rates, nearly one-third of American women will have an abortion (AGI).

Total number of abortions in the U.S. 1973-2011: 54.5 million+

234 abortions per 1,000 live births (according to the Centers for Disease Control)
Abortions per year: 1.2 million
Abortions per day: 3,288
Abortions per hour: 137
9 abortions every 4 minutes
1 abortion every 26 seconds
Here are some facts regarding the murder of unborn... (show quote)

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Feb 18, 2014 13:41:09   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Okay, I see your problem. You are so concerned with your own point of view that you do not read. First, it was not me that gave your statistics about 72 percent of black women having babies. Nor did I post about having children out of wedlock. I simply responded to your post asking about abortions. Regarding the accuracy of my data, at the end of each point you will find the source. For example CDC stands for Center for Disease Control, PPH stands for Planned Parenthood. A person with average intelligence could have figured this out.

As for my concern over black children/babies/women/men/teenagers and any other group of age determinations of blacks. I could care less. I firmly believe that it was a mistake brining them to our shores. The problems associated with the mistake has haunted and hampered the US in so many ways for too many years. Too many people have died, too much money is spent, and too much time wasted in codling their feelings.

Whereas I understand your emotional investment in all things black, it is wise to divorce your emotions and think rationally. This will allow you to respond to the correct person with your comments.

Cool Breeze wrote:
You cannot have it both ways! You stated that 72 percent of Black Women are having kids out of wedlock but they are having the majority of the abortions? Therefore this statistic is suspect. Why the "concern" about Black Babies?

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Feb 18, 2014 13:48:01   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
I agree. Abortion has taken on the role of birth control. This is the wrong approach. I see no harm in preventing pregnancy, but after conception then that fetus is a child. Did you know that those babies while being dismembered cry? Did you know that they have brain activity, they dream? They are people, innocent people that deserve every consideration that those living out of the womb demand and deserve. I find it so curious, for lack of a better word, that some people see a person who has cancer as an object of urgency to find a cure, or they import people from all over the world to perform life saving treatments, but those same people do not see abortion as murder.


fom wrote:
Abortion is an ugly stain on society. More attention needs to be paid to programs that prevent abortions. effort to stop abortion exascerbates the problem. Give generously to planned parenthood. adoption resources and unwed mothers homes

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Feb 18, 2014 13:48:25   #
Brian Devon
 
[quote=ginnyt]So Cool Breeze, the man was wrong on several accounts. Here is a question for you. What if really loud music makes you crazy?





Is that what happened to you???

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Feb 18, 2014 13:52:41   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Cool Breeze wrote:
Just curious? Do you feel threatened by black thugs listening to Rap Music? BTW this Knockout game BS is nonsense! http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/11/25/1258193/-The-Knockout-Game-is-a-Dream-Come-True-for-Racist-White-Conservatives


If the rap music was coupled with 3 or more angry black men, the response is yes. A very loud YES! If you think that the knock out game is a nonsense, then you need to talk to my neighbor's son. He is Jewish, lives in NYC and spent 2 weeks in the hospital because he was the victim of the knock out game. Also, account for the eye witness, the people who went on the news to laugh and explain why blacks play the game, account for the videos.

I do recommend that you read more than a title to your links. Here is a quote from the opening remarks of your link:

"I share no sense of linked fate with Marvell Weaver, the hoodlum who was arrested for playing the "knockout game" and then decided to do an interview with the local news about his exploits.

After watching Weaver's pathetic explanation for the logic of his crime, I am left wondering what happened to shame?"

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Feb 18, 2014 13:55:28   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
[quote=Brian Devon]
ginnyt wrote:
So Cool Breeze, the man was wrong on several accounts. Here is a question for you. What if really loud music makes you crazy?

Is that what happened to you???


No. Is it what happened to you?

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Feb 18, 2014 14:01:09   #
FOXFIRE Loc: SW Commonwealth of Virginia
 
ginnyt wrote:
If the rap music was coupled with 3 or more angry black men, the response is yes. A very loud YES! If you think that the knock out game is a nonsense, then you need to talk to my neighbor's son. He is Jewish, lives in NYC and spent 2 weeks in the hospital because he was the victim of the knock out game. Also, account for the eye witness, the people who went on the news to laugh and explain why blacks play the game, account for the videos.

I do recommend that you read more than a title to your links. Here is a quote from the opening remarks of your link:

"I share no sense of linked fate with Marvell Weaver, the hoodlum who was arrested for playing the "knockout game" and then decided to do an interview with the local news about his exploits.

After watching Weaver's pathetic explanation for the logic of his crime, I am left wondering what happened to shame?"
If the rap music was coupled with 3 or more angry ... (show quote)


Thugs are just Thugs. Doesn't matter their race or the (music ?) they might be listening too.

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Feb 18, 2014 14:04:39   #
Brian Devon
 
ginnyt wrote:
Thank you for your recommendation, I will take it into consideration if you will consider that these black people may have made some errors that could have, should have, and any thinking person would have avoided. Just stop for a moment and think with your head. Have you taken the time to listen to the words of the rap music? None of it has lyrics about cute kittens, respect, love, or tolerance. So the young people listening to that garbage is being told that whites are "crackers", whites are always wrong, whites should be killed, whites owe blacks, and so on. Does that racket create calm gentle people or does it plant seeds of revenge for "hundreds of years of injustice?"

Given circumstances where you are afraid for your life and traveling companions, how would you have handled it? Just put up with the noise? Just make sure that it was a gun--I guess a shot to the face like the 13 month old child would do that--before taking any action? Put yourself in both places; those of the three (3 against one, good odds) black men and then turn it around and put yourself in the 60 year old place.

I will be honest, the 60 year old man was wrong on many accounts. He could have driven to another store, but I have to ask.... why should he have to? Was he not entitled to shop where he wanted without being insulated as well as assaulted? He could have remained silent and not asked for the noise to be turned down. But, again....should he have had to? Should the noise had been so loud? Was he not entitled to the freedom to shop without being assaulted with the noise? He could have made sure that the young man had indeed intended to follow through with his thread of killing him. But, would that have been too late? What do we expect from a frightened mind? Logic? No, the frightened mind does one of two things..... fight or flight.
Thank you for your recommendation, I will take it ... (show quote)



What kind of moron approaches any group of teen-agers and tells them to turn down their loud music? Teen-agers whether white or black are mostly "hormones with feet". By adulthood a person should know this.

I can't stand rap music. I also can't stand white heavy metal. I am sure many black parents would rather their kids listen to Miles Davis or Herbie Hancock than listen to Kanye West. I am sure many white parents would rather their kids listen to Tony Bennet, rather than some headbanging music. That being said, when you are confronted with loud tasteless music.......you just walk away.......unless you are an angry hater who wants to ruin other people's lives as well as your own.

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Feb 18, 2014 14:11:42   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
FOXFIRE wrote:
Thugs are just Thugs. Doesn't matter their race or the (music ?) they might be listening too.


You are quite correct. And I do think that there are some people that violent video games, lyrics of music, sermons from preachers, and the like have adverse affects. I know that there are many people that do not like opera, but I do not know of any defendant on trial for murder will say that opera, such as http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=youtube+andrea+bocelli&qpvt=youtube+andrea+bocelli&FORM=VDRE#view=detail&mid=AFC19187ED71C2B378AFAFC19187ED71C2B378AF drove them to kill someone. But, I have read, regarding the most recent Cambridge sucker punching of 3 separate people: "“To me he just seemed mentally disturbed,” she says. “He seemed under the influence he was listening to music really loud and he was just walking around yelling.”

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Feb 18, 2014 14:20:15   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Good for you. Me, if the noise is really annoying, I would approach Satan to tell him to turn that sh** down. Children, regardless of their hormone conditions, MUST BE TAUGHT that they have to control themselves. Their actions are how their parents are judged and therefore their entire race is judged. You want to make the world a better place? Then start taking charge and control of your off spring! Want racial issues to normalize, then control the children, stop teaching them hate! And for God's sake, stop defending poor decisions and actions! I am sure that you know some physics; for every action there is an equal reaction. Parents, keep that in mind. If your child acts like an ape without morals, then that is how they will be treated. Regardless of color, race, or any other variable.

Brian Devon wrote:
What kind of moron approaches any group of teen-agers and tells them to turn down their loud music? Teen-agers whether white or black are mostly "hormones with feet". By adulthood a person should know this.

I can't stand rap music. I also can't stand white heavy metal. I am sure many black parents would rather their kids listen to Miles Davis or Herbie Hancock than listen to Kanye West. I am sure many white parents would rather their kids listen to Tony Bennet, rather than some headbanging music. That being said, when you are confronted with loud tasteless music.......you just walk away.......unless you are an angry hater who wants to ruin other people's lives as well as your own.
What kind of moron approaches any group of teen-ag... (show quote)

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Feb 18, 2014 14:27:18   #
Brian Devon
 
ginnyt wrote:
Good for you. Me, if the noise is really annoying, I would approach Satan to tell him to turn that sh** down. Children, regardless of their hormone conditions, MUST BE TAUGHT that they have to control themselves. Their actions are how their parents are judged and therefore their entire race is judged. You want to make the world a better place? Then start taking charge and control of your off spring! Want racial issues to normalize, then control the children, stop teaching them hate! And for God's sake, stop defending poor decisions and actions! I am sure that you know some physics; for every action there is an equal reaction. Parents, keep that in mind. If your child acts like an ape without morals, then that is how they will be treated. Regardless of color, race, or any other variable.
Good for you. Me, if the noise is really annoying... (show quote)



When you judge an entire people based on the behavior of the few...that is bigotry. I live in an integrated area. I never hear middle aged adults, whether white or black blaring their music. The young women don't have to announce their presence either. Rap and heavy metal are mostly the trade of black and white young men, fueled with too much teen-age testosterone.

Any adult should know this. Mr. Dunn has obviously been living in his own little world and doesn't even have the sense of my Labrador Retriever.........who would have just avoided this whole problem.

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Feb 18, 2014 14:33:14   #
Cool Breeze
 
ginnyt wrote:
Okay, I see your problem. You are so concerned with your own point of view that you do not read. First, it was not me that gave your statistics about 72 percent of black women having babies. Nor did I post about having children out of wedlock. I simply responded to your post asking about abortions. Regarding the accuracy of my data, at the end of each point you will find the source. For example CDC stands for Center for Disease Control, PPH stands for Planned Parenthood. A person with average intelligence could have figured this out.

As for my concern over black children/babies/women/men/teenagers and any other group of age determinations of blacks. I could care less. I firmly believe that it was a mistake brining them to our shores. The problems associated with the mistake has haunted and hampered the US in so many ways for too many years. Too many people have died, too much money is spent, and too much time wasted in codling their feelings.

Whereas I understand your emotional investment in all things black, it is wise to divorce your emotions and think rationally. This will allow you to respond to the correct person with your comments.
Okay, I see your problem. You are so concerned wi... (show quote)


You are correct! It wasn't you! The thread was about Michael Dunn not about Black babies born out of wedlock! I'm relatively new at this and probably got confused! I don't place much faith in statistical selective data anyway but your comment is interesting to say the least! Historically speaking there was no mistake in bringing blacks to your shores! I find that amusing since this land wasn't originally yours! How you acquired it is open for discussion! As far as responding to bigotry I shall refrain for one's personal hangups is their problem! I hope you feel better soon!

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