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Feb 2, 2018 17:09:56   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
SilentGeneration wrote:
Isn't the same true of Republicans? Their leaders are the Koch brothers.


Brainwashed Much?
Progressive movement have feasted on the Kochs, made them (until now) the scariest force on the Right. Now they are suddenly aligned with the Kochs, because the family has signaled clearly that they would rather live with the Wall Street militarist Hillary, than succumb in any way to the nest-robbing Republican Donald Trump.

https://www.counterpunch.org/2016/05/06/strange-bedfellows-the-bizarre-coalition-of-kochs-neocons-and-democrats-against-trump-and-his-fu-voters/

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Feb 2, 2018 18:45:54   #
teabag09
 
I think that the Democrats would have done themselves a favor to just boycott the whole thing. By their actions they really showed their true colors, that of haters of America and the American people. Mike
Mom8052 wrote:
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I was offended by the Democrats at the SOTU address. I feel their actions spoke louder than words. It's their way or the Highway, could careless what anyone thinks, will do not what the people I represent want, but what the people in charge of the Democratic demand! DAMING!!!!!
~~~~~~~~~~~ br I was offended by the Democrats at ... (show quote)

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Feb 2, 2018 18:47:17   #
teabag09
 
Not to the same degree, no. Mike
SilentGeneration wrote:
Isn't the same true of Republicans? Their leaders are the Koch brothers.

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Feb 2, 2018 18:50:31   #
teabag09
 
The Koch brothers contribute to both sides abet maybe more towards Conservatives as they are more to their leaning. Can the same be said of Soros? Mike
SilentGeneration wrote:
So far, in Wikipedia listed as Koch Brothers politics and Kochpac, there is extensive information about the Koch Brothers work on influencing politics and on how they amass large sums of money to use as political contributions.

I haven't yet found the article i was looking for. What I'm remembering is that the Koch Brothers had said they would withhold some $800 million in political contributions for the midterm elections if Congress didn't pass the tax reform bill.

My last problem is that I don't know how to make or share links. 😐
So far, in Wikipedia listed as Koch Brothers polit... (show quote)

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Feb 2, 2018 19:14:56   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
maryjane wrote:
Can you spell hypocrite????


I think you just did....

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Feb 2, 2018 19:41:59   #
PeterS
 
Mom8052 wrote:
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I was offended by the Democrats at the SOTU address. I feel their actions spoke louder than words. It's their way or the Highway, could careless what anyone thinks, will do not what the people I represent want, but what the people in charge of the Democratic demand! DAMING!!!!!
~~~~~~~~~~~ br I was offended by the Democrats at ... (show quote)

God, how soon we forget how your own conservatives behaved at Obama's presidential addresses...

1. The birther fiasco (2009-2011). No evidence. No proof. No documentation. But the story traveled on for years. Yes, Hawaii is part of the United States of America.

2. “You lie” (Sept. 2009). That any individual — no less a member of Congress watching a U.S. President during a joint session on live national television — is so lacking in self control that this moment was made possible is incredible — even in an age of incivility. Remember this happened only nine months into Obama’s presidency and is another “we can’t remember that ever happening ever before” moment. Close your eyes and pretend Rep. Maxine Waters was Wilson doing this to President Bush and image the reaction.

3. Signs of the Tea Party (July 2010) and Naked Racism (April 2011). Anyone remember California GOP official Marilyn Davenport’s racist e-mail? Did she ever resign for that? I remember all the criticism of the NAACP – particularly from Black Republicans — for their “Tea Party resolution” of 2010. Where was that indignation regarding what can be viewed in this video? Click here.

4. Donald “unchecked ego” Trump inflames birther fiasco, media assists (April 2011). The mouth of Donald Trump is a powerful thing when joined with a 24-hour cable news cycle desperate for viewers. That news organizations invited Trump on the air unchallenged with zero proof of what he was saying speaks volumes on the state of journalism. That Trump was completely comfortable demanding that a U.S. President “show him his papers” displays a superiority complex that exists among those who can’t accept someone they view as “lesser” in a position of power over them.

4. Deadbeat dad and probable one-termer thinks his presence before the President actually matters and needs to tell everyone (Sept 2011). The disrespect isn’t that probable one term Congressman Joe Walsh (R-IL) wouldn’t attend the President’s Sept. 8 speech. The disrespect is that Rep. Walsh actually believed that everyone knowing he wasn’t attending was important. That he needed to announce he would not attend on national television, as if anyone cared, was yet another delusional superiority episode. That proudly showing public disrespect towards the President is a winning strategy in some political circles reveals a lot.

5. Newt Gingrich’s “Kenyan anti-colonial behavior” comment (Sept 2010). Even Washington Post columnist and conservative thinker George Will slammed this attempt to define the President as “foreign.” Never mind the facts: President Obama wasn’t reared by his father in Kenya with whom he spent only a month of his 50 years on this earth. The strategy to define the President as a “foreign” or “alien” being was started by Sarah Palin in 2008.

6. One of the underlying premises of disrespect towards the President is that he can be ordered around and dictated to like he’s Tipi the laundry boy. The presumption that a U.S. President can be ordered around is a new phenomenon that appears to have gotten underway around January 2009. From big mouth Congressmen to millionaires with nothing to do, you name it — they all inherently believe they can order President Obama around. At least Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is an actual leader of something. Regardless, read this and ask yourself if you think this would have happened to Presidents Bush, Reagan or Clinton.

7. Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer puts her finger in the President’s face (January 2012). The photo speaks for itself. Of course there are strong political disagreements between President Obama and Gov. Brewer. But is it just possible there was a better time and place for this conversation? Brewer said she felt “a little threatened” by President Obama. Please.

8. GOP House, prompted by Tea Party — refuses to raise debt ceiling (Aug 2011). Sounds like this was just hardball politics right? Let’s review the facts: The debt ceiling had been raised 69 times since 1962 without incident. Seven times during Bush II and 18 times during Reagan. Suddenly, with President Obama, a shiny new precedent is set with regard to raising the debt ceiling. Another never before seen incident is born.

9. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) Publicly Announces His Top Political Priority (Dec 2010). McConnell wants the President out of office? No news there, but, wait, there’s more to it. “Our top political priority over the next two years should be to deny President Obama a second term,” Sen. McConnell told the Heritage Foundation. Of course the Senate Republican Leader doesn’t want the President to be re-elected. But what’s with the public announcement? In July 2010 McConnell acknowledged his single most important political goal: President Obama being a one-term President. Again: In public and on national television.

10. Speaker Boehner refuses speech date request (September 2011). No it is not the end of the world. Of course, the White House intentionally wanted to step on a GOP debate that same night. But, this is yet another first in American history. Once again, no one can find another instance where a President of the United States requested a date to address Congress and was refused.

You guys wrote the book in disrespecting the opposing president and now you are sitting there pointing fingers??? You really should get a life...

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Feb 2, 2018 19:49:15   #
PeterS
 
teabag09 wrote:
The Koch brothers contribute to both sides abet maybe more towards Conservatives as they are more to their leaning. Can the same be said of Soros? Mike

The Koch brothers contribute to both sides? In 2016 the Koch brothers signed up to spend the same amount as both the RNC and DNC (900 million total) and nary a penny was designated towards Hillary. The Koch brothers only support candidates who only support their positions. Is that any different than Soros?

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/27/us/politics/kochs-plan-to-spend-900-million-on-2016-campaign.html

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Feb 2, 2018 20:47:38   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Did you know that President Trump, then candidate, told the Koch brothers that they "their money was better spent trying to influence congressional races." He rejected their donations. So, our President does not owe them a thing!

http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-no-koch-brothers-money-486610

PeterS wrote:
The Koch brothers contribute to both sides? In 2016 the Koch brothers signed up to spend the same amount as both the RNC and DNC (900 million total) and nary a penny was designated towards Hillary. The Koch brothers only support candidates who only support their positions. Is that any different than Soros?

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/27/us/politics/kochs-plan-to-spend-900-million-on-2016-campaign.html

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Feb 2, 2018 20:50:58   #
teabag09
 
Time for you to take a nap. Spewing nonsense equates to NAP time. Grab squiggley and off you go. Mike
PeterS wrote:
God, how soon we forget how your own conservatives behaved at Obama's presidential addresses...

1. The birther fiasco (2009-2011). No evidence. No proof. No documentation. But the story traveled on for years. Yes, Hawaii is part of the United States of America.

2. “You lie” (Sept. 2009). That any individual — no less a member of Congress watching a U.S. President during a joint session on live national television — is so lacking in self control that this moment was made possible is incredible — even in an age of incivility. Remember this happened only nine months into Obama’s presidency and is another “we can’t remember that ever happening ever before” moment. Close your eyes and pretend Rep. Maxine Waters was Wilson doing this to President Bush and image the reaction.

3. Signs of the Tea Party (July 2010) and Naked Racism (April 2011). Anyone remember California GOP official Marilyn Davenport’s racist e-mail? Did she ever resign for that? I remember all the criticism of the NAACP – particularly from Black Republicans — for their “Tea Party resolution” of 2010. Where was that indignation regarding what can be viewed in this video? Click here.

4. Donald “unchecked ego” Trump inflames birther fiasco, media assists (April 2011). The mouth of Donald Trump is a powerful thing when joined with a 24-hour cable news cycle desperate for viewers. That news organizations invited Trump on the air unchallenged with zero proof of what he was saying speaks volumes on the state of journalism. That Trump was completely comfortable demanding that a U.S. President “show him his papers” displays a superiority complex that exists among those who can’t accept someone they view as “lesser” in a position of power over them.

4. Deadbeat dad and probable one-termer thinks his presence before the President actually matters and needs to tell everyone (Sept 2011). The disrespect isn’t that probable one term Congressman Joe Walsh (R-IL) wouldn’t attend the President’s Sept. 8 speech. The disrespect is that Rep. Walsh actually believed that everyone knowing he wasn’t attending was important. That he needed to announce he would not attend on national television, as if anyone cared, was yet another delusional superiority episode. That proudly showing public disrespect towards the President is a winning strategy in some political circles reveals a lot.

5. Newt Gingrich’s “Kenyan anti-colonial behavior” comment (Sept 2010). Even Washington Post columnist and conservative thinker George Will slammed this attempt to define the President as “foreign.” Never mind the facts: President Obama wasn’t reared by his father in Kenya with whom he spent only a month of his 50 years on this earth. The strategy to define the President as a “foreign” or “alien” being was started by Sarah Palin in 2008.

6. One of the underlying premises of disrespect towards the President is that he can be ordered around and dictated to like he’s Tipi the laundry boy. The presumption that a U.S. President can be ordered around is a new phenomenon that appears to have gotten underway around January 2009. From big mouth Congressmen to millionaires with nothing to do, you name it — they all inherently believe they can order President Obama around. At least Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is an actual leader of something. Regardless, read this and ask yourself if you think this would have happened to Presidents Bush, Reagan or Clinton.

7. Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer puts her finger in the President’s face (January 2012). The photo speaks for itself. Of course there are strong political disagreements between President Obama and Gov. Brewer. But is it just possible there was a better time and place for this conversation? Brewer said she felt “a little threatened” by President Obama. Please.

8. GOP House, prompted by Tea Party — refuses to raise debt ceiling (Aug 2011). Sounds like this was just hardball politics right? Let’s review the facts: The debt ceiling had been raised 69 times since 1962 without incident. Seven times during Bush II and 18 times during Reagan. Suddenly, with President Obama, a shiny new precedent is set with regard to raising the debt ceiling. Another never before seen incident is born.

9. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) Publicly Announces His Top Political Priority (Dec 2010). McConnell wants the President out of office? No news there, but, wait, there’s more to it. “Our top political priority over the next two years should be to deny President Obama a second term,” Sen. McConnell told the Heritage Foundation. Of course the Senate Republican Leader doesn’t want the President to be re-elected. But what’s with the public announcement? In July 2010 McConnell acknowledged his single most important political goal: President Obama being a one-term President. Again: In public and on national television.

10. Speaker Boehner refuses speech date request (September 2011). No it is not the end of the world. Of course, the White House intentionally wanted to step on a GOP debate that same night. But, this is yet another first in American history. Once again, no one can find another instance where a President of the United States requested a date to address Congress and was refused.

You guys wrote the book in disrespecting the opposing president and now you are sitting there pointing fingers??? You really should get a life...
God, how soon we forget how your own conservatives... (show quote)

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Feb 4, 2018 06:55:10   #
Mom8052 Loc: Lost in the mountains of New Mexico
 
SilentGeneration wrote:
Isn't the same true of Republicans? Their leaders are the Koch brothers.


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They may place their bets on who might win, but know the Koch brothers don't go stark raving madd if the don't get their way. The Koch brothers regroup behind a better choice.

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Feb 4, 2018 07:02:04   #
Mom8052 Loc: Lost in the mountains of New Mexico
 
SilentGeneration wrote:
I'd rather deal with real people than with labels. I asked the question because I remember reading a news story during the debate over the recent tax reform bill that said the Koch brothers were pressuring Congress to pass the tax reforms they wanted. Has Congress sold out to financial interests? Who do they really work for? It doesn't seem to be us.


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Have to ask that same question about the Dems! If you can provide proof of that News story, then show it. Lots of people have their fingers in the pie, but not one person - left or right have pulled out the plum. Show the link to your proof.

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